PenguinPablo

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  1. 20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Dude. What the fuck am I reading?

    No, that's not mind control.

    You guys still don't understand what a cult is after dozens of documentaries, videos, books, and things I shared.

    Constantly implying that I run a cult is disrespectful. It makes me not even want to teach you anything.

    By watering down what a cult is you are actually helping real cults.

    The boy who cried wolf.

    "Who knows what a wolf is? Maybe this rabbit is a wolf? Who can say? After all, it has 4 legs and fur, just like a wolf! Wolf! Wolf! Wolfffff!"

    If this was ever cult, it certainly isn't one now. Just a bunch of people chatting. In fact so many people I see making threads challenging Leo and doing there own personal investigation. I don't really see people taking things at face value but rather trying to sort Life out for themselves. 

     


  2. I experienced so much of this in my 20s. 

    Tbh not committing hard to a decently stable path made my life 100x worse.

    I tried doing a lot of the sales stuff but I just don't have the personality for it and morally was nearly impossible to manipulate people non stop.

    But it did make me less afraid of knocking on doors and starting conversations. While those sales jobs were low leverage and 99.99% of the time resulted in instant rejection, I can easily tolerate that ambiguity in a more calculated way without burning myself out. Getting a few NOs here and there is worth it if sometimes it results into opportunities.

    Anyway, wasting my 20s jumping around from different degree programs, from engineering to psychology to computer science, was a big waste of time. Job market changed a lot BUT at the end of the day I can't predict everything. 

    I made some bets and they didn't pan out the way I thought. Partially because I didn't know myself well enough. Partly because I had this sort spiriitual mumbo jumbo, law of attraction wishful thinking that it would all work out some way.

    But it doesn't. 

    Instead I found myself physically depleted, unloading boxes out of trailers at a warehouse on a graveyard schedule only making $300 USD a week and a broken circadian rhythm.

    And a bunch of other crappy jobs including janitor which was actually the easiest and chillest. Regret leaving that job as it gave me a lot of free time and was not physically spent after work like at the warehouses. But I was certainly embarrassed but it beats doing back breaking warehouse work.

    I changed the strategy. Now I am purely as practical as strategic as hell. I think there is an element of letting things work themselves out but I think let my mind wander too much in my 20s. 

    Now I try to be meticulous and rational about income goals and making sure whatever career I do now and whatever I do in the future meets certain criteria rather than just my naivete and optimism. Because this is my future on the line and I don't want 10 more years of whatever the fuck my 20s was doing bullshit jobs that were soul-crushing and wasted time being paycheck to paycheck. 

    I wish I'd realize this in my 20s. I wouldn't have wasted time exploring or "trying" to find myself at the expense of my future. Good luck finding yourself. I'm still trying and not sure I will ever get there LOL.

    The reality is I didn't get a second chance after my 20s and now I have to work hard to dig myself out of the hole I didn't realize I was digging.

    Financial aid in my 20s and a couple small subsidized loans would've covered it all.

    Anyway, once you have that financial foundation, you can easily build up the rest of your life tbh. 

    Just my opinion.

    And this is just one perspective among many other. It’s reflects where I am currently at. How I’m choosing to respond to current conditions based upon my reflection on the last 12 years or so. My adult life essentially and the corrections I feel would correct and mitigate previous mistakes


  3. 14 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

    kriya yoga is too good , God realization is better. If you wanna have an obe just smoke some dmt.

    Nice I’ve been into gateway and breath work lately. 
     

    I did Kriya a bit but lacked the discipline to do it. My kechari mudra is still decent. Actually my copy of Kriya Yoga exposed is arriving this afternoon in the mail.


  4. I'll be honest... Thus far I have not been able to do out of body experiences (OBE). But from what I can gather the insights people develop from OBE and God realizations show a lot of similarities.

    For instance, the idea that the world we live in is a dream / illusion. 

    I'm curious for those that have had better luck having OBEs how it compares to God realization. Is it necessary to be able to do it. I find the idea very interesting and I sometimes get the feeling that God realization might be a conceptual cope at times -- particularly if you are not able to even leave your body OBE style.

    I know there are people in this community that are able to do it. I myself have never really had hallucinations or altered states that lead to a fundamentally different experience of reality -- not visually anyway. Like yes, there are deep insights but it remains mostly within the realm of my own psychological experience -- I think for 5MeO users it is similar.


  5. Marriage. Having kids. Heterosexuality. Homophobia. Working a job. Entrepreneurship. Family comes first mentality. Fossil fuels. Tattoos. Working in tech. Being a human in society. Using cross walks. Stop signs. Stop lights. Trash cans. Following directions all the time. Social scripts.


  6. @Ramasta9 Dem rare stage turquoise humans. How does one even shift into such levels of understanding and personal development. Feels antithetical to anything western society offers — even fringe consciousness writers like Peter Ralston. Not sure when I’ll have a chance to look for someone like that in Bali but hopeful there’s people like that closer to the US in Mexico.


  7. 9 hours ago, No1Here2c said:

    Must be both freeing and frightening to put one's own thoughts & emotions on the line. It feels to go deeper, as if the entirety of one's being is being placed at risk of sudden dispersal or destruction

    It's the only way forward imo. 

    Anything else and you are short changing yourself. 

    Unless you prefer being a corporate drone. Selling yourself out in a myriad of ways. 

    But its painful...

    Well, it's honest.


  8. @No1Here2c

    For me this type of dialogue is partly diagnostic, trying to sort out my life.

    But it’s also deeply intellectually stimulating. I don’t think there are many places on this planet where you can have this level of dialogue. Just trying to reach a deeper understanding of things/everything and yes that makes dealing with people who lack any philosophical or existential curiosity tiresome — especially if they’re bringing only their BS to the table. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely appreciate other forms of expression — other polarities. Things I “lack”

    I think ideally, we should be trying to invalidate our understanding. Invalidate Leo. Constantly. Recursively. Throw out the trash. Clear out the cache. 


  9. 5 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

    Ask yourself a question: how do you know that you are dreaming the reality? If it were the case, why are you creating this really and not another? There must be a reason. This reason would be a limit, because it would limit the other possibilities. Then the entire reality would be limited for a reason. 

    Even within new age circles there are explanations for why we limit ourselves. For “learning” and “growth” purposes supposedly. The idea being that if we remembered and had omniscience, we would not have the opportunity to stumble and learn. The forgetting and amnesia is a feature of the human experience. Whether or not all the weird spiritual metaphysics and so on and so forth, past lives etc… is real or not isn’t very helpful with your life right fucking now. I don’t say that experientially but it’s just rational and obvious. The best way to solve most problems is directly, not with some convoluted abstract metaphysical system — spiritual bypass.
     

    Not sure I would wish this flavor of neurodivergence on anybody. Idk if it’s just thought forms or what it is. Maybe I just need to break them more thoroughly.  Don’t get me wrong I go through states of infinite potential — where anything feels possible… damn I love caffeine! Whether or not you are “God” doesn’t necessarily change the mechanics of life. Life is humbling in that way so even amidst profound realizations or “delusions” if you’d prefer… you cannot argue with reality. 
     

    At the end of the day we’re all taking a stance as we move through this world. Some people become religious fanatics. Some guys become Andrew Tate clones and believe all the misogynistic and opportunistic mentality. And it “works” for a lot of those people I suppose. I mean it doesn’t but I haven’t met very many people where I could say that everything they embody, say and do has no faults. 
     

    I mean it’s not like pantheism is unique to raging narcissists or psychotic people. It’s an old idea in major religions like Hinduism.  It’s also an experiential realization I came to soberly and on weed. Didn’t really know what Leo was talking about until I experienced it.


  10. I mean all things considered it could be a million times worse. 

    I’m not necessarily even complaining.

    But like why have I imagined so many asshats — that basically have infinite resources relative to any other human including myself? 

    and why have I made myself so hyper conscious… always been extremely self reflective… sensitive… existential… and I guess reaching such high degrees of consciousness is a byproduct because “compound interest” in these domains I suppose is the only explanation. You can’t really turn it off. There’s always a degree of it and it gets wider and wider even if incrementally — over the course of years it grows a lot so even if you fall asleep, the opening is kinda loosened permanently so to speak like a woman that’s given childbirth. Childish and sexist joke, I know…. Hopefully we can move past that or perhaps it helps illustrate my point, albeit it was crude and inaccurate.

    Anyway, it’s interesting to be so hyper conscious and yet not really have any of your ducks in a row in waking life. Money wise. Friendships and relationships. Like am I retarded? To some extent it definitely shows the black pill nature of “money success”. You gotta go all in if your parents aren’t rich and not deviate until you get some runway. Artistic vision and idealistic perspectives crumble under the capitalistic battlefield of survival. Such naivety. Lesson learned I suppose. I’m also kinda absent minded and all over the place so it’s not just being poor that led me here, although it is “a” factor. 

    Relationships, dating, and hell friendships… Truthfully I have no sense on why I struggle with that’s basically nonexistent for me.

    Anyway, just got a bit introspective and wanted to write out some reflections.


  11. I admire Mystery a lot. Think he is very intelligent for pioneering so much of the dating stuff but his model is overly cerebral and I think that hurts most men. 

    Owen's approach is more intuitive and flow based. But you're right it's not really formalized or articulated in a structured manner. It's kinda like a bunch of rambling essays that you need to somehow fit together. It's lack of cohesion is a glaring weakness.


  12. On 4/28/2026 at 0:22 AM, LordFall said:

    You can meditate and cause cessation in yourself to stop suffering(if you're rich enough to be able to afford it or live in abject poverty and somehow survive)

    You can live in a cave and forget about the whole human song and dance. Don't necessarily need to be rich. I saw in a documentary some hippy guy that lived in cave near Ibiza and he would bring girls "home" from the raves and parties and a lot of them were into the whole hippy, recluse thing. He was pretty young though and good looking but a proper bum as well. 

    Idk I think if we try to play life the conventional way we will invariably struggle a lot. It is by design as people with more resources and power benefit from using lower class people as batteries to sustain their own luxurious lives.


  13. Because extroverts talk so damned much, a timid introvert views it as strength.

    This is part of the reason many quiet types marry the brash loud mouths.

    But the reality is many of these incessant speakers have no emotional depth nor the ability to deeply connect with others. 

    Like Leo said just a bunch of yapping because they think all of the shit coming out of their mouth is gold.

    Zero self awareness. 

    Rant over. 

    I APOLOGIZE to any of the amazing extroverts out there. 


  14. 2 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

     

    I've always found this forum to be a good place where I feel confident asking for guidance.

    Thanks to all of you guys, It is much clearer to me 

    If your intuition is that your personal understanding will evolve further independently you're likely correct. 

    But we still need each other for basic life stuff, human things, etc... Other humans can be quite skillful at that -- and point us in the right direction. 

    Don't underestimate the pragmaticism of non spiritual folk. Could come in handy.