2.jpg.f5539c3a092ec2db895054967ccdb54a.jpg)
LordFall
Member-
Content count
2,106 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Posts posted by LordFall
-
-
1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:I added you
I also though about posting things on instagram for the reasons you say, but never had a specific idea about what to do.
Photography is cool.
Dope followed you. Yes IG is pretty good with recommending similar followers.
I would say at the start don't overthink it too much. Try to make one post each day until you have 18 posts(3 post per line and grid is about 9 posts so 2 full grids). Ideally a few reels if you can work yourself up to it but if they're just pictures, stories and carrousels for now that's fine. You can always archive posts that you don't like or that don't perform according to your goals later down the line.
Now get into the habit of adding everyone you meet or know on Instagram. It's more powerful than getting their phone numbers and they will become the start of your own online community. Some girls I talked to 5 years ago still watch my Instagram stories sometime.
If you don't know that many people go to meetup events in your city related to activities you care about then add them on Instagram and ask if they're part of any cool group chats, bonus points if they're local chats.
That's basically Instagram 101
102 would be figuring out a vertical that you wanna make content in and making reels a few times a week so you get new people to follow you that you haven't met in real life. Then creating your own group chats.
Instagram is about creation, connecting and consuming. Use the consumption aspect to find what you would like to do/create. People get stuck on mindless consumption but if you make it mindful then its quite powerful. Open an obsidian and save any reel that appeals to you. If they're hot girls that you wanna date add it to your girl bucketlist page. If it's a group of guys going on vacation in Monaco on a super yatcht add it to your travel bucketlist. If it's someone doing something funny that you could recreate, save it to your video ideas folder.
The key lesson is what one person can do, another one can as well. Baring very specific niches like getting into a tight industry like the NBA basically anything else you can achieve within a few years. I used the monaco example because I wanna sail accross the mediterean myself on a big superyacht with a bunch of girls on it. I've done it in Toronto but not on a superyacht yet and I wanna rent it for a few weeks and stay/work on it. It's been on my bucketlist for 3 years now I think, getting close should be able to do it by 2028 hopefully.
-
13 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:@LordFallYour instagram account is cool
Appreciate it bro, feel free to follow me I'll follow you back. Instagram is a great way to build community, gain status and you can eventually use it as a dating app. Highly recommend everyone use social media as an extension of their dating strategy.
5 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:The funny other side of the coin on this post?
As a chick - some guys actually use body count as a negative metric. "Women having a high body count devalues her."
Yes a lot of men are put off by high agency women, it's easier if a woman is docile and lacks real world experience. They also worry about women that use sex to avoid emotions so if they get into a fight the guys fear that they'll go fuck an ex or some random dude(it does happen for sure) but I mean it can equally be true that a woman that has had a decent amount of partners will appreciate your unique qualities more. I've also heard that virgins can take you for granted since you've all they've experience of the male species so I think it's a pretty silly ideology.
3 hours ago, Valach said:That was me for a long time so I can relate. My experience in general is that a lot of what pickup/self-development does is that it takes a bunch of guys who are anxiously attached and makes them into avoidants. Underlying emotion is still a fear. So what are we affraid of?
I mean yes. It's hard to find the balance for that for sure. Noone is pure hedonist and noone is pure non-hedonist. Where is the healthy line? I don't know personally. But you can refine your "pleasures" to be more soothing. In the past I might find a lot of pleasure in going to a party, drinking some alcohol and hooking up with someone. Now it's more like going with a close friend of mine for a ginger tea and being present with each other. Both are pleasures and in a way hedonistic but they are way different. There is not as much "high" in the second one and it's way more filling if it makes sense. But it took me long time to develop the connection to my body to judge correctly what is actually satiating to me internally and what is not.
That is sort of what pushed me away from the pickup, party lifestyle etc. It's not that I considered the lifestyle to be inherently wrong. It's more about the more I was becoming aware of my inner child and how different things actually impact me the more I could clearly see that this is just a way to distract myself. And I could also clearly see in other taking part in this that they are not content and happy either. Just living on that high high.
Yes attachment theory is important to understand otherwise you just replicate unhelpful dynamics over and over again. You can be secure in your attachment and still enjoy seduction and romance, perhaps it'll lead you more down the polyamory side though or full monogamy for those that enjoy that.
-
6 hours ago, Valach said:So anyone who does not place high value on sex is just not sexually comfortable for you? Can't you see how reductionist you are in all your arguments?
I think that if you approach your pickup journey in a traditional cold approach way instead of making female friends and an overall social circle that aligns with your goals and values then it's easy for me to see how that would lead to a lack of fulfillment. It's normal to take a break from dating and sex to focus on other goals, I've done that myself.
5 hours ago, WonderSeeker said:I appreciate the creative ways in which you go about your business. Sounds like you have a fun and rewarding system going there as far as purpose and relationships go.
Nevertheless, @Natasha Tori Maru is right when she says:
Reason being, just because you talk about all of this in a highly systemized, elegant, nuanced way doesn't automatically make it "Tier II." To think so is to completely misunderstand what Tier II, is full stop.
I mean dude, who needs to say this:
Glad you're enjoying, but nobody asked. How does this relate to the thread, except proving @Valach's low consciousness point...
I think you're perhaps spiritually bypassing. It's easy to find think that sex is a low consciousness activity but it doesn't have to be so. Dating and sex can lead to greater intimacy and empathy which can then lead you to connect with human beings overall and thus be a powerful leader that then leads back towards community and business. Tier 2 has to do with holism and systems thinking. If you're gonna challenge me on that point feel free to elaborate on your understanding of Stage yellow and beyond and how it conflicts with what I've said.
Bounding with your fellow human beings and maximizing reality is an extremely high value thing to do. Most people engage in low value coping based relationships that don't serve their deeper goals though so the are a similar activity conducted in a lower consciousness way. It's easy to conflict the two but they are very different.
An easy litmus test is there are people you can hangout with that the more you hangout with them the more chaotic and dysfunctional your life will be. People that chase hedonism and have an alcohol addiction are an easy example. If you hangout with them 100 days in a row your life will literally collapse to the point of losing your job, going homeless, going to jail, etc.
There are others that if you hangout with them for 100 days in a row you will be very fulfilled and happy. Intentional communities, entrepreneurship minded people, people that value health and fitness, etc.
You can separate this from dating and sex but they can be very connected if you build your life intentionally around pursuits that you value and people that embody that. Which is the difference between stage orange vs stage yellow pickup.
-
Having sex with escorts is alright, your own girlfriend is way better though. Then you can cuddle also which in some ways is better than sex. I will try it with two girlfriends and report back.
It's also fun to fuck in different place its a different feeling each time. The woods feel very primal even if it's not comfortable.
-
12 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:Which one of his points do you think I misunderstood?
If someone is not comfortable with sexuality and doesn't wish to get over that discomfort and thus raise their bodycount then that's their life I don't really care. For me sexuality is thrilling, fulfilling and an exciting adventure so I have pursued plenty of partners in the past and plan to pursue many other sexual connections. Increasing bodycount is just a consequence of that, it's not really the concept that's worth getting stuck over.
I'm not really into one night stands so for me building a polycule is the next logical step in my life. I aim to date a few bisexual women and travel the world with them and sleep with women all around the world.
I'm also bisexual myself so perhaps that's another key to this discussion, I'm more comfortable in sexuality than most people. I'm just starting to explore that side of life so far it's been a good time!
-
21 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:I'll say that i have light autism. And i feel that i should've approached the lady just for the first failure since i don't regularly do this but i'm willing to learn and you did provide a good resource But....nothing beats experience, i can read stuff and advice all day long, eventually i'm going to have to learn my own methods through trial and error.
Absolutely. Where do you live? If you live in a mid sized or big city you should try that newbie challenge I linked and go out almost everyday to talk to new women and in a few months you won't recognize the social skills you now possess.
-
Because I'm injecting consciousness and development in the discussion which is obviously lacking. Leo mostly did pickup from that solely cold approach stand point and he seems to have hit a wall in the type of women that he managed to integrate into his life. He should also come at it from a more stage yellow integral perspective and I believe he will have much more success.
I agree that deep relationships are key which is why I find that the social circle model much way better in achieving fulfillment in your relationships, romantic and otherwise. I'm getting my long term friends to follow this and come to my events as well. There was a lot of resistance at the start but they seem to be enjoying it now and helping me scale them in an interdependent way which is great. A friend of mine helped me on a podcast I did in Calgary and another hosted an investment event with me and before I moved cities we started going out again regularly which was a lot of fun and pushed my own boundaries in the process.
I actually am not really a cold approach guy and there's still a lot of development I find doing it. Part of it is self-esteem and proving to myself that I am worthy of talking to the hottest women I find and they seem to be more and more into me the further in my journey I get so it's quite healing and gratifying to pursue.
-
9 hours ago, Monster Energy said:One of us is wrong.
It’s probably not me.
Your position is obviously quite shallow. Feel free to input your own thread into an LLM and I'm sure it'll point out the shortcomings in your viewpoint. I'm not a psychologist but usually when someone projects that everyone else must have shallow and toxic relationships that's more a reflection of their own life than a truthful view of reality.
Obviously there's some truth in what you said but half-truths are some of the most dangerous generalizations you can make.
-
Yes there is something wrong in the way you do pickup and that's why you're not fulfilled with it. That's my claim and I've explained my reasoning behind it. You seem have a dense ego with how you refuse to admit your shortcomings and stick to your position even when presented with evidence that invalidates it so I don't think you're very coachable which is another reason why you're stuck in your journey.
Yes I've followed Leo since he posted that rant against PUA videos 10 years ago which is why my game was built with depth to avoid the pitfalls he pointed out in it. I'm thankful to him for that, it was a great video.
If you find meaning and fulfillment in your life outside of relationships then more power to you. Feel free to share what's worked for you since you gave them up.
-
4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:I think you are assuming about @Valach.
From his history he has been quite successful.
It's possible others have been through similar experience to yourself and come out with totally different thoughts and conclusions. This is the same mechanism behind some people experiencing bad circumstances and one becoming traumatised, and another person, not.
Not at all. He admitted himself that his form of pickup was spam approaching women on the street. This is is a low form of pickup and seduction. I'm not surprised it lead him to not find fulfilment or satisfaction in it. He literally projected on me that everyone does stage orange pickup since he did it.
I've already explained last page what is a better way to go about it. What I described is like stage yellow game as it is based on holism and not quick sex.
4 hours ago, WonderSeeker said:I think this is sound advice.
Maybe I'm going about it wrong but I haven't met a lot of women who could be this. Maybe 1-2 in my life so far.
And of course with the one I was seeing for a short time, we both ended up moving countries at the same time. So I haven't gotten to find out what sexual and personal co-evolution is like yet.
The best way to think of it is viewing your dating life and social circle as an extension of another and looking at it more in terms of farming than hunting. Meaning that you're basically creating a fertile oasis for everyone to benefit and then finding the women that are particularly into you from there and dating one or many of them depending on what you're into.
For example I'm in the creative industry and host photoshoots with models, photographers, content creators, influencers, etc. A lot of attractive women in that industry obviously. I've hosted events now in Toronto, Calgary and Kelowna around it. I'll be doing it over the summer in Montreal. I own accounts and group chats in each city around it now with hundreds of people in them. I help the women(and the men as well) with their creative goals and give them content help and give them tips on finding sponsors and monetizing their brand.
https://www.instagram.com/creatives_toronto - This is one of my accounts for example
You see how this is much more holistic than just cold approaching women on the street? I'm a logical guy so I spend my time thinking about business, marketing, finance, etc. So might as well share that knowledge with other people that usually don't find reading books about those topics interesting. I have spent the last 4 years hosting events around it. They're quite fun and it's fulfilling for me to learn how to make cooler and bigger events and travel to different cities to do so. I hosted a fashion show in Calgary last year for example.
If you go with this strategy you must utilise the sowing vs reaping principle meaning that you provide people in your community/social circle genuine value and good times and don't just use it as a cheap ploy to get laid. I used to hangout with club promoters and dating coaches a lot in Toronto and this is my own version of this funnel. I've gotten laid many times from social circle game, it's a much funner way to date than just cold approach or online dating as you're also friends with the women you date and over time you get access to way more attractive women than you would just being a random guy on the street like it seems Valach was saying he burnt out doing.
Every man has different interests and skillsets and thus their setup will look different but for me the creative industry makes a lot of sense and is quite fun to be around.
I talk about it more in this thread if you guys are curious
-
You can do pickup from any stage from purple to turquoise. If you do it from stage orange that's on you. Do not project your lack of success unto others, it's the furthest thing from the truth my friend.
-
A lot of pickup teachers have unhealed emotional issues, in that situation it's quite hard to find fulfilment but it's not too far away. A bridge that's 80% built is 100% useless but it's not that far off from working as intended. Introspection on true desires and not societal expectations pushed on us is mandatory but once you do that I'd say for most guys getting some cool women into their life is gonna take care of a lot of their issues. Especially in the format that I've outlined above.
I have worked with clients to help them build this out for themselves in different cities across Canada. I don't do it widely yet but this is when I met Mystery in Toronto through one of my clients that hired him as well.
-
8 minutes ago, Valach said:That's the thing. It is not. Dating or sex or even relationships (especially if you view them as something to master) are deeply unfulfilling. I have seen plenty of man do very well and still be deeply unhappy (just as happened to me).
I'm sorry you had an unfulfilling time with your dating journey. My best advice would be to combine it with your overall life purpose as well as social circle. When you have women that help you reach your goals and you help them reach theirs instead of just prowling the streets for a vagina to fuck; the game changes completely.
Women are your comrades in reality and they are also looking for great adventures to embark on and have to face the difficulties of the marketplace and business world. If you're the man to solve that for them I guarantee you that fulfillment will be the least of your worries.
-
1 hour ago, Valach said:Personally I have never met a person whom I would consider mature and conscious who prioritized sex and slept around a lot. Simply does not happen too much in my experience.
I think it's extremely rare for someone to have truly mastered dating and intimacy and to have built a phenomenal dating life. It happens but it's easily less than 10% of people.
It's a shame because it's one of if not the the sweetest aspects of reality.
-
59 minutes ago, Hojo said:@LordFall You are missing the most feminine. Letting one woman dominate your being. Surrendering to the woman.
God make woman a thing for a man to fall in love with and give himself to.
There is nothing else man will give himself too. And when he does something in reality, its for a woman.
When man give himself to woman he will realize that it cannot fill his void. Only God can do that.
The most desirable thing beyond food and water is woman. You find the 3rd most desirable thing cannot fill you.
When man see woman will not fill him he will see food and water wont either and then he will give up and see God.
The woman give colour to mans life when he gets full colour and it leaves his life is barren and black and white.
You make plan to sleep with 100 woman because you are scared of that.
If you make a plan to sleep with 100 woman you can always just go get another one. There is never the one. You wont have to fully give yourself to someone. Which is a spiritual treat that you dont want to miss. Its literally the reason you were born as a man.
I disagree I think you're generalizing and projecting but if it works for you then more power to you.
26 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:Yea I took a look at your insta and it seems you all are genuinely having fun, it’s not giving those super shallow Dan bilzerian kind of vibes (just my spontaneous thought). So yea there’s natural variation in humans, so there will be some people like you describe, that feel it’s the life path for them right now. It doesn’t sound super rigid for you, so that also suggests it’s more of a natural inclination. So that’s good
You seem you respect those women, so that’s completely different than those guys that get with lots of women but they resent them deep down and are sexist
Thanks you yeah the last few years I have been going hard on social circle events and it's starting to scale and go the way I want it; it's been a good time. No need to resent women, I love them. The more of them you have in your life the happier you'll be.
-
I think you have to be careful with sweeping generalizations. Some women operate in scarcity and just give two handed compliments and live in competition. Some others are happy for their friends doing well and just want to support other women and perhaps humans in general.
I don't think it's healthy to be jaded about human nature. It doesn't make you a loser to believe in the goodness in people. Quite the opposite as long as it's not blind naivety.
-
There are millions of beautiful women in this world. I can't experience them all but a hundred should be a good start into really diving into the feminine. Most men experience not even 5% of what women have to offer. I thank God I learned seduction and social skills to the point where I can mingle with women in a way that my teenage self would only have dreamed of.
-
12 hours ago, Hojo said:@LordFall Making a plan to have sex with 100 woman is putting yourself in a box.
'
if she's the love of my life she'll be bisexual and we can meet even more incredible women together.
It seems that you've put yourself in a box my friend '
Thats projection.
Me being in a box because I didnt make a plan to sleep with 100 woman is a very strange thought process my friend.
I said the box point because you seem to have these ideas and apply them universally. I've simply shared what makes sense to me and what makes me happy. Self-awareness is all I'm preaching, if you know yourself and what works for you as well then more power to you.
9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:Well I thought there was something about that goal of sleeping with certain large number of women that seems disconnected from the present, as if you’re living in some mental timeline more so than the present. Also about the FOMO thing, those two connect. Also about knowing, how you really know you want that many women? Why would a new woman give you a richer experience than deepening what you have with this one woman you are seeing now already? Those are the thoughts I kinda had but he also seemed to point out some of them somehow .
But then maybe there is small minority of people that are genuinely super social and outwardly sexual , it’s genuinely enriching for their mind to be sleeping with more and more people for a while. So maybe what I said doesn’t really apply to them
Well it's the path I've put myself on and it's worked out well so far so I'll keep on it was my only point. It could end up being 200 women or a bit less than 100, it's not a hard goal number. More a path towards more sensuality and adventure.
-
4 minutes ago, Valach said:Okay, I missed that comment, I was more responding to your general advice. I personally do not have much experience with dealing with people on the spectrum but I am not sure mass approaching is the way - The guys that were on the spectrum in the PUA community would still really struggle after thousands of approaches - but I am not sure there is easy cure for this.
I am also not saying you should be working on business or fitness to get woman.Breaking an approach anxiety is actually quite easy. That is the easiest part in becoming good with woman.
Depends on how heavily on the spectrum but light autism can definitely become phenomenal at seduction with a lot of exposure and good coaching. If you just hammer out hundreds of approaches with no thought behind it like you said you did then of course you're not gonna make much progress but with the right strategy you can have a dreamlike dating life for sure.
You don't think being in shape and having a good financial situation is important for a high quality dating life?
-
Did you read the post? He literally said he's on the spectrum and doesn't know how to approach women. Working on your business and fitness is phenomenal overall advice but in that specific case I think progressive desensitization is the correct recommendation.
Also where did I say to approach meh women? If he's in a big city he can easily find multiple attractive women a day to talk to, just probably not his personal perfect 10 each day but for sure overall social exposure will help with that as well.
-
7 minutes ago, Valach said:This is not a good take. It showcasts a lack of true self esteem. Not to mention you are not being authentic when you approach woman you are not really interested in.
Perhaps you're projecting your own lack of self-esteem here by thinking you're not worthy of talking to women. Women love being chatted up as long as you're pleasant about it. You don't always have to go super direct you can just comment on something happening in the environment or give them a genuine compliment.
I recommend especially following approach challenge for OP since he has some autism and it'll help it be more natural.
-
I think you could totally form relationships from clubs and bars but the main issue is that a lot of the people there are looking more for fun than growth and shared journey but that's not universally the case. The relationships I've had usually form from social circle. I had one girlfriend I found from volunteering at a comic expo. I think having mutual goals with your partners is a great start so anything related to your career and business is a good move. I run creative groups and a lot of women in there have similar goals to me. If you're into business then business/crypto/finance events have a lot of attractive women aged 25-35 and the single ones would be better partners than club girls I assume.
One big unlock in terms of the hobby groups is to host them yourself instead of just going to other peoples. Then you learn community building and are more attractive as the group leader. Don't be a creepy guy just looking to get laid in that instance but if it's a meaningful hobby that anyway you're gonna spend years partaking in then it makes a lot of sense.
-
The answer is to regularly approach and it becomes more natural. You could've indeed just said hey I had to say you're really attractive, hows the day? You don't really have to overthink the context at the start of your game journey, if you try to go along with the jacket story or offering her your milkshake that's more likely to be more awkward than anything else. If you're autistic I would follow a straight progression curve like a newbie challenge and progressively desensitize yourself and you'll likely pick it up quite quickly with pattern recognition.
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/newbie-assignment.34/
IMO the most important thing is to do a lot of approaches and get a lot of experience because if you try to only approach the girls you really like once in a while you'll probably fumble the bag but when you have momentum you build charisma quite reliably.
-
9 hours ago, Jirh said:Have you, really? I'm having a hard time digesting this thought.
You say "incredible women" and then move on to the next dozen, as if nothing happened. That doesn't add up.
Incredible people are rare, and you're claiming to have met like half a dozen already. And you're still looking for more. What are you looking for exactly? If you don't mind me asking.
I think you're exaggerating about the quality of the women you've met, or maybe they were truly incredible and way out of your league that you couldn't keep them around, so you accepted the numbers game as a consolation prize.
For me it felt like I had incredible times with these women and we weren't compatible enough aspects to decide to stay together long term. Doesn't mean that they weren't incredible women and I'm glad I met them and through that temporary love that we shared it fuelled me to want to explore sexuality and dating even more.
I think that a lot of people that date just one or a few people never really experience the opposite sex, just a little slice of it through that person or not even that person since unless you really introspect and master your psychology you're just mostly operating on your shadow and subconscious. Not to say that some low partner count monogamous couple aren't fulfilled but one I haven't met many if any and two a lot of the relationships I see and hear about clearly show just pathology and scarcity played out in real time.
To pedestalize that as the epitome of human romantic fulfillment is silly to me.
9 hours ago, Hojo said:@LordFall Because you have no idea what is going to happen. The plan isnt a plan it assumes that someone is a resource to farm.
Its like making a plan that you are going to find 100 pumpkins and stick your dick in them.
Making a plan to be in an open relationship is fine, if things happen and you see people and are interested go for it. But to plan to sleep with a specific number of people different.
I plan to sleep with 100 woman.
With who? You are planning on sleeping with 100 human woman fuck machine. With no one in it. Its deranged.
You cant have a plan to gather experiences or go places but those are static. The ghost in the machine matters.
I know myself quite well at this point in life. I've been dating and learning about human relationships for 12 years now. My life journey has barely started since my business is starting to take off and I plan on being a digital nomad and travelling the world for the next few years and having incredible experiences with women from countries all over the world. I could for sure meet the most amazing woman I've ever met next week in a festival in Montreal before I ever embark on this journey but I will just ask her to join me and if she's the love of my life she'll be bisexual and we can meet even more incredible women together.
It seems that you've put yourself in a box my friend and trying to apply this box to myself and dating as a whole. The world is literally infinite and so are the romantic and sexual experiences that you can have. I'd encourage you to go on Reddit and read through the polyamory subreddits and read people's journey in that world and you'll hopefully see that your current perspective is limited and not backed up by any data or research.
in Dating, Sexuality, Relationships, Family
Posted
This is your take after reading the way of the superior man? Have you read it or just read a summary and made up a conclusion about it? The book itself is quite great. Not foolproof but definitely higher quality than most of the masculinity discussion on the internet.