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LordFall
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57 minutes ago, Jirh said:The stay in the kitchen meme has been hard countered boys "When he has a social life, he forgot that his place is AT WORK"
The nap one is actually a common one I've heard. On my podcast we had a girl who literally said that's her ick in men when they take a nap lmao like girl we are conquering can we please chill for a few moments in the day
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32 minutes ago, enchanted said:The modern world has worse outcomes for marriage and the couples report being unhappier in modern marriages.
70% of our happiness is tied to our relationships yet the modern world leaves this part of our lives to chance and "feelings" of young inexperienced people. Why not take a lesson from traditional cultures and get the wisdom of the elders involved and the trial and error of thousands of years?
Leo as said similar too regarding the modern world being less happy.
https://youtu.be/kRMcimuuk0Q?si=S-NNUkqBLeMCe03V
^Great interview with Allen De Botton regarding this topic in Big Think
Worst outcomes sure because divorce is not tolerated much in Islamic and other religious communities, do you have statistics for reporting being unhappier in modern marriages?
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I think that's a false dichotomy.
Sure, a lot of gurus just meditate at home or sit in caves and don't do much and I'm sure are blissing out and happy. To me that's a very stagnant version of a human being and a low impact life. It's not very helpful to their community or the rest of humanity. Also in terms of logistic what are we talking about here? How is the rent getting paid and food? You mean having a low stress job that let's you have an easy life and not worry about much so you can chill at home and do nothing? You're seriously gonna pitch to us that this is a great life?
There is a very clear insight that starting from a baseline of internal fulfillment and not chasing satisfaction will lead to a more authentic life than just being a hamster in a wheel unconsciousy chaging stuff without understand why. Mimetic desire theory is a phenomena concept to understand here, basically most humans don't know what they want and will just default to chasing what other humans they look up to seem to be chasing. Keeping up with the joneses is one phrasing of it. Beyond that though with introspection you can connect to authentic goals and aspirations that you wish to achieve for yourself and others. I think you should be happy and then build a life purpose from that state.
It's all about self-awareness and knowing what you want though, to each person his own destiny is an open path.
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Go on Google doc and write your dream dating life on one page. Until you’re able to achieve it don’t settle for random chicks.
When you get decent at game all kinds of chicks wanna spend time with you; it’s not about what they want though it’s about what you want. Codependency is the death of thriving. You can also date multiple girls at the same time, nobody said you have to promise to be exclusive to every girl that likes you. Just don’t lie to them and be open about what you want, which is what you write on that google doc. For me it’s to be able to have 5 wives if I desire it so dating just one chick that’s into monogamy is not in my cards and I tell them upfront.
You will have a different vision of your perfect dating life but it’s the same process: having boundaries and not being a people pleaser.
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I'm a fan of pieces with true horological purity so I avoid anything Swiss or too standard. Currently rocking an ultra-rare, hand-molded Polymer Calibre 1998. The movement features an integrated zero-jewel escapement, zero VPH frequency, and a 100% in-house plastic chassis. The lug-to-lug wears a bit light, but the vintage patina on the dial speaks for itself.
Found it at the bottom of a Lucky Charms box I bought while shit faced day drinking, one of the other ones I was looking at talking to an authorized dealer didn't pan out so this one is my main piece at the moment.
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Can you share the type of results you've gotten from taking these programs and which ones in particular lead to specific breakthroughs in your life?
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1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:Btw, do you know why Vladimir stopped posting?
They faced scrutiny by the Toronto Star(local biggest news paper in the city) and Vice news for the hidden infield type of content and they spinned it as pressuring women to give their phone number instead of mutually enjoyed game.
2 hours ago, hundreth said:I don't like Todd V's style. He takes himself so seriously and is very rigid and boring IMO.
This was the one game video I saw years ago that basically unlocked me. Once I realized I can just have fun with it and not take it so seriously I did much better.
I need to try more stuff like that, it's actually hilarious and if you have a good life setup it makes you very charming. The let's go watch a movie at best buy one and the broke jew killed me lol
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2 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:Seems like you want to discuss this from an individual POV, as in, which lifestyle do you think is better, rather than from a societal/political point of view, considering we are in the societal/political section, it might make sense to focus on the latter.
The meat of the matter really, is that human secular societies (actualized.org is completely irrelevant in this instance, and always will be) are fundamentally unsustainable. Secularism is essentially a bullish bet on human individualism and technological progress, which are suppose to replace the void of killing a God/Gods. But if you let humans do whatever they want to do without any sort of cultural or religious pressure, what will happen is that humans will slowly make themselves extinct. And I don't see "stage green" having any answer to this issue whatsoever at all, in fact "stage green" society is impossible (and funny thing is, you can't actually prove me WRONG if you think otherwise lol). That is not to say that you should be in awe, or automatically subscribe to "stage blue" either, but "stage blue" is where the true sustainability of any civilization is at. And I mean, prove me wrong. You can't
You make some good meta points I think you're correct that specifically stage green is not a viable structure for a group to operate in long term. We are basically in the west already half living in a stage green society. That's what the whole DEI movement is based on. Feelings, inclusivity, reducing competition, etc. It's still split between orange and blue but there have been plenty of pure stage green organizations and groups that form in the form of hippie communes or intentional communities and they always fall apart because fundamentally stage green is anti logic due to its rejection of stage orange and thus throws the baby out with the bathwater with structures that work.
Communism is the best example where it's a purely untenable idea and stage red/blue leaders co-opt the philosophical frame work to create states with it like the USSR and Cuba and end up killing the idealists that originally championed those thoughts.
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I think the Mystery Method is actually sleeper op when it comes to night game. The way he merges sets leads to situational status and almost instant social proof and in venue social circle building. I went out with him one time to a fashion event, it was cool to see him in action.
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7 hours ago, Ramanujan said:all the greatest scientific inventions and breakthroughs are created by INTJs and INTPs
Being an INTP has its problems , but it has it pros too
most of the greatest scientists in history were INTPs
You're right I gotta give them props. I just mean for me personally it wouldn't produce the life I want to stay in an office for decades and eventually have a sick insight and 50 years after my death people finally get it. INTPs synthesize concepts much easier than other types so we usually can see the vision before it's possible as making it happen through the friction of the material world is a whole other issue.
4 hours ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:this is really insightful for me and made things click because I've switched careers 4 times and now work as a social media ghostwriter, which constantly requires research, insight, creativity... i didn't think before that the intellectual part is what's missing. until i tried ghostwriting. I always thought I'm not a writer or intellectual at all, and that I'm just someone who's curious about intellectual stuff.
4 hours ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:Being a content creator or create content in general either for you or for someone else is great way to monetize that in my experience.
Glad you resonated man. Content creation makes a lot of sense for an INTP(and anyone really) because it's not really a medium it's a tool that connects the whole human experience together in the most effective medium we've invented so far in history. It's truly fascinating and there are endless nuances you can lean from it and the ceiling is truly infinite.
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1 minute ago, Olaf said:@LordFall yes I already created a group of 24 people already in my country who I will game with regularly, I know you push this social circle thing, but we will see, I might do it. Anyways, I do noticed such a difference in approaching together versus alone. Huge fucking difference and you can bring eachother into state.
Sweet man, you're killing it. That's how I first started getting result, doing it with other guys that were ahead of me and I thought their results were insane and they were so much cooler than me and I learned from osmosis and ended up throwing some mind blowing events with some of them and creating some of the best memories of my entire life thus far. Excited for your journey, I think you're gonna enjoy it a lot!
Remember always wear protection.
Or don't, the global demographics are looking weak we need to pump those numbers up!
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100% bro. I know you said you don't like the idea of social circle game but I'll give you an easy way to use your recent free tour experience to start to scale and leverage your life.
Just make an instagram group chat with all the guys that you thought were cool from that event and start gaming with them regularly. That's your own inner circle now. Then organize an event together that you can each use to pitch to girls you cold approach. You're in Amsterdam right can you a group picnic by the canal with a big speaker and make a flyer for it in 2 mins on Gemini and in 2 weeks you guys host it on Sunday and 5 guys bring 5 girls each now you not only will probably get laid from that and possibly in a threesome since the ratio is so in your favor, you have become a local community leader and started an events brand for free.
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7 hours ago, Miguel1 said:Notice how all of your attitudes and framing of the whole conversation is:
- Miguel is wrong. He is stuck. He needs this and that to grow.
- You guys are right, and as a group, it is easier to be right together.
Everything I say or do is looked at through this filter. I am being overly praised for simple, normal honesty and vulnerability here (because it fits your frame). And overly criticized for anything that goes against your narrative.
All I ask for is total honesty and openess in relationships. How can this be so hard to grasp in such a forum?
What would a really conscious relationship look like to you? How would you go about building it, if there was zero or minimal manipulation at play?
It was the first time I personally saw that you took a criticism and talked about one of your flaws without getting defensive and spinning it around into flexing about some other random thing.
I don't particularly value group think, you're the one that made a post on vulnerability and then turned it into a PvP game against any opinion that criticized you and then you admitted that your MBTI types particularly enjoy social cohesion and dislike criticism so makes sense.
In my opinion your premise is invalid from the start. You're conflating Stage Green emotional dumping with higher conscious integration of the spiral. I didn't tell you to not be honest and vulnerable. I simply said that's one of the many bricks that makes a relationship work in my experience.
Labeling anything that calls to other aspects of a relationship you gotta provide to be attractive to a women as a man as "Stage Orange normie in denial" sounds to me like a defense mechanism to protect an unintegrated ideal. I don't think many people here are against deep, conscious relationships, our job is to audit the mechanics of how you actually build one without getting burnt out or rejected by high-value women.
> What would a really conscious relationship look like to you? How would you go about building it, if there was zero or minimal manipulation at play?
As I've said most of my previous entanglements and relationships fell apart in my opinion due to not being the man that I needed to be to make them work. To build my dream relationship I have already stepped away from dating for the past few years and focused on my flaws and integrating my weak character traits. Such as my coping through weed when my life gets hard instead of developing massive emotional resilience needed to build the massive life purpose I have planned for myself.
I the good move of focusing on my network of communities throughout this dating break so even though I haven't focused on my sex too much my actual social life has done pretty well and I've sowed the seeds for what I want.
To me this is how you integrate state yellow into your dating life. There is no need to manipulate when you have the life you want and you invite people that are aligned with it into it. Where would the manipulation lie?
My base personality is a nerd and talking about niche intellectual topics. I do that all the time but I can do it from a place of having no impact in life or through the lens of intellectualizing the different fields of life I'm working on.
I want to be able to connect with women authentically through this I find interesting which as an INTP are deep ideas. The more I work on my self-actualization journey the more I've met women into cosplay that I can meet in real life that come to my events and I talk to anime about. I like to talk about personal branding because to me that is the intersection of art and nerdiness, you put your vision out there and then see how others react to it and tweak it. I made a sex comedy video yesterday and posted it to my IG even though I stuttered in the first 3 seconds but I overthink it and never post if I keep reshooting it so fuck it I posted it anyway. All the girls I know saw it so hopefully that works in my favor.
To me the process of becoming who I want to be and combining it with my business and brand has been living out my authentic life and idealized life purpose in actuality. It's been embodying honesty and a lot of times it's been humiliating, frustrating and discouraging but overall it's quite liberating, fun, empowering and I seem to only have reached 5% of the potential of what I'm doing so each day I become more enthusiastic about it.
Just today 2 hours ago a girl posted in my Creatives chat a reel hanging out with two other girls that I all introduced to eachother. 2 of them had gotten in a massive fight last year and I helped mediate it a bit and one of them messaged me last week having issues about her relationship and I tried to pump her up and give her some confidence. To me those are authentic honest relationships with the women of the world that I'm building and incorporating into my business and that feels insanely inspiration and motivating. I can't wait to scale it further and as I become a better community manager and business man because I lack some concrete skills in that area; it should become a very good project for creatives worldwide to participate it and also integrate all the facets in my life in a stage yellow systematic thinking way.
Not there yet but everyday closer brother.
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5 minutes ago, Zenterus said:This man getting cooked every time he makes a thread lol
That's good. Same concept I posted in this man's thread on being antifragile vs just solid.
Getting exposed on a forum for your blindspots is optimal, it's a low stakes intellectual sandbox. Then you fix it and you crush at life. Myself I test ideas here that are more radical than what I usually share and then I see how you guys react and then I post it on Instagram if it makes sense or if it's a silly take I learn from it and move on.
Miguel is ambitious enough to lay out his desires in the open. That does take courage. Many people on here don't actually post anything about the desired life they want because I feel like just someone disagreeing with them is too painful to their ego.
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2 hours ago, Bjorn K Holmstrom said:I've been using Joplin since my OneNote got lost somehow, but you inspired me to try Obsidian, curious to see what the differences are.
I'm an INTP, and have been mostly terrible at making any income in my life, despite good grades and being very close to finishing an engineering degree, so it seems my case adds to this framing.
We're gonna make it bro; somehow
I actually think INTPs are one of the best types to benefit from the AI revolution since we usually understand systems; it's just the repetitively labor that's the hard part. AI agents can take care of that while we build system of leverage. It's the guise I'm currently building my business around, seems promising.
Obsidian is great, what's so cool is you can link concepts together and create emergent ideas. For example you start from INTPs and productivity, then you go to MBTIs ranked by average income which I had already saved months ago. Then you go to big 5 personality and assess yourself on industriousness cuz that's what is gonna cuck your intellect. All the ideas are easy to research together and each new insight you have makes all your perspective just compound on itself which is why I seem to understand deep concepts better than most. It's not because I'm necessarily smarter but I have 45 000 thousand pages of notes on my Obsidian now and I create like 30-100 new ones daily.
This guy has really good videos on Obsidian and using it to foster insights. I don't really use his exact system I find it too convoluted but I learned a lot from his way of thinking.
@Ramanujan I've always hated that intellectual path. People that live in ideas are not very effective in the world. You use your ideas to build leverage to live in systems. University professors for the most part pretty ineffective people. Especially now that AI is gonna eat their lunch and can recap their lectures so being an action taker is more critical than ever.
@Natasha Tori Maru What about yourself, what's your type? Are you an INFJ by chance?
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8 minutes ago, Ulax said:He does teach inner game.
He never says social circle doesn't work. Briefly teaches it too.
He talks about social proof.
He has about 10,000 videos on escalation, which include physical and sexual escalation a lot.
I have two of Todd's programs so I know his work very well.
Interesting, what does he teach about social circle? I genuinely have not heard him talk about it so I'm curious.
I really like his levelling frame work where depending on the context you change your calibration when talking to women. So if you believe they're a bit more shy and not used to status you don't flex and you keep it grounded but if they're more the bad bitch influencer type then you go more push pull and cocky funny. I haven't really seen any other game coach talk about psychology that deeply, the guy is very smart.
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12 minutes ago, Raze said:Todd doesn’t believe in inner game or social circle game, or teach much preselection or physical / sexual escalation. Learning from him will leave many gaps.
Agreed, you must learn from various teachers to refine your game to it's peak potential. Some game has more potential than others though as I've already explained with the hard ceiling of cold approach.
3 minutes ago, Ulax said:Untrue
In what way?
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Sorry for what you're going through man. It's not gaslighting to ask someone if they've been evaluated by a mental health professional when they say stuff that could be based on paranoid delusions.
I don't want to invalidate you which is why I'm glad you contacted your local police department. This above the pay grade of anyone on this forum either way so I wish you the best of luck and don't think anything else discussed in this thread can be productive.
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3 hours ago, Jirh said:@Natasha Tori Maru You're clearly gaslighting.
You asked a passive aggressive question, then doubled down. This isn't your first time.
Bro honestly I think you're the one gaslighting her. Her point about duty of care is valid. Mods should just lock this, not much more we can do.
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26 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:This is actually a valid post. The same argument applies to Christianity, which also emphasizes community, marriage, and service to others, while providing concrete guidance on how to weather the tough challenges of life. For 99% of the people on earth, a dualistic system and Bakti yoga are the way to go. A true path of awakening, as was practiced in the ancient East, requires years of purification and maturation until nondual investigation is even allowed. It is an activity for matue adults. You can witness the foolishness, unbalanced nature and wild claims of those who are unqualified and not under the mature guidance of a teacher.
Training wheels might be necessary but it doesn't make them a high quality concept to build your life around.
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40 minutes ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:I guess that's a very important idea. INTPs are mostly either intellectuals or creatives or both. That's what they find most engaging and interesting.
Yes the problem with business is it's not very interesting. You find a gap in the market and then you send mass outreach to clients and you fulfill services or build products and iterate. The insight idea happens only once and the rest is emotional labor. It takes massive amounts of originality to create a business that leads to you being able to think, contemplate and have insights daily like Leo did as opposed to just doing monogamous tedious tasks all day everyday.
Alex Becker recommends basically boiling down your life to 4 things, work, meditation, relationships and reading fiction. Funnily enough it's very similar to a spiritual ascetic lifestyle but you remove all the juice of life when you do this imo. I spend all day researching random topics, linking them together and working on my obsidian common place book. I only spend like 2 hours a day if that on the mechanical parts of my business.
If I switched the two allocations around I would be wildly more successful than I am now but I think my path will work too as I'm building a lot of leverage through systems thinking so we'll see how it turns out in 5 years .
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3 minutes ago, Jirh said:@LordFall Islam gives you 4 wives and an infinity of harems. Kinda your ideal sexual environment
Haha nah fam; I will fight a man to the death if he tries to impose an upper limit to the number of the women I can have in my life. They had the right initial mindset though with letting you break traditional monogamy if you have the resources and emotional capacity to support multiple women.
God himself will let me have as many wives as I want as long as I respect the rules of reality and growth that he has shaped reality with.
I find the opposite of covering up my women quite hot like dating a hijabi chick and giving her the sexual freedom she craves and the financial independence necessary to live a high quality life outside of the cult. I'm a provider male I like to empower women through their integration into my life and systems. I also find Arabic women very sexy so it'll probably be how I end up meeting one of my wives day.
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@Emerald Yes it's a shame what modern society does to women's sexuality. Even in the west let alone globally. A lot of women are literally scared to look at their own vaginas and accept that they are beautiful beings because femininity is so shamed. Nothing like like going down on a woman and reminding her of that fact personally as she screams your name
Sexuality is one of the most misunderstood topics in humanity and especially in spiritual circles. Half of the time I am shamed even here for my sexuality and libido which leads me to connect deeply with my masculine essence, life purpose in the world and deep thirst for growth and ultimately power and agency the world.
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55 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:I can’t answer from experience as I’m an INTJ, but I can answer based on what I know about INTPs. They have a reputation for being unproductive people living in their mom’s basement if their intelligence isn’t nurtured properly. When they are productive, it revolves around deep intellectual curiosity where Ti hero can apply itself to analytical understanding with the help of Ne parent. An INTP can probably answer better what it looks like for them though.
9 minutes ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:Jesus you didn't have to roast them like that lol. It's a harsh truth though.
Thanks for the comment
I'm an INTP, so true. Out of the 16 types, INTPs are the 3rd worst at making money .ISFP after and INFP dead last ranked by average income.
I've had to make business an intellectual endeavor and focus on the art and quest of knowledge part of it to find some success as opposed to types like ESTJs and ENTJ which are the top 2 highest average income due to lack of overthinking and high average industriousness I guess.
Obsidian and Leo's video on the common place book strategy have also completely changed my life. It's allowed me to super charge my intellectualism and keep track of my knowledge and ameliorate it each day instead of falling pray to useless vague intellectualism that INTPs usually fall into. Also thank God for pickup which grounded my heavily in the real world and the validation of women otherwise I would probably literally be a basement dweller myself
I would say I'm in the top 0.1% of most social INTPs because I tread my social life like a system and a science experiment as opposed to actually just socializing to recharge my energy which I don't enjoy doing.
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I find naturals tend to be only good in specific environments and struggle to adapt to others especially those they don't have status in. I've had a few extroverted friends that ran laps over me in places where they knew people and were naturally charismatic and talked a lot and gathered the attention to themselves.
In other places where they knew no one that I invited them to the jokes landed very poorly and it turned into a lack of calibration pretty quickly as they understand the fundamental social dynamics and how to adapt to different social environments because they just socialized by instinct.
@Zenterus Makes sense its common a lot pickup coaches have an existential crisis in their 40s if they don't have other businesses or communities they're a part of. It's like an unmarried party girl in her 40s the results just start getting worse and it's hard to cope with. Roosh V was one of the funniest ones turning from a degen pickup guy to a christian to try and keep the frame.
Ross Jeffries is one of the few exceptions but I wouldn't say it's aged well, pun intended.