Can God Fully know Itself ?

[thierry]

Where is the proof that God can fully understand or know Itself in Its entirety? Maybe it is in Its very nature that this is impossible. Wouldn’t it be truly beautiful if that were the case?

Or maybe It can and it will.

 

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, thierry said:

Where is the proof that God can fully understand or know Itself in Its entirety? Maybe it is in Its very nature that this is impossible. Wouldn’t it be truly beautiful if that were the case?

Or maybe It can and it will.

 

God is infinity . Infinity , by definition, has no end . If God was able to understand itself fully , it would mean God is not infinity .

 so, God can never understand itself fully , because God doesn’t end .  

it can understand itself fully implicitly, not explicitly.  You can know that God is infinity , but you can’t know how many ants are looking for sugar in some desert area right now .

God is All-knowing . God knows everything. But” everything “ is infinite , not a fixed quantity .  

[thierry]

« If God was able to understand itself fully , it would mean God is not infinity . »

Wouldn’t you be imposing finite logic onto the infinite?

Why God being able to understand itself fully imply it would mean God is not infinity?

[thierry]

Becoming=Understanding

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, thierry said:

Why God being able to understand itself fully imply it would mean God is not infinity

Because a full understanding means there is not a single thing lacking ,not yet not understood.

Since infinity never runs out of new things , god can never understand every single new thing that comes out of his own infinite creating power .

Edited 1 hour ago by Someone here

[thierry]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

Because a full understanding means there is not a single lacking not yet not understood. Since infinity never runs out of new things , god can never understand every single new thing that comes out of his own infinite creating power .

But Maybe an infinité mind can actually. 
If you can fully become infinity maybe you can fully understand infinity. I wrote « becoming=understanding » cause I was contemplating how I could fully understand myself And I wondered whether the only way might be to become the infinite. Maybe to understand the infinite, you simply have to be the infinite, and that alone is enough for complete understanding.

(it’s just thinking, I really don’t know)

 

[Someone here]

@thierry you are god . Can you understand yourself fully ? !

[thierry]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

@thierry you are god . Can you understand yourself fully ? !

Not right now

[thierry]

And you ? 

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, thierry said:

Not right now

Then never .

1 minute ago, thierry said:

And you ? 

No I don’t .

[LordFall]

Are you familiar with the differences between a complicated and complex system?

A system is complicated if it has many moving parts, but its mechanics are entirely deterministic and predictable. An engine, a watch, or a piece of software code are complicated: if you disassemble the parts, analyze their functions, and reassemble them correctly, you can predict the exact outcome every single time. It operates like a machine—linear, cause-and-effect, and fully knowable through reductionism.

A system is complex, by contrast, if it is made up of adaptive, interconnected agents whose interactions create emergent behavior that cannot be predicted simply by analyzing the individual components. Ecosystems, human societies, quantum mechanics, and conscious minds are complex. You cannot "solve" a complex system; you can only observe its patterns, as small inputs can lead to non-linear, unpredictable outcomes.

 

I think to us humans life and reality are a complex system that can never be fully understood due to it's emergent properties. For God I don't see how it wouldn't just be a complicated system that he can figure out instantly, I think he can also make himself forget to enjoy the game that's what humans are but overall there aren't enough parameters to confuse a God.

Even a human can predict the future to a somewhat accurate degree and works like The Bible have proven that many prophecies can be achieved accurately so I think universal consciousness was already solved a long time ago we are just leafs in the wind witnessing human history like automatons watching a movie or really universal consciousness witnessing itself. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[thierry]

20 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Are you familiar with the differences between a complicated and complex system?

A system is complicated if it has many moving parts, but its mechanics are entirely deterministic and predictable. An engine, a watch, or a piece of software code are complicated: if you disassemble the parts, analyze their functions, and reassemble them correctly, you can predict the exact outcome every single time. It operates like a machine—linear, cause-and-effect, and fully knowable through reductionism.

A system is complex, by contrast, if it is made up of adaptive, interconnected agents whose interactions create emergent behavior that cannot be predicted simply by analyzing the individual components. Ecosystems, human societies, quantum mechanics, and conscious minds are complex. You cannot "solve" a complex system; you can only observe its patterns, as small inputs can lead to non-linear, unpredictable outcomes.

 

I think to us humans life and reality are a complex system that can never be fully understood due to it's emergent properties. For God I don't see how it wouldn't just be a complicated system that he can figure out instantly, I think he can also make himself forget to enjoy the game that's what humans are but overall there aren't enough parameters to confuse a God.

Even a human can predict the future to a somewhat accurate degree and works like The Bible have proven that many prophecies can be achieved accurately so I think universal consciousness was already solved a long time ago we are just leafs in the wind witnessing human history like automatons watching a movie or really universal consciousness witnessing itself. 

This incredibly simple object, entirely governed by classical mechanics, is nevertheless, in practice, completely chaotic given the level of precision available to us, after only a very short period of time. Human limitations are pathetic.

I think our distinction between ‘complicated’ and ‘complex’ is simply evidence of our human limitations. And even then, we’re still only operating within the realm of logic.

[aurum]

1 hour ago, thierry said:

Where is the proof that God can fully understand or know Itself in Its entirety?

What proof could there possibly be but the experience of omniscience itself?

[Yimpa]

17 minutes ago, aurum said:

What proof could there possibly be but the experience of omniscience itself?

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