Women are poor judge of character

[Bad_anarchist]

@Tyler Robinson 

I see zero evidence that women are less intrested in spirituality, maybe you are hanging around in spiritual communities where men gather.  I know plenty of spiritual communies that are predomenently female. The first shamans where women, femininty is creation and wisdom, Women are the first teachers becuase us as women have a direct connection to life becuse we carry it. Also being intrested in science has nothing to do with if you lead with intelligence or not in your life, it is irrelevant. 

Studies also show that women are more picky with men, that is how natural selection works. So the idea that you have that men asses more is wrong. Men are just as likley to date shitty women as women are dating shitty men. 

If you wanna improve as a woman you need to start leading with intelligence and realize that femininity is not about being emotional, it is about being intuitive yes, but not emotionaly destructive. What you also need to do is to redefine your definiton of masculine and feminine radicly, becuase you have it all backwards and you are clearly not in touch with your feminine. You have to get rid of the idea that it is unfeminine to lead with intelligence, it is not and you need to go and seriously start studying womanhood and get a proper definiton of masculine and feminine. Look at different cultures and women in history etc. 

Your feminine power comes from your intelligence, tapping into your uniqe wisdom, as well as your charm and wit, not being an emotional wreck.  The reason why my expereince is different, is because I know my self worth, I lead with my intelligence and I don't surround myself with women who are self destructive . I didn't find better people at random, I attracted them to me by being my best self, the people in your life is a reflection of you. When you stop putting up with bullshit the bullshit will leave your life, that does not make me as a woman more masculine. Feminine women don't play the victim, they don't put up with bs, they walk away and set up boundries to conserve their energy to something more productive.

Women who end up in abusive relationships do so because they have low self worth, it is her excusing his behaviour and not setting boundries/walking away that allows him to continue. The red flags are always there but she ignores them, it is a self worth problem, not a femininity problem. A woman with self worth don't attract these men in the first place and if she does and start noticing some bullshit, she will simply walk away. If you belive you don't deserve better you won't get anything better, that is a fact. 

The most feminine women are some of the most intelligent and well articualted people on the planet.  What you are describing is called unresolved trauma and actually not real femininity. Feminine women chose their partners carefully, masculine women are the ones who don't do it. Women who act like you are describing are not in touch with their true feminine and let their masculine side take over to protect them from getting hurt, like they have been in the past.

 

Also touching on this point: 

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But women take sex very seriously and start feeling awesome feelings for the guy they are sleeping with. This doesn't happen to prostitutes because they get used to treating men like customers.

The sexual meeting between a prostitute is radicly different from having a one night stand. First of all, many prositutes have regulars that she actually forms a bond with, many prostitues have clients that come to her for years on end.  Any sexworker knows that the emotinal connection is important, because that is what makes clients coming back and regulars are the ones she makes the most money off. When you have a one night stand you don't disscus with the person before hand what you should do during the sex act. But when you go to an escort you will go into detail about what it is that you want before hand and the escort will either decline you or accept you and set a price. There is a deeper connection in the meeting between the prostitute and a client, than a man and a woman having a one night stand becuase you basicly work as a therapist to these men. 

Edited November 28, 2022 by Bad_anarchist

[Tyler Robinson]

Just now, Bad_anarchist said:

@Tyler Robinson 

I see zero evidence that women are less intrested in spirituality, maybe you are hanging around in spiritual communities where men gather.  I know plenty of spiritual communies that are predomenently female. The first shamans where women, femininty is creation and wisdom, Women are the first teachers becuase us as women have a direct connection to life becuse we carry it. Also being intrested in science has nothing to do with if you lead with intelligence or not in your life, it is irrelevant. 

Studies also show that women are more picky with men, that is how natural selection works. So the idea that you have that men asses more is wrong. Men are just as likley to date shitty women as women are dating shitty men. 

If you wanna improve as a woman you need to start leading with intelligence and realize that femininity is not about being emotional, it is about being intuitive yes, but not emotionaly destructive. What you also need to do is to redefine your definiton of masculine and feminine radicly, becuase you have it all backwards and you are clearly not in touch with your feminine. You have to get rid of the idea that it is unfeminine to lead with intelligence, it is not and you need to go and seriously start studying womanhood and get a proper definiton of masculine and feminine. Look at different cultures and women in history etc. 

Your feminine power comes from your intelligence, tapping into your uniqe wisdom, as well as your charm and wit, not being an emotional wreck.  The reason why my expereince is different, is because I know my self worth, I lead with my intelligence and I don't surround myself with women who are self destructive . I didn't find better people at random, I attracted them to me by being my best self, the people in your life is a reflection of you. When you stop putting up with bullshit the bullshit will leave your life, that does not make me as a woman more masculine. Feminine women don't play the victim, they don't put up with bs, they walk away and set up boundries to conserve their energy to something more productive. Feminine women don't 

Women who end up in abusive relationships do so because they have low self worth, it is her excusing his behaviour and not setting boundries/walking away that allows him to continue. The red flags are always there but she ignores them, it is a self worth problem, not a femininity problem. A woman with self worth don't attract these men in the first place and if she does and start noticing some bullshit, she will simply walk away. If you belive you don't deserve better you won't get anything better, that is a fact. 

The most feminine women are some of the most intelligent and well articualted people on the planet.  What you are describing is called unresolved trauma and actually not real femininity. Feminine women chose their partners carefully, masculine women are the ones who don't do it. Women who act like you are describing are not in touch with their true feminine and let their masculine side take over to protect them from getting hurt, like they have been in the past.

 

Also touching on this point: 

The sexual meeting between a prostitute is radicly different from having a one night stand. First of all, many prositutes have regulars that she actually forms a bond with, many prostitues have clients that come to her for years on end.  Any sexworker knows that the emotinal connection is important, because that is what makes clients coming back and regulars are the ones she makes the most money off. When you have a one night stand you don't disscus with the person before hand what you should do during the sex act. But when you go to an escort you will go into detail about what it is that you want before hand and the escort will either decline you or accept you and set a price. There is a deeper connection in the meeting between the prostitute and a client, than a man and a woman having a one night stand becuase you basicly work as a therapist to these men. 

I don't want to keep endlessly arguing with you over the relative semantics of a premise. Let's assume your premise exists. My premise exists too. So we reach paradigm lock here. We both could be right with our different perspectives, case by case, reality by reality. 

What bolsters my perspective is that I'm not alone in viewing women this way - 

Look at this for example on the same thread - now this is not someone who has never dated women. 

I don't know what you want to say about this - 

Women being poor judges of male character is a very "women" issue.

The amount of women in abusive and toxic relationships is insane.

Guys are dumb about getting laid, but women fall in love with the biggest losers, assholes, narcisists, abusers, and scumbags.

 

I'll leave it to you. 

[Byun Sean]

2 hours ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Do you mean to say that being more emotional makes a woman less conscious? 

 

No. Raising one’s consciousness is the same independent of gender.

your level of consciousness is your capacity to be aware of this moment right now.

women obviously don’t pick toxic men on purpose. They do so because they lack sense and/ or self worth. 

[Emotionalmosquito]

19 hours ago, Tyler Robinson said:

She won't pair bond with a loser. But she can pair bond with a manipulator.

But what if he’s good at hiding it and is a good manipulator? Then what?

[Tyler Robinson]

50 minutes ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

But what if he’s good at hiding it and is a good manipulator? Then what?

I guess that's exactly what happens which seems to be an inevitable problem that even highly conscious women cannot escape. In fact that was the whole implied meaning of the thread. 

[Bad_anarchist]

 

@Tyler Robinson 

You clearly did not get the message I was sending out. Nobody said that women don't do these things, what I said was that these things are not feminine and the result of unresolved trauma/Emotions. I provided an explonation towards why women end up in these situations and also gave some pointers to how women can improve, which you obvs missed so I will try again.

The first thing I pointed out is to redefine your defintion of femininity becuase your idea of femininity is completley off. You can't improve in this area if you don't even know what femininity is to begin with. Many of these behaviours in women you have pointed out are not feminine,(Even if they are not uncommon in women) it is women stepping into their masculine to protect themselves emotionally. The solution here is to step into your feminine, allowing it and accepting it which is a difficult thing to do for many of these women becuase it means dealing with difficult emotions from the past. A woman who has expereinced emotional trauma will move in her masculine because she is forced to, in order to protect herself and that is why a woman acts like this. You typed: 

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I think the solution lies in just meeting a lot of men and hold off bonding just like men hold off masturbating. 

Realizing your feminine nature and how volatile and dangerous it is.

Learning to not submit easily. 

This is EXACTLY how a woman who has been hurt emotionaly and haven't dealt with thoes emotions thinks, I have seen this way to many times. This is not only masculine thinking, but this way of thinking is why you get in trouble. It is very clear in your post that you associate femininity = weakness, I don't know if that is a conscious assosciation or not and you clearly have a strong rejection against your own femininity. You are correct in that you shouldn't submit easily, you need to chose wisley as a woman what man to submit to and have good pussy managment. But don't forget there is a power in submitting and that it should never feel wrong or unsafe to do so. In that case you should leave. 

 

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Women being poor judges of male character is a very "women" issue.

The amount of women in abusive and toxic relationships is insane.

Guys are dumb about getting laid, but women fall in love with the biggest losers, assholes, narcisists, abusers, and scumbags.

The idea that women are just poor judges of male character is untrue. Women know damn well when a man is showing bad character(Im a woman myself, I know how this works I cannot be fooled) women just doesn't admit it in the moment or afterwards and bullshit about "Oh but I didn't know........" Yes you did, you knew. You just thought you could change him so you flat out ignored the red flags, because your self worth is shit and now you feel guilty about it so you say you didn't know to protect yourself from the truth. You wanna keep living in denial and rather play the victim becuase it is less hurtful.

Also we can't talk about "Women in toxic relationships". It takes two people to create a toxic relationship in the first place, a toxic relationship goes both ways so there are just as many men in toxic relationships as there are women. A toxic relationship happens when two toxic, immature and self destructive people come together and don't wanna change. Her not leaving the toxic relationship is toxic, becuase the only one stopping her from leaving is herself. The only time a woman can't leave a relationship is when she is abused so badly that she is isolated and/or finacially dependent on the man and her life is in danger, but that is very rare. In most abusive relationships the abuse is actually mutual. Majority of the times when a woman gets hit in the face, she has infact herself abused the man as well. It is just that women are more likley to die or get severly injured in the argument becuase she is not as strong. Very rarley is the abuse one sided, and when it is, it is more common that it is the woman abusing the man. This is just statistics, she doesn't just "fall in love with a scumbag", it is two scumbags falling in love with eachother more often than not. That or she is in severe denial and thinks she can "Fix him". Which is, of in it self extremly manipulative becuase what that really means is that she wants to mold him into what she wants him to be, so she will try to control him. But she doesn't admit this  to herself ofc, becuase in her mind she is not being manipulative. In her mind she is being "Empathetic" becuase she is trying to fix him. (By literally attempting to control everything he does bc she "Knows whats best for him")

Edited November 28, 2022 by Bad_anarchist

[Tyler Robinson]

Let's say a guy has anger issues. 

Emotional growth for a man would mean getting rid of these anger issues and working on being more wholesome and understanding and less aggressive. 

Emotional growth for a woman would mean?...... 

 

[John Paul]

There aren’t truly any nice guys. masculine guys are fucking “assholes”. The nice masculine guys just haven’t awakened to the fact that they (all) have huge egos and are way less compassionate and emotional than the feminine. 
 

also, you don’t need to be toxic to become the leader of a household and sexually dominant over one woman…. I mean if you wanna be a playboy that to me is the toxicity right there. The truth is I want to channel my huge ego to spread across my survival needs and one woman and all of our children and then a secondary priority to take care of people that my wife cares about unless my logic knows that they are actually exploiting my family. Use the huge ego for good…. Not trying to get pussy… what is that bullshit man cmon.

im not married or conservative (disclosure)

[Roy]

19 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

there is a reason why arranged marriages have been a thing for a while

who better to pick the husband than the father of the daughter? no one is better

It's a good advantage if you want to spawn a lot of humans, but if you want people to be happy and produce a more quality civilization, then arranged marriages suck.

[Tyler Robinson]

5 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

I would have to disagree. If the woman has poor judgment which she does and the father truly loves her then the father will know what to look for in a potential suitor 

We just need better men in society. Good men have to do a good job at getting rid of bad men. 

Once we have great men to pick from, that will bypass a woman's poor judgment any time. 

That's the only solution. 

[Tyler Robinson]

@Something Funny R-responsibility => of society and less victim shaming = perfect solution. 

Extension of self = society = social responsibility. 

= better solutions for all, high IQ, low IQ or low EQ. 

 

 

[Tyler Robinson]

 

Just now, Twentyfirst said:

If it was arranged marriages there would be better men, no?

Because the man would know that he can't fool the father so he will bring his best self forward and continue to do that throughout the marriage or else the father will call him and remind him of the arrangement 

I agree with you btw. 99% of men are dysfunctional but thats just standard. Better to bob and weave the fools and find the rare gem rather than trying to change the entire population

Believe me, good men do the best they can at getting rid of bad men. We literally can't do more we are already trying our absolute best ask any man you admire and he will tell you this 

I think men in older times were better at regulating other men and maintaining strict discipline and moral character of men. 

But those days are over. Especially because of feminization of men, probably due to feminism. We're producing lazy men. Irresponsible men. These men aren't masculine enough to carry a top down approach and enforce strict moral authority. 

That's why society is degrading, divorce rates are going up. Most men don't even want to get off the couch.. 

We need restoration of masculinity. Not evil patriarchy that oppress women. Just strong responsible Masculinity and get rid of cucks. Healthy Masculinity in heavy doses. 

Once you have many morally healthy and strong tough men (like in 1940s) then all bad men are automatically made invisible like pest control. Bad men are afraid of good men. They will disappear like a leaf in the wind. Gone. 

The problem is men just lost it. That powerful Masculinity is gone. 

A woman might get raped in the streets and men will just watch. That's the level of degradation. 

Tucker Carlson might be a right winger and not have a great understanding of everything, yet he was very right when he said this about a woman being raped on a bus. We're seeing the collapse of Civilization and we're seeing the collapse of MEN. 

Watch at 12.18.

 

 

[John Paul]

Dude you can’t do arranged marriages against the girls consent LOL

[Tyler Robinson]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Who defines what better men are? Your wants and desires?

I can't really help you if you can't understand that. I guess "good men" is a universal principle. 

Everyone knows when they see a good man. That he is a good man. 

You simply cannot be a judge of character if you don't have a definition of good men. 

 

[John Paul]

Why don’t you just get better at judging character by practicing?

[John Paul]

@Something Funny lol get rid of cucks so funny  

[Tyler Robinson]

18 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@John Paul creating societal revolution and getting rid of all the cucks is easier and more exciting I guess. Especially when all you have to do is bullshit on the forum.

 

                         

No because that's the ultimate solution. You can't fix stupid. Some people are just naive. Some people forget to lock the door. You can always say "be more responsible," but the reality is even the most responsible people can fall sick, suffer memory lapses, give into bad judgement and even one mistake can cost a life. So, instead of blaming and shaming and placing all the ownership on a single individual for whatever happens to them, it's a chance to realize that there's a meta picture that needs fixing. If only one fish is bad, then you can tell other fishes to be careful. But when the whole pond is rotten, then you have to start cleaning it up. You can be extremely careful with every little thing in life, but you'll still make mistakes, you're only human. It's better to create a safer society than to constantly expect people to be on high alert. Even if you lock the door everyday, at least one day you will forget to lock the door. That's when the thief will get in. 

Now if you have a clean society, you can keep the door open and sleep freely. That's what people used to do in old times. My mom used to tell me this that during her time and she comes from "not so" urban place, that people used to leave their doors open and nobody would rob them since the whole community was tight knit and protective of each other. But when she moved to a more urban place, that's when she constantly had to keep a watch. 

This is also dangerous in other ways. Constantly being on alert and keeping the mental  radar on is very stressful to the human brain. It degrades health because it's motivated by fear. 

But when we create a moral and loving society, fear drops, we live free and create better harmonious relationships. 

Personal responsibility can always exist. But it's not a fool-proof solution. You are not a machine. You will always make mistakes especially when you are depressed or vulnerable. But a healthy society will provide refuge or accommodation for precisely such times, it will be like a hawk watching you and shielding you when you are ill. 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by Tyler Robinson

[Tyler Robinson]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

@Tyler Robinson and so we create this beautiful and loving society by lining up and gassing all cucks?

Cause I still haven't heard any specific proposals from you.

Natural selection. Select Alpha. Select a Hawk.

Cuck auto-eliminated. 

Sorry don't blame me, blame mother nature, that's how she wanted it. 

Survival of the fittest so children get a better future. Again don't blame me. 

[Tyler Robinson]

 

5 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

We did this before though

Women bred men to be aggressive so they can use men for their survival purposes and now women say that men have "toxic masculinity and aggression" 

HUH???

Yep. That's a problem with feminism. Now we're stuck with Beta forever. Future's gonna be worse than the past. 

Alphas are better. They keep society clean at least. Their rage is just a small price to put up with. 

Watchu gonna do with a beta boy that sits on the couch and eats potato chips and plays his silly video games. Not that women can't do that. 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by Tyler Robinson

[Tyler Robinson]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Thrirdly, going back to the above. What makes you think that you can play god and decide who should and shouldn't be part of our society. Humans have existed for about 100000 years and "beta males" still exist so clearly natural selection doesn't work lthe way your selfish ass wants it to work, lol.

We have to create society otherwise we get to live in hell. You're denying creation. Society will be rampant with murderers and rapists and nobody to take authority to kill the beast. It's just natural order. Otherwise social order collapses. You don't like it because your feelings are hurt. 

But survival doesn't care about feelings. If there are too many weak people, society collapses. 

It's not about playing God and nobody has interest in playing God. This is where liberalism and conservatism clash. Liberalism will create a weak society. Because they care more about principle than survival.

Conservatism cares more about survival than principle. Without survival there's no principle. 

You can afford weak people only in a morally strong society where nobody attacks another, nobody acts uncivil and everyone is super respectful and high conscious. Such a society is what the Alpha is trying to create by eliminating toxic stage Red cruel elements. Once you have a society that is well protected from harm, that's when it's safe, when it's safe, thats when weak people at least get a chance to survive and flourish. 

What I mean is that the Alphas are the gatekeepers of the society just like Moderators are the gatekeepers of this forum