Are animals enlightened?

[allislove]

12 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Yes I can 

Where is 'I' located that found a separation, in the head? ?

[Someone here]

@allislove were you asking about separation between humans and animals? 

[Blackhawk]

We don't know if humans are enlightened, let alone if animals are.

Edited April 18, 2021 by Blackhawk

[Carl-Richard]

33 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

We don't know if humans are enlightened, let alone if animals are.

What do you mean? Is this the start of yet another solipsism thread? What's next — veganism as we're on the topic of animals? 

"Buckle up and strap in for our latest rendition of the eco-fascist/solipsist-nihilist/neo-spiritualist crossover! All you need is a stable internet service and some ill-defined sparetime! This is an experience you will not regret having for the 5th time this week!" 

Edited April 18, 2021 by Carl-Richard

[allislove]

@Someone here any kind of separation ?

[Someone here]

@allislove well there is apparent separation.. Nonduality is hidden within duality. I'm speaking from relative perspective. 

[allislove]

@Someone here

Roughly speaking, yes. The better pointer would be "not two", i.e. nonduality is duality and vice versa.

It means zero separation, only one creator so to speak. So, a cat and your body are inside this creator... and this creator is actual you. Currently, there is focusing on thinking that you are your descriptions (e.g. 'I am a man', 'I was born', etc). Self realization reveals that you are not your descriptions, you are the whole experience that allows for descriptions to exist inside you.

[Zeroguy]

Yes that creator is me. Who else??

[Javfly33]

13 minutes ago, Kalo said:

So you created the universe, the sun etc? Lol

To think that God is only the formed manifested reality and nothing more, is to deny God.

It's time to surrender to the fact that you are God, there isn't any Gods. Like plural. Only singular. 

[allislove]

34 minutes ago, Kalo said:

So you created the universe, the sun etc? Lol

Not even that. You are the whole universe, the sun, everything, creation itself.

22 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

It's time to surrender to the fact that you are God, there isn't any Gods. Like plural. Only singular. 

Love the vibe bro.

[allislove]

8 minutes ago, Kalo said:

Nah bro, I'm pretty sure I'm just a guy limited to my body like all of us. I was born and I will die, just like all of us.

I would say like that: you are a guy, but not only ? You have more 'power' than you may think. You can live at peace, you can create what you truly want, you can share loving attention with everyone.

Have you read amazing post from Nahm, called "The Path, Living & The Dream Board"? A lot of cool pointers on that.

Godspeed ?

[Zeroguy]

2 minutes ago, allislove said:

I would say like that: you are the guy, but not only ? You have more 'power' that you may think. You can live at peace, you can create what you truly want, you can share loving attention with everyone.

Have you read amazing post from Nahm, called "The Path, Living & The Dream Board"? A lot of cool pointers on that.

Godspeed ?

Ameno, Ameno. 

Lambo baby can't wait. There never was floating bald head in space. Can it be better. 

Edited April 18, 2021 by Zeroguy

[The0Self]

6 hours ago, neutralempty said:

@m0hsen animals have ego

No. Only the human expresses the ego/self-consciousness/judger. On this planet, anyway.

[Breakingthewall]

21 hours ago, Kalo said:

Nah bro, I'm pretty sure I'm just a guy limited to my body like all of us. I was born and I will die, just like all of us. 

I'm happy I'm not the sun, looks pretty warm there bro.

There is only you playing a game with yourself. Only, alone, the being imploding on itself. you are trapped, like me, and the game tries to free yourself completely. if you don't see it, you can't even start playing

[Nahm]

Maybe forget animals... perhaps the question is why can’t it be determined wether anything of perception is enlightened, said the flashlight. 

[Breakingthewall]

the animals are not enlightened. They are god being a bird, pure being being, éxtasis, but they do not know that they are god, like 1-year-old children, they simply are. They are close to God insofar as they are pure, but it is necessary to eat the apple of the tree and be expelled from Eden to be able to see.

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Kalo said:

I enjoy being trapped in the game bro. A day will come when we all will die the Ultimate death and return to the Source.

For now, playing is all we can do

Play, have fun. Pray, remember your God. Contemplate, remember your death. Remember your return to God.

Yeah yeah agree, i always thought like you, but now I think the only thing I have to do is undo the enigma, free myself, everything else is child's play

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Become free like the birds. 

 

nice wish. nothing less than that is enough

[Someone here]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

they simply are. 

That's enlightenment 

[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, Someone here said:

That's enlightenment 

So were you enlightened when you were 1.5 years old? I think you have to get lost to find you again and see the truth . Just be is enough, or course, but it seems that us the humans have another path

Edited April 19, 2021 by Breakingthewall