Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Akemrelax said: @electroBeam Sure, Sadhguru might embody more spirituality than Leo (arguable but okay), but does he understand politics and his biases? I would say his political understanding is bad. And don't forget just because someone is "enlightened" doesn't mean they know how politics works or how to perform surgery. We can't even be sure they know the limits of their mind imo. Spiritual work != politics. If I wanted to know how politics works I wouldn't say "yeah Barack Obama might have more experience with politics than Elon Musk, but does he know how to make money off rockets? No! Therefore because he doesn't know how to make money off rockets, he knows more about politics then Barack Obama" Spiritual work is what politics is made of, not meddling around at the surface, arguing over the seemingly existent patterns(that aren't actually there) and being good at arguing over what patters are better then others. 41 minutes ago, Akemrelax said: @electroBeam Are his followers genuine truth seekers or are they mostly dogmatic Hindu religious nuts? Do his followers actually understand anything when he says magical stuff or do they just accept it without questioning? If we are being honest his followers mostly follow him because of religious dogma and other reasons, not really for truth. I've met a significant number of his followers over the years as I've done a few of his courses and went to his weekly programs for a while. All this "just accept it without questioning" business is a narrow angle at tackling spirituality called jnana yoga or in the west called scepticism or Pyrrhonism. You can get enlightened as fuck, way more then 99% of people on this site, without questioning reality and just doing kriya yoga, or bhakti yoga or karma yoga. Shamans out in the Amazon are absolutely shit at thinking, yet their level of enlightenment is massive. The idea that jnana is superior to the other types of yoga, or that somehow questioning reality and thinking properly is necessary for enlightenment is your bias because you're a thinking based person and because you've surrounded yourself around thinking based people. You're no different to those hindu supporting spiritual people who advocate for their way of tackling spirituality. They say sadhguru and his practices are the best, you say questioning reality is the best. So what. Actually the most advanced spiritual people don't question reality at all. They just have a natural intuitive feeling for what's right. Its us the thinkers that are the handicapped ones. And yes they do understand it, but just because they don't show it in the way you (a jnana type) shows it, doesn't mean they don't understand it. They aren't gonna rave over endless philosophical debates about it, they will just embody it and live their life by it, like a lot of shamans. If you question them, they will switch off, because they can't see the connection between the embodiment they are feeling, and talking about it. Some of them don't even realize talking about it is a thing. They feel it, know it, but keep to the scriptures because that's what works for them. You would then mistakenly think they don't know shit when they may know way more then you. Edited October 15, 2020 by electroBeam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 @electroBeam I am not questioning the validity of Bhatki yoga. I am saying that we should know it's limitations. What happens when your spiritual guru starts supporting a political party that you don't agree with? OR What if he tells you to murder someone or do some crazy stuff like that? OR has unscientific or racist beliefs? Most people don't have the capability to intuitively feel what's right, they can get into various traps if they do Bhakti Yoga, and such people are very common in India. I think there was some post here about a person's experience with Sadhguru's courses, and how they found many stage blue followers in his ashram. I think we agree that in the relative sense spirituality doesn't mean political understanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 @Akemrelax what is your astrological sign? You’re seemingly stuck in the same dichotomy as Leo @electroBeam I like what I see coming from you. I’m a Taurus moon so I relate with the emotions behind Leo’s words/actions, as Pisces sun, I’m emotionally mutable often all over the place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 @DrewNows I'm a gemini moon. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Preety_India said: @DrewNows I'm a gemini moon. You’ll probably like this ? havent seen it, let me know what you think! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 @electroBeam What do you mean by a "Jhana type"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 5 hours ago, electroBeam said: But they don't talk about epistemology because they think talk is cheap. Hehehe... No, they are just clueless about it. They embody their lack of epistemic understanding by being dogmatic and ideological. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, electroBeam said: You can get enlightened as fuck, way more then 99% of people on this site, without questioning reality and just doing kriya yoga, or bhakti yoga or karma yoga. And that is a huge problem. There is a lot more to this work than enlightenment alone. And there is no such thing as one singular enlightenment. There are many grades and qualities of it. Low grades are easy to attain. High grades are extremely rare. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said: @electroBeam What do you mean by a "Jhana type"? haven't read all of it but: https://us.humankinetics.com/blogs/excerpt/the-four-primary-types-of-yoga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) Moment of silence for the love/unity conspirers in Berlin and around the world ?? “creating a better normal” aka creating a new new Peace love and uh tekkers #doctorsgettingitright Edited October 15, 2020 by DrewNows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, mavelezm said: This is the map of flat Earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 QAnon’s Obsession With #SaveTheChildren Is Making It Harder To Save Kids From Traffickers https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/qanons-obsession-with-savethechildren-is-making-it-harder-to-save-kids-from-traffickers/ more examples of the problems a lot of these modern politically/racially charged conspiracy theories are causing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 @Lyubov Of course! Lol You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 Just a graph, just a meme. Ooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2020 @Yog lol. Nice though.. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Yog said: Just a graph, just a meme. So that unicorn is a pedophile? That would explain the horn. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Leo Gura said: So that unicorn is a pedophile? That would explain the horn. Yes and the horse part is a symbol for stamina, the wings for endless pleasure. It is known. Ooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16, 2020 Jeffery Epstein reincarnated into a unicorn because everyone knows little girls love unicorns. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
