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Will enlightenment bring us happiness?

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by elimination it should, since it is the absence of ego, which is the source of unhappiness

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40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

OK seriously I'm genuinely interested in knowing the answer.  How in the world could there be an enlightened someone when there aren't any someones in the first place??????   How can something that doesn't exist become this or that??.   "I" is a thought.. Is a thought enlightened? (and enlightened is a thought as well)o.O

If a human thinks he is a human he is correct. You have misunderstood the non-duality teachings. It's not about convincing oneself that one does not exist, beliefs have nothing to do with it, there are some Christians and Muslims who are more awake than many non-duality students and teachers.

In my opinion, after kundalini awakening and refinement/integration one will basically be unconditionally happy.

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If you're suffering from delusions, yes.

If not, it'll bring you suffering and then act like it'll free you, just so that you can go meta and while not moving an inch.


If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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@Seraphim the one who thinks thoughts is a thought. 

 


"life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived "

-Osho

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"one convincing oneself that he doesn't exist" xD just how many are inside your head?  That's like saying you can have the same moment repeating three times...each moment is a new moment. Each self is a new thought.  There is nobody home. People underestimate the significance of this.. Ofcourse that'she death of you. 


"life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived "

-Osho

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It's the death of the individual that believes it needs to find happiness.

It's freedom for No One ❤


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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2 hours ago, Moon said:

Someone enlightened can be suicidally depressed?

Yes, enlightenment doesn't protect against mental illness like schizophrenia, major depression episodes, bipolar

If someone has a genetic predisposition + there will be an environmental trigger = no enlightenment will protect against it


"Buddhism is for losers and those who will die one day."

                                                                                            -- Kenneth Folk

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It doesn't bring anyone happiness per se, as awakening is a deep recognition that there is no one to be either happy or depressed.

But in the emptiness of existence is a natural peace, a natural joy. This presupposes, however, that the ego has fully surrended to Love/Oneness, which takes a lot of consciousness-work❤️


Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

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3 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Well there is GOD ya know. ?

God = no one <3

If God was 'someone', then God wouldn't be infinite

God is God ... is the very fabric and structure of existence ... reality ... which is you; the real you - when you get to the rock bottom of it all.


Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

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11 hours ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

It doesn't bring anyone happiness per se, as awakening is a deep recognition that there is no one to be either happy or depressed.

But in the emptiness of existence is a natural peace, a natural joy. This presupposes, however, that the ego has fully surrended to Love/Oneness, which takes a lot of consciousness-work❤️

Beautiful idea, that surrender

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