Leo Gura

Who Killed The America Dream?

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He predicts in 20 years our dollar cease to be the international currency. I was hoping that the old republicans pass away from old age and the new generation would make radical change. If congress was more like Alexandria Cortez. Is that delusional thinking? 

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@Lindsay I don't think AOC is the end-all, be-all for American congress members, though I do like her.

 

To answer your question, I would say that this is not the most enlightened way to think about this subject. Based on Chris Hedges' talk, we need a complete overhaul of American politics before things become irrevocably damaged. If I had to come up with a solution, it would include wealth redistribution (with UBI) and giving people more power than corporations to influence politics, probably through what Andrew Yang calls "Democracy Dollars," where each voting adult gets a certain amount of money which can only be used to donate to a political candidate.

 

That would have the same effect as getting money out of politics.

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This is a bleak message from Chris Hedges. I feel helpless and hopeless in a way. What can we do to help avert the collapse of the US and its global influence?

 

All I know is to work on myself spiritually, to serve others, and to donate to politics that would benefit the collective.

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Chris Hedges has some good ideas, but don't expect him to give a deeper spiritual context to all this.

Collapse is not the only possibility. There is a lot of untapped progressive potential going forward and you as an individual can do a lot to build a good life.

The problem with listening too much socialist political commentary is that it makes your thinking so collectivist that you forget that as an individual you can do a lot of stuff to escape wage slavery and build a good life.

Listen to socialists, but don't forget to build your life. Don't buy into their excuses.


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@Leo Gura sometimes i really struggle to understand what you are trying to say.

In one hand, you say how amazing chris hedges's speech are. 

On the other hand, you say don't buy it too much.

What is that supposed to mean?

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10 hours ago, Lindsay said:

He predicts in 20 years our dollar cease to be the international currency.

I predict that this will happen within 2 years. The US is monetizing too much of its own debt. 

Look at Gold reaching record-high prices. Look at cryptocurrencies reaching new highs.

The world is trying to diversify away from the dollar and we are discovering in which currency we can place our faith. 

2 hours ago, Annoynymous said:

@Leo Gura sometimes i really struggle to understand what you are trying to say.

In one hand, you say how amazing chris hedges's speech are. 

On the other hand, you say don't buy it too much.

What is that supposed to mean?

Think for yourself. Then you will find what is truly amazing. 

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12 hours ago, NatureB said:

@Lindsay I don't think AOC is the end-all, be-all for American congress members, though I do like her.

 

To answer your question, I would say that this is not the most enlightened way to think about this subject. Based on Chris Hedges' talk, we need a complete overhaul of American politics before things become irrevocably damaged. If I had to come up with a solution, it would include wealth redistribution (with UBI) and giving people more power than corporations to influence politics, probably through what Andrew Yang calls "Democracy Dollars," where each voting adult gets a certain amount of money which can only be used to donate to a political candidate.

 

That would have the same effect as getting money out of politics.

I didn’t say AOC was the win all. I know she’s stage green. But she is demonized by the entire right and she’s demonized by moderate Democrats. Most Americans think socialism is evil. Corporate America convinced the population that it’s evil and they started to do so in the 1950s so there are multiple generations that have been brainwashed  to fear Marx. “It doesn’t work In practice and looks good on paper.” I’m so tired of the arguments with all or nothing thinking. I’m so tired of having to explain the need for a balanced system. I’m so tired of having to avoid using trigger words like socialism because that automatically closes republican and moderate Democrats minds. It instantly invalidates your whole arguement because they are so afraid of communism that they don’t even want to understand what communism is about. And I’m not trying to say communism is the solution or that it’s better. Extremes of anything is dangerous because we are all at different levels. And I’m not against democratizing the top ceos of large corporations. I’m not against term limits on ceos, Congress, and other authority figures. Corporate America had the media on their side since the 1960s. They are the ones who broke up the unions. That’s what he means by the lefts inability to organize. Corporate America sold the idea that free markets is equivalent to freedom. But like Chomsky says, it’s just not true. If we really believed in free markets we wouldn’t put tariffs on Mexican grown tomatoes that are cheaper than tomatoes grown domestically. Our system has been decaying since 1950s. It’s people like AOC that point out the root problems and because she has socialist ideas she is automatically invalidated. I was saying that maybe the older generation is so brainwashed and unable to think about the pros and cons of the other side that it would be better to just wait it out until they naturally die and no longer vote. Just seems like republicans are so desperate.

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They use religion to speak to stage blue and that is another jab. Our constitution was created by stage orange and it’s like somehow stage blue ignored separation of church and state. Stage orange let it happen because stage blue is so much easier to manipulate and control. Now a Cold War with China? Our new enemy? The driving justification of spending so much on the military? Just like he says, communist Russia collapsed from within. It imploded because there was no balance. A bad mixture of authoritarian radical left communism that demonized the rich and dehumanized and revenge oppressed.  Stage blue majority Christians demonized all other religions and science. Stage orange science demonizes all religious people. I was listening to Krauss interview Chomsky and it bothered me that he interrupted Chomsky when Chomsky said “human design.” I think Krauss is intelligent,  I was just annoyed that he couldn’t allow Chomsky to authentically explain what he means just because Krauss is anti God and can’t let the word “design” be used.  It’s ok To believe in partial truths. I don’t care how you got your ideas. As long as the core principle is the same. 

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9 hours ago, Annoynymous said:

@Leo Gura sometimes i really struggle to understand what you are trying to say.

In one hand, you say how amazing chris hedges's speech are. 

On the other hand, you say don't buy it too much.

What is that supposed to mean?

Of course. Nuanced thinking is required.

Hedges makes some great critiques of the system, but his worldview is also biased and not the highest. His understanding of spirituality is lacking. And he's has no understanding of development psychology (SD, etc.)

There's not a single person in political commentary who you can take as having all the answers. Which is why our politics is so filled with problems. Virtually no one has found the real answers. We have to pioneer the answers.


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@Leo Gura yet chris almost perfectly described how stage blue people thinks ( i am refering to your blog post). So what is he actually missing? I guess connecting the dots?

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7 minutes ago, Annoynymous said:

@Leo Gura yet chris almost perfectly described how stage blue people thinks ( i am refering to your blog post). So what is he actually missing? I guess connecting the dots?

He's still subtly demonizing them.

He's still not seeing the full scope of the relativity of worldviews, including his own. I see his approach is solid Green. It's good, but still limited.


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@Leo Gura I'm wondering, in the spiral dynamics bible, it says that the next step is stage Green economics is Social Democracy (page 315, where it says Political and Economic Matrix), but this new wave of progressive activists are calling themselves 'Socialists'.

 


''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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6 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

@Leo Gura I'm wondering, in the spiral dynamics bible, it says that the next step is stage Green economics is Social Democracy (page 315, where it says Political and Economic Matrix), but this new wave of progressive activists are calling themselves 'Socialists'.

It makes little difference.

The two are not incompatible.


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