Maybe Leo Hasn't reached the ultimate teaching

[Nak Khid]

On 12/3/2019 at 10:27 PM, electroBeam said:

If I interpreted it correctly, Leo suggested in his latest video that the ultimate teaching is Self-Love. That's certainly a high teaching, no doubt about it, but is it the highest? We need to consider that its possible Leo hasn't completed his journey quite yet. 

So of course this is all theoretical, but its an interesting idea to put forth that God-Realization/Liberation eventually stops. And according to Leo stops at Self-Love. According to Jan Esmann (and a few others I can't remember) it seems like God-Realization/Liberation is never ending, you can keep realizing more and more facets of God forever. Like the 'blue being' whatever that is. 

Prior to  Buddhism, there existed the traditions of Brahma-loka and meditation with the four virtues of loving-kindness, compassion, empathetic joy and equanimity.

Maitrī means benevolence, loving-kindness, friendliness,  amity, good will, and active interest in others.  It is the first of the four sublime states (Brahmaviharas) and one of the ten pāramīs of the Theravāda school of Buddhism.

The cultivation of benevolence (mettā bhāvanā) is a popular form of Buddhist meditation carried over from Hindu texts.

In contrast to vipassana, in metta practice you are not focusing on the ultimate nature of phenomena. Furthermore, you are choosing a particular object of meditation, which is the metta phrase, such as “May I be happy.” You hold the phrase in your heart just the way you’d hold something fragile and precious in your hand. As you cherish each phrase, distractions inevitably arise.

The practice gradually increases in difficulty with respect to the targets that receive the practitioner’s compassion or loving-kindness.

At first the practitioner is focused on self love

then loved ones,

then neutral ones,

difficult ones and

finally all living beings,

 Choosing a particular object to stay focused on makes metta a concentration practice. When some other experience arises you don’t explore it, note it, or try to see its changing nature.

People often have enormous insight doing metta. Since it is a concentration practice and you have a chosen object of meditation, you keep shepherding your attention back to that object.
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so according to this practice  love of all beings or love of difficult people is higher than self love.
Some argue that any of these forms of love don't deal with ultimate nature however some do

 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Nak Khid

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