Leo Gura

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10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have said many times that there are many ways of awakening. Find what works for you. I am sharing what works for me.

Yes I understand. My question was in regard to your experience. To you, does it seem like traditional methods are not effective enough after having tasted these psychedelic awakenings? There aren't many people who have gone down your path so I just want to learn in case I decide to go there. It's nice to have somewhat of an idea what could be possible

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@Riblet Roblet For me personally, meditation does not even come close the power of psychedelics. I could meditate for 30 years and not come anywhere near the deepest realizations I've had on psychedelics. Maybe somebody could do it, but not me.

When I look around at most enlightenment teachers, I find their teachings to be shallower than the things I've realized on psychedelics.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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1 hour ago, FredFred said:

@Leo Gura Do you think permanent awakening/unconditional happiness is possible after heavy use of powerful psychedelics like 5-MeO or DPT? I'm sorry if the question got already asked in the past.

Generally speaking no. Additional work is required.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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I want to find my right dosage with dpt.

Is it possible to up the dose in one evening? I mean: taking one scoop and if it's not enough after one hour or so taking one more scoop?

Does it add up or is it like LSD where you have to take much more when you take a second dose?

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1 hour ago, Marchino said:

I want to find my right dosage with dpt.

Is it possible to up the dose in one evening? I mean: taking one scoop and if it's not enough after one hour or so taking one more scoop?

Does it add up or is it like LSD where you have to take much more when you take a second dose?

It could, but I advise against such tactics as it will one day get you into hot water. People often redose too soon and end up getting in way over their head.

28 minutes ago, ROOBIO said:

What is better for a newbie? 5 meo or dpt? How do you take dpt?

I suggest plugging.


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4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I could, but I advise against such tactics as it will one day get you into hot water. People often redose too soon and end up getting in way over their head.

I suggest plugging.

I think I am going to start with dpt over 5 meo. It seems alot more smooth into taking you into non-duality. Of course will trip on 4-aco/lsd a couple dozen times before touching those psychedelics.

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@ROOBIO It's hard to say which one to start with. More people report bad trips on DPT. If you can find 5-MeO then it's probably better because it's more benevolent and clearer.

But DPT is easier to find since its not explicitly banned in most countries.


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1 hour ago, Marchino said:

I want to find my right dosage with dpt.

Is it possible to up the dose in one evening? I mean: taking one scoop and if it's not enough after one hour or so taking one more scoop?

Does it add up or is it like LSD where you have to take much more when you take a second dose?

Redosing is typically haphazard. If you wanted to redose DPT, and hour later would be too late. If you're talking about plugging or snorting, you should have a pretty good idea of where it's going by 20 minutes in, and at that point it wouldn't be too late to augment your initial dose. 

Much better would be just to wait until the next day or later and try again at an increased dose in one go.


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I got myself some DPT that i wanna try out.

Planning to start with plugging 20mg. Since that seems a good safe dose to start out with. 

After that by how much would be recommended to increase the dose? Like go from 20 to 30 or to 40 mg. Or does it get exponentially more intense?

Thanks for any tips.   

 

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@Mel B 20mg you will probably barely feel. But it's a good safe entry point.

50-100mg is where things get serious.

After you reach 50mg, increase in 10mg increments.

If 20mg is barely noticable for you, jump up to 50mg.


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Barley felt 20 mg so will go up to 50 mg on Sunday.

Can you trip multiple times a day with DPT like 5 meo?

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Mel B said:

Can you trip multiple times a day with DPT like 5 meo?

Probably


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Hey guys, after my last trip I am planning on getting some DPT. However there have been some law changes in July in Germany. I read the law but could not really get through all the chemical jargon. DPT is not called out specifically but there are some chemical links that are banned outright. Does anyone of you know if it is still legal in GE? 

Cheers! 

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@cle103 Germany delegalized all tryptamines in July. Yes, that includes DPT. But it's way worse because it means really that almost all psychedelics are illegal in your country.

I am 100% sure that 1cP-LSD is legal (that c is very important) and it seems that 4-PrO-DMT is legal too. Those are the only substance available according to German law I know of. Both very novel, though 1cP should act like normal LSD and 4-PrO should be indistinguishable from 4-AcO.

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@Girzo Ahh man what a bitch. First they take our AL-LAD now this... 

Thank you for clarifying 🙏🏻

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I plugged 30 and didn’t feel much, went up to 50 mg. I felt the come up about 15 minutes after plugging. It made me dance and Music felt great, but definitely not anything crazy and not intense at all. So I am gonna take 70mg this Sunday and see If I can break trough and were it will take me. 

Thinking about if I should re-dose after a half hour if its still to weak. Did anyone successfully try to re-dose DPT, or would it be a waste of material?

 

 

 

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@Mel B The difference between 50 and 70 is drastic.

You can re-dose DPT quite effectively, though don't do that. I bet you will find 70 mg to be enough.

The dose curve of DPT is very exponential, it starts to show the full spectrum of the substance at 50 mg and gets 10 times or so stronger at 100 mg.

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