Kriya Yoga Mega-Thread

[TheSelf]

42 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Ok!! And I agree words just don't do justice to it.. I've adapted the use of the word Absolute, in substitution for the word GOD since GOD invokes so many varying meanings and definitions by different ppl, with Absolute I refer to it as a realm of sorts, the most fundamental realm, not a place with boundaries and such, but its a realm that is all about Potentials and Possibilities, a realm of Completeness and Oneness, but there is no physicality, no boundaries, no way to express or experience to exist there, but since Potentials exist, we came into existence over time, are here to explore it in a limited way, Yoga is just a path to realizing this for a Human Being, a methodology and science to wipe the slate clean, regain memory of what Absolute is while Embodied.. 

But you are the Absolute in this very moment! That pure presence that gives light for you to exist, that which sees all the ripples in your consciousness, all the changes, all the experiences, even your experience of unconsciousness, it's all being observed. That unchanging reality in which all the changes are known.

Your true self, the self beyond time and space. And that's simply you! Before the filters of the ego-mind! 

42 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I think no matter how Enlightened one is, even Guru level ppl, they still have to deal with the Body and Mind, even though they experientially know and realize they are not either of those things, only when we transcend this Earthly realm and go up the latter per say (astral realm and beyond) that just before we lose our individuality we realize more of Absolute than we can here while on Earth!

Yeah probably

Now matter how transcended you still need to utilize some levels of ego to be able to function in the physical world.

But I think Ramana Maharshi was an exception as he was like living God. Pure shining presence of 'that'.

Edited November 7 by TheSelf

[TheSelf]

Regular daily practice of Kriya Yoga is very important, as even gaining a little bit of progress in terms of sensing your energy or any effect of the practice you start to feel, you don't wanna lose!

This is true spirituality, literally transforming your entire experience of life towards liberation on all levels!

None of your psychedelic experiences do matter as the real work is to be done through Kriya Yoga path by changing your body physiologicaly, energetically.

Also I wanna emphasize again on some daily hatha yoga too, my experience of the energy is on whole new level all thanks to hatha practices that opened and purified many of the nadis and the three channels.

So keep practicing guys! 

 

 

Edited November 8 by TheSelf

[Ishanga]

[TheSelf]

4 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Yes!

Because mind and the body is manifestation of prana, if you master your prana you master your mind, you master your body cause the very same prana holds it's atomic structure so the whole unconscious (of course conscious) process could become conscious!

By refining your prana to subtler forms you refine your mind and the body too eventually the physicality of your experience could be as subtle as light! Meaning so pure and subtle!

Prana in it's raw form is not subtle (thou much more subtle than any other energy forms), it could cause so much pulsations and pressure while moving but things could change as you refine it more and more every day!

Edited November 15 by TheSelf

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, TheSelf said:

Yes!

Because mind and the body is manifestation of prana, if you master your prana you master your mind, you master your body cause the very same prana holds it's atomic structure so the whole unconscious (of course conscious) process could become conscious!

By refining your prana to subtler forms you refine your mind and the body too eventually the physicality of your experience could be as subtle as light! Meaning so pure and subtle!

Prana in it's raw form is not subtle (thou much more subtle than any other energy forms), it could cause so much pulsations and pressure while moving but things could change as you refine it more and more every day!

Yes, there are layers upon layers of Subtlety too be discovered, Kriya it seems is one of the few paths that allow one to really have a true Knowing, pretty cool in my book! 

[Leo Gura]

On 11/8/2025 at 2:51 AM, TheSelf said:

None of your psychedelic experiences do matter

They matter more than anything matters.

But Kriya is good too.

Edited November 15 by Leo Gura

[mmKay]

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They matter more than anything matters.

But Kriya is good too.

Are you gonna do a crash course on the stripped down version of Kriya? Looking to get back into the practice. I've got all the books but I feel it's overkill.

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, mmKay said:

Are you gonna do a crash course on the stripped down version of Kriya?

You mean a Kriya course?

I want to make one but not until I gain more experience in it. In a few years. I need to test it out more and I got other courses to make first and the retreat.

Focus on mastering pranayama. That's the gist of it.

Edited November 15 by Leo Gura

[UnbornTao]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

You mean a Kriya course?

I want to make one but not until I gain more experience in it. In a few years. I need to test it out more and I got other courses to make first and the retreat.

Focus on mastering pranayama.

That just sounds like breathing with extra steps.

[Thought Art]

Michael over at Yogalap has a pay what you want Pranayama course I highly recommend. 

Learning from books is super hard. Learning from video is the best way to rapidly learn if you don’t have an in person teacher. 

I honestly think consciousness can be explored through pranayama, Krya, Acupressure and Qigong. Meditation is a foundation for that work. What I am saying is very profound for relative spiritual work and inner cultivation. 
 

Also, look up Dan Brulé’s breathing courses. Very Interesting and powerful stuff are these breathing exercises. 
 

I share these tangents with you in this Krya thread so you can start to envision the potential of a holistic approach to energy work. 
 

These sober practices are important along with psychedelic work, journaling, contemplating etc. 

Actually, a great way to approach each of these fields is through contemplating while doing them. Deeply contemplate an acupressure point for a couple years. 

Edited November 15 by Thought Art

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

That just sounds like breathing with extra steps.

That's what yoga is.

[UnbornTao]

50 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's what yoga is.

Just call it Breathing 2.0.

[Thought Art]

@UnbornTao Call it Breath Work

[UnbornTao]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@UnbornTao Call it Breath Work

Breath Work Pro Max sells better.

[Thought Art]

@UnbornTao Bhaa

 

[TheSelf]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

They matter more than anything matters.

But Kriya is good too.

Temporary experience, sure they come with understandings and insights, and love, but you come back from any state you experience.

Kriya Yoga changes your body physiologicaly and energetically and you master the necessary skills, so that God consciousness could be your moment to moment default state if you wish.

How does these even compare?

Imagine dating God over and over (in psychedelics) versus making her your girlfriend and living with her! 

Edited November 16 by TheSelf

[Leo Gura]

40 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Temporary experience,

No!

It permananetly changes your understanding, and understanding is what matters most, more than any state or enlightenment.

Nothing matters but Understanding.

God-Realization is just Total Self-Understanding.

You can have all the enlightenments you want but you still won't understand.

Edited November 16 by Leo Gura

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

Understanding is the key that unlocks insights.

Understanding is the value of consciousness 

Edited November 16 by ExploringReality

[TheSelf]

47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No!

It permananetly changes your understanding, and understanding is what matters most, more than any state or enlightenment.

Nothing matters but Understanding.

God-Realization is just Total Self-Understanding.

You can have all the enlightenments you want but you still won't understand.

I assume understanding is your deepest joy and most important desire, but don't think everyone wants the same thing, and has the same priorities, I value  understanding as much as I value states, and gaining mastery over my energy and mind. Intellectual dry understanding doesn't have much value for me 

Why'd understanding be more important than states or vise versa? Or would chasing enlightenment have less value than understanding, see it's just egoic mind who emphasis on something pushing away other things not God. God doesn't care.

I'd say the wise choice would be maintaining balance between all these aspects. Meaning as much as you care for psychedelics care for yoga too and put in practices.

[Terell Kirby]

44 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Why'd understanding be more important than states or vise versa?

In my experience- state is only as important insofar to the level and degree in which it enables understanding.

A state of kangaroo Consciousness is probably pretty cool to explore, but even better if it gets one closer to Pure Understanding.

Same goes for all other states. After all, what’s a state of Enlightenment worth without pure understanding that comes along with it? Not much in the end .. just more played out spiritual ideas and platitudes

Edited November 16 by Terell Kirby