The Law of the Sublime - Robert Greene

[Human Mint]

1 hour ago, Ramanujan said:

Its philosophical. It is dangerous if applied by someone in 3rd world country or someone outside Anglosphere
Anything works in US

Mastery is a rare thing. In a 3rd world country is extra rare because you have more survival pressure. But also, the examples on the book are of people of different countries and different times in history. You can't really overlook that. Some of them didn't even have electricity.

[Ramanujan]

@Human Mint the average guy will get fucked really hard if he try to find passsion / purpose. there are not enough jobs. like if you find out your passion is physics and you are 27 years old, you are screwed. you need 5 years of bachelors and masters to get PHD. and even then there are no research opertunities in india. they are forced to go abroad. 

the odds are against you

 

i know mastery philosophy more than anyone in this forum , and believe me its garbage 

i wish i listened to stephen covey or david allen instead of other wannabe self help gurus

bob proctor or jack canfield or bryan tracy are also fine

Edited Sunday at 12:00 PM by Ramanujan

[Human Mint]

@Ramanujan There are a lot of caveats with the notion of passion. You kinda have to carve it out. I think you need more than 5 years, because the mind is very stubborn. And you have to do more side work than what a phd can offer you. Also academia can screw your passion too.

Passion is inherent to your condition as a human, you can't really avoid it. It is how you're able to get things done.

Purpose is more straithtfoward. When you go to the foodmarket you have the purpose of eating.

[Ramanujan]

1 hour ago, Human Mint said:

I think you need more than 5 years, because the mind is very stubborn. And you have to do more side work than what a phd can offer you. Also academia can screw your passion too.

what if the only job available for my passion , is in europe or USA and they wont accept anyone older than 30. by the time i complete masters i will be 35. what if they wont accept anyone more than age 30

 

 

1 hour ago, Human Mint said:

Passion is inherent to your condition as a human, you can't really avoid it. It is how you're able to get things done.

yup 

but it should be done on the side , if you live in 3rd world country

 

 

[Michal__]

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Michal__ He's coming with RECEIPTS

Let me know how you go! 

[Ramanujan]

@Michal__ how is it

 

[Ramanujan]

I expect it to be garbage.  It is not his area of expertise. Greene should stick to his area of expertise , ie social  skills. 

 

[Lyubov]

I haven't read his books but every time I have seen him speak I haven't really been moved at all. Someone in here called his style having a bit of a Machiavellian vibe to it and I would agree. I like writers with a warmth to them. I want to feel like the author is my mom or dad telling me a story. I don't have endless time and energy in my life to find out if every author is worth the time or not but idk I only give time to people who I see as profound, masters of that which they are writing about. I get the sense with him he is good at articulating things and maybe only 1-2 steps ahead of most of his audience. If I want more stage orange type content I'm set with Tony Robbins or Owen Cooke. Takes 30 minutes with them and my reading time can go to someone else who I think has written something more valuable. There really isn't anything new or profound most of these guys can say on stuff like seduction, power and getting what you want, or the like. And if I am reading on spirituality I'm looking for a radically different and mature perspectives than mine to produce original insights, nothing nondual, not any seeker neo advaita tinged stuff or stuff written by gurus, I'm looking for truly niche perspectives that use new language which offer unique awakens that don't fit into usual seeker language, not western perspectives I'm familiar with or mainstream Hindu / usual Buddhist / new age / Jungian stuff. I'm really drawn to Chinese spirituality and people who have been through hell and back like facing a very hard challenge in life. I like spiritual books that are artful, and that teach in koans, fables and poetry. Sounds like Greene went through something tough here so I would probably read this book of his before any of his others. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Lyubov

[QVx]

I think he has some very useful advice for the majority of people that still have a strong sense of self, in particular masculine energy. Feminine people and those with a very light sense of self won't find him appetising. 

[Leo Gura]

I wonder how deep vs shallow this book is.

It is a book supposedly about God. But does Robert Greene really understand what God is?

[LoneWonderer]

Yes I heard his youtube channel hype of his new book ( video below). It does not seem like it has anything to do with actually discovering god. It felt like all this new age healing and being present stuff. I don't know, but I wasn't left with a sense of excitement to pick up that book. Seems like the sort of stuff to me covered in Leo's early channel videos 8+ years ago. My impression was that it's just not that deep. I feel this book may be designed for people heavily plugged into the Maya dream who want to take their first steps into a different way of interaction with reality. Not really designed for folks who're quite far along the path already.

Rationalist discovers there's more to life and writes a book about it would seem like a better title.

No I haven't read the book, I could be completely wrong. Gimme a break will ya!

 

Edited 47 minutes ago by LoneWonderer

[Lyubov]

32 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

Yes I heard his youtube channel hype of his new book ( video below). It does not seem like it has anything to do with actually discovering god. It felt like all this new age healing and being present stuff. I don't know, but I wasn't left with a sense of excitement to pick up that book. Seems like the sort of stuff to me covered in Leo's early channel videos 8+ years ago. My impression was that it's just not that deep. I feel this book may be designed for people heavily plugged into the Maya dream who want to take their first steps into a different way of interaction with reality. Not really designed for folks who're quite far along the path already.

Rationalist discovers there's more to life and writes a book about it would seem like a better title.

No I haven't read the book, I could be completely wrong. Gimme a break will ya!

 

Of all his books (none of which I have read) this one at least sounds the most interesting. The part about him having to write by hand sounds interesting and I do like reading about people gaining insights from challenges in life. You can still learn a lot from other people's experiences if they wrote the book in their flow and with god in mind even if they don't match up to another expectation you have. Never the less I doubt I'll read it anytime soon, I have much bigger stuff in the works. 

[Leo Gura]

His books and ideas are generally high quality. But they are limited.

But if someone is overly into Robert Greene books, that's a red flag.

Edited 14 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Asayake]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

His books and ideas are generally high quality. But they are limited.

But if someone is overly into Robert Greene books, that's a red flag.

.I've noticed red pill manosphere type guys tend to be really into his books for some reason.