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Solipsism is actually not totally true

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8 hours ago, blankisomeone said:

@Carl-Richard
Because if I write in an inchoherent way, people don't understand and if people don't understand me then they won't benefit my wellbeing. The only reason I'm interested in practicing writing and speaking coherently is so that I'll be able to use this skill in a way that directly benefits my well being: physical, mental, emotional and social. That is the one and only reason everyone ever writes, thinks or does anything.

So you agree that philosophizing is consistent with ensuring your well-being, and you're doing it yourself, so why do you say you shouldn't do it? Are you talking about a specific form of philosophizing?

 

8 hours ago, blankisomeone said:

I have lost my job once and felt extremely anxious. Physically anxious because I was uncertain about how I'd meet my physical and social needs. Only one thing mattered at that point: how will I make new friends, how will I meet new people for a new job? And my life is a little bit more stable now but STILL that is the only thing in my mind for as long as I'm awake: how to keep these things running smoothly so I'm never again in that painful situation.

Sounds like you're getting fixated on something very specific (basic needs) because you were without them for a while. But you'll see that if you have these very things, you can still have issues. Take the recent case of RJ Mitte as an example, or other similar cases of successful people who seemed to get their basic needs met but still felt like ending themselves. I would say in the majority of these cases, the issues had to do with meaning (and if you want to be more or less general, it always has to do with that). Basic needs are basic. When they're covered, your focus moves over to something else.

Edited by Carl-Richard

Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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33 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

Again only one thing matters: meeting needs. Physical, social, emotional, mental. All of them. Consistently and predictably met.

How do you meet those needs?


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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You are infinite consciousness.

The mind is the experiencer that confuses itself with the bodily reactions.

The mind is there to manage your consciousness exploration, transmutation and transformation.

This includes shifting bodily reactions to aligned states. 

When the mind and body are aligned a healthy identity emerges, and when they are not, a less healthy one forms.

Everything else within is just the realisations in between, the training to bridge the gaps and the modest growth that results. 

That takes the longest, but it prevents the destination being taken for granted. 

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@blankisomeone

What evidence would you need to establish that every single person who dies by suicide has unmet basic needs?

What would count as evidence against your theory?

Edited by Natasha Tori Maru

It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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3 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

That's all beautiful. What did you have for lunch today?😄

A human addiction.

I'm as deliciously impoverished like all the rest of you.

Call me a drunk, call me a whore, call me Ghandi; its all in my bacon and egg roll, and I'll eat it, coz I'm whicked and nasty, but I make it all looks good in the crunch.

Ha.

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22 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

 

@Natasha Tori Maru

The truth is people decide to kill themselves because certain human needs of theirs have gone unmet and they feel hopeless that there's any way to get it met. There is no evidence against this truth.

what, do you think there's other reasons? I'd be happy to listen and consider.

So no evidence counters your theory? 

So it is impossible to falsify? You don't see a problem with this line of reasoning?

Edited by Natasha Tori Maru

It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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7 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

@Natasha Tori Maru

It seems to me like you have another theory which I would love to adopt as a counter theory. Is there another reason people commit suicide other than the one I have mentioned?

That's not what I want to do here. You need to have insight into this. Just reading the conversation that proceeded above I can see reason isn't enough to convince you. 

You need to investigate your beliefs and reasoning. How you came to this conclusion. 

 

 


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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The subject of solipsism isnt you, its God.

God = Infinity.

Your solipsism is Gods nature. Just like your intelligence is.

Edited by Sandroew

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27 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

@Natasha Tori Maru
Eye roll.

Disappointing, but not unexpected.

Have a look into:

- Causal claims 

- Universal generalisations

- Testing beliefs against counterexamples


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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37 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

I am TIRED of trying to just live my life and then have people annoy my mind with "oh but why is there something rather than nothing? What is solipiscism? What is the nature of this pen?" Bro for real, does this add to your happiness or is this just a coping mechanism to cope with unmet needs? This isn't even true spiritual progression!

For the vast majority, it's coping, fa sho.

How happy, easy-going, light-hearted, worry-free, and secure in one's survival is the average AO member? It's probably lower than average. I agree that this flavor of spirituality doesn't really do much to increase those things. Happiness is not to be found here. It's more about addiction to insight, and the effect or the utility of the insight is rarely even considered because the striving for and deriving the insight is the point.

Edited by Joshe

What if this is just fascination + identity + seriousness being inflated into universal importance?

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44 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

There's only one way to develop critical thinking: having eaten and gotten enough sleep FIRST. Basic human needs are still the most fundamental thing ever. There is NO arguing against this. I have had anxiety attack strong enough to KNOW that life is IMPOSSIBLE without having security and without having peace through having fundamental human needs properly met. There is NO WAY to do anything else here in physical life without having this secured.

I am TIRED of trying to just live my life and then have people annoy my mind with "oh but why is there something rather than nothing? What is solipiscism? What is the nature of this pen?" Bro for real, does this add to your happiness or is this just a coping mechanism to cope with unmet needs? This isn't even true spiritual progression!

People just have to admit they are monkeys with needs. Just admit it. You're unhappy to the degree that your needs are unmet.🥰

If you're unhappy just look at what is the developmental need you have been deprived of in this society that fundamentally doesn't care about your growth, go after it, meet it. Be satisfied. Be happy.

This is interesting.

Then what is your theory on:

  1. Why transcendence is a human need
  2. Why its not distributed equally

I'd argue that most people mess up both questions, including people that think they're good at answering them, so don't be too hard on yourself, its just an exercise for yourself to learn from if you want. 

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7 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

The vast majority of people who want "transcendence" are people in pain who have decided they can't do anything about it. They're hopeless about their pain. And so they're like yeah lemme transcend this crap. It's quite sad. It's like passive suicide. I know cuz I've been there/am there.

Trasncendence in its purest form would be something like being more spiritual, I guess?

The distinction between being thirsty and actually enjoying water.

There's other demographics as well just remember that.

7 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

But being more spiritual is different from being an armchair philosopher creating distractions with topics like solipicism and some other metaphysical topics.

But is this not a demographic too?

Every demographic is learning. 

That process though is a different subject to being annoyed with a particular way someone tries for transcendence, or seeks to teach others a similar path.

The same person can have many different styles, influences and actions too. 

It's wise to identify when one is getting taken away by one perspective over another outside of just merely chatting and debating about it however.

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13 hours ago, blankisomeone said:

@Thought Art
Even if solipisim is true it doesn't matter at all. Why do you care? There is only one thing which matter: your well being and of the people around you. How does it benefit you or the people around you to care about solipicism? It doesn't benefit anyone. It doesn't even benefit your spiritual progression because spiritual progression is emotional and solipisism does nothing...

eat shit sleep and socialize is 100% everything life is about, day and night everyday every second of the day 24/7

Well, that’s not relevant really to what I said but thanks. Solipsism isn’t about if or not it benefits you or your family it is not intended to be a utilitarian contemplation but one of truth seeking. The question isn’t if it’s useful but if it’s true. 


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3 hours ago, blankisomeone said:

There's only one way to develop critical thinking: having eaten and gotten enough sleep FIRST. Basic human needs are still the most fundamental thing ever.

I think the need for coherence is a basic human need. It goes under "mental" needs. I created a map for this.

What you call needs, how to meet them, and how to understand them in a larger systematic perspective, is what terms like "meaning", "holism", etc., is about. Thinking about these things can help you a long way in getting your needs met. Because you have a need for thinking about things, and it's part in knowing how to navigate and get those needs met.

Edited by Carl-Richard

Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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On 16/10/2026 at 8:31 PM, Meeksauce said:

Even psychedelics and all substances are literally placebo

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 

for fucks sake

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On 10/17/2026 at 2:31 AM, Meeksauce said:

Solipsism is just one necessary phase of life that you go through in this realm, nobody is even saying it has to be that way once you see through it. The limits are literally imaginary can be whatever you want. God isn't just some mechanical crystallization of your own mind, there's actually a being on the other side of it. And as they say, if you can make an atom that's no more difficult than making a universe.

Even psychedelics and all substances are literally placebo, they show you some truth and allow for a higher bandwidth of communication with God, but that's simply because you allow it to be that way in your mind. There's nothing stopping you from bringing the afterlife to you right now. You can literally rewrite the rules of your life, change history, see the future and fate of everyone around you, and quite literally do whatever you want. God made it so that you have limited knowledge for a reason - you couldn't really have a human life if you knew everything. Whatever humanity thinks it knows about God, is just a blip on a desert island. No matter how crazy of visuals you're seeing on a trip, that's literally always just visual content within your imagination and not actually representative of the actual truth.

God made it so that communicating with incarnations in other timelines is impossible - not by some rule written down somewhere, but by absolute tautology. Literally the concept of a biological being is something totally unprecedented and only exists in this dimension. Think about how unbelievably profound that is. Not only that but you can literally raise people from the dead, that never existed, so to speak. This is gonna sound crazy but God literally can make it to where other people literally become conscious through you and experience what it's like to be you through your eyes. That's profound love. But the kicker is they actually have their own sovereign consciousness at the same time. I'm telling you guys. The rules can be rewritten.

The philosopher's stone is real. Leo, I will make you conscious one day. Mark my words.

@Meeksauce You guys like to spew bullshit a lot.

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Without psychedelics solipsism is relegated to philosophy only, to the realm of thought exclusively.  

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1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Without psychedelics solipsism is relegated to philosophy only, to the realm of thought exclusively.  

I think Dave knows solipsism, and he hasn't done psychedelics yet.

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5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I think Dave knows solipsism, and he hasn't done psychedelics yet.

I’m only sharing from my own experience.  I’m not discounting anyone else’s experience.  

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You don't need psychedelics and they cant get you all the way there anyway.

What they offer is a glimpse of what is available to the faithful.

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