Flock Cameras: For or Against?

[r0ckyreed]

I go back and forth on this. I don’t feel like I have a strong opinion either way. Flock has solved a lot of crimes that would have been harder to solve without it. But Flock has also been misused and there is some concern over how much power should we give the government over the individual.

There is no expectation of privacy in public. People can film you without your permission and there are already cameras at stoplights and speed cameras.

Flock isn’t just a camera, it is linked to AI and I’m not sure the extent of how much one’s personal information will be involved. We have the 2nd amendment right to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Democracy is fragile. Flock has the potential to give the government more power to exploit its citizens. Just a thought.

But if we are to ban Flock, then the logic follows that stoplight and speed cameras should be outlawed. Filming in public is a first amendment right, but maybe we need to question this? 

I think most people are overreacting to Flock even though their concerns are valid. I’m still not sure where I stand, but I may be leaning towards pro Flock.

What do you think about Flock?

 

Edited Friday at 09:28 PM by r0ckyreed

[cetus]

George Orwell first talked an all -seeing surveillance state called "Big Brother" in 1949.

Will it someday come to that? I don't know.  But I am glad they are putting cameras on school buses to catch people that ignore the flashing stop lights when children are crossing the road.

[r0ckyreed]

3 hours ago, cetus said:

George Orwell first talked an all -seeing surveillance state called "Big Brother" in 1949.

Will it someday come to that? I don't know.  But I am glad they are putting cameras on school buses to catch people that ignore the flashing stop lights when children are crossing the road.

Some of those cameras have use like in certain buildings. But speed cameras are ridiculous. We gotta draw the line somewhere.

I don’t think we should give the government that much control. Flock is already thinking of expanding to drones. 

We should be able to vote and consent to this. What is stopping the government from putting cameras in our houses? Our phones are already being tapped into.

[Salvijus]

[Elliott]

I think flock is great, for criminals, just put someone else's plate numbers on your car when you want to crime and you can do whatever you want

 

Lol

[r0ckyreed]

On 10/3/2026 at 2:01 AM, Salvijus said:

Lol 😂 

[Salvijus]

On 2026-10-03 at 0:23 AM, r0ckyreed said:

Flock has the potential to give the government more power to exploit its citizens.

It's especially a problem when the Epstain class psycho satanists are in control of the US government. 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Salvijus

[Joshe]

On 10/2/2026 at 5:23 PM, r0ckyreed said:

Flock has the potential to give the government more power to exploit its citizens.

Not just the citizens, but their enemies, and the whole of society. 

My biggest concern is it would lead to an enormous concentration of wealth and power. 

Check this shit out:

It's hard to fathom all the ways they could use it to acquire more resources and power.

Imagine having 24/7 feeds monitoring hundreds of thousands of businesses. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Joshe

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Imagine if Palantir got it's filthy hands on this shit in some sort of horrific merge.

Flock:        reality = data 

Palantir:   data = intelligence 

Some fucking Orwellian shit. Human misuse as well. 

[Leo Gura]

I like to keep a Flock in my toilet. Give them a show.

[Elliott]

8 hours ago, Salvijus said:

It's especially a problem when the Epstain class psycho satanists are in control of the US government. 

 

I wish progressives would extend this realization to nationalized healthcare and elections(eliminating electoral college)

[Salvijus]

3 hours ago, Elliott said:

I wish progressives would extend this realization to nationalized healthcare and elections 

Progressives are aware of the concerns regarding nationalized healthcare system. It's just that the AI based survailance thing is arguably a much bigger, realistic concern and threat to your liberty right now. Whearas the risks with nationalized healthcare is still manageable. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Salvijus

[AerisVahnEphelia]

Everywhere, and everyone all around the internet shall have access to all of them too, make the panopticon real !

[trenton]

It looks like the incentive structure for mass surveillance is strong enough that it is probably going to continue to happen whether we like it or not. My concern is that mass surveillance will not be applied equally to the rich and powerful and this exploit of the justice system continues and is exacerbated by this. Hunting down criminals starts to feel performative rather than having substantial justice.

[Elliott]

These things should actually make our current corrupt two-tiered system more just. Although, I'm not a proponent because I think they're a waste of resources.

 

I'm actually not concerned about it. I think you guys are a little neurotic about massive governments effectively conspiring against you. It would require a sophisticated, well organized criminal government structure to weaponize these things against innocent citizens.

 

Palantir, anyone afraid of Palantir should research the system. Palantir tags every query and leaves a chain tracing back the researchers actions, you can see if someone is weaponizing the justice system, which is illegal on the part of the investigator.

The Watcher is documented under Palantir, they never were before.

 

Think of before any documentation, the sheriff could get away with most anything. Now we have civillian video and other things that can more accurately determine the actual criminal and exclude others. They dont need this to create anymore of a two-tiered system. It could be used for weaponizing justice, but the Palantir system has a check in place for that, and if you have a corrupt government to begin with that's the actual problem. If trump could get people to hack palantir; he can get people to create ai video evidence against you or whatever else, he can have nsa track everything about you.

It does not seem necessary for me though.

 

One more thing...

 It can stop mass shootings 🤷

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Elliott

[Yimpa]

If the government has access to spy on us, then we should have access to spy on the government. 

[Salvijus]

40 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I think you guys are a little neurotic about massive governments effectively conspiring against you.

The other side would say you're a little naive if you think they don't. 

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

The other side would say you're a little naive if you think they don't. 

That's not a reasonable explanation.  À la; neurotic

Edited 2 hours ago by Elliott

[Salvijus]

29 minutes ago, Elliott said:

That's not a reasonable explanation.  À la; neurotic

My guess is you don't even know what their reasoning is to begin with. À la; hubris. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Salvijus

[Yimpa]

They can study my every move, but little do they know I am actually metaphysical