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Is Leo Gura awake or not?

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58 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

think his ability to deliver the message in a modern context without any riddles or obfuscations which flies over most seekers even though several Eastern religions explicitly say the same thing, namely Hinduism. 

I don't know why other people haven't just come out and said it so matter of factly or in plain English.

There is always a sort of spiritual veneer, that mystifies the description in some sense.

I think Leo is the only guy that just flat out said it. Maybe it's because he has the benefit of speaking to a modern audience that is alive at the same time as him. 

A thing is true because it’s true , not because Leo says it . A thing is false because it’s false , not because Leo denies it . 
if solipsism is true then there is no point of talking to others . Because others are inert like doors . Would you talk to the wall ? No because it can’t hear you . 
so far what’s Leo’s proof of solipsism ? “Take  5 meo 100 times , not 78” . And lose your mind or in worst cases die .  I mean …… 

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“God is the Alpha Omega .. the beginning-less  beginning and the endless end . 
He is the first without start . He is the last without end . He is the manifest actuality ..nothing covers him . He is the most hidden essence  ..nothing can grasp him .. nothing below him or more subtle than him .The ego is the belief I’m separate from god . Because being god is too good to be true .No matter how dark it gets or difficult it gets ..no matter how long it is going to take .. my destiny is the infinite happiness and infinite joy and love as the best thing ever ..God .  “

-that’s a me .

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1 hour ago, Davino said:

Leo has not had the Cessation type of Awakening

@Leo Gura Is this true?


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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Whatever . Not in the mood for trouble-making lol

“God is the Alpha Omega .. the beginning-less  beginning and the endless end . 
He is the first without start . He is the last without end . He is the manifest actuality ..nothing covers him . He is the most hidden essence  ..nothing can grasp him .. nothing below him or more subtle than him .The ego is the belief I’m separate from god . Because being god is too good to be true .No matter how dark it gets or difficult it gets ..no matter how long it is going to take .. my destiny is the infinite happiness and infinite joy and love as the best thing ever ..God .  “

-that’s a me .

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I think it's a Buddhist mistake to define awakening as detachment from the dream. Leo warned about this years ago.

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1 hour ago, Someone here said:

A thing is true because it’s true , not because Leo says it . A thing is false because it’s false , not because Leo denies it . 
if solipsism is true then there is no point of talking to others . Because others are inert like doors . Would you talk to the wall ? No because it can’t hear you.

There's practical value in talking to others even if you believe they aren't conscious like you. In video games, you talk to various NPCs to get what you want/need to win the game.

Not to say I believe in solipsism, but that the logic holds as long as the belief is held. You can believe in solipsism and talk to others. But what you can't do is believe in solipsism and believe that others exist. That would be a contradiction.

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