Sober Awakening Experience

[Nemra]

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Dreams at night — when reality goes haywire for some time after getting bored of stability. 😄

I'm not being dragged into another reality; reality transforms in another way.

It's really profound when you think of nightly dreams as a continuation of waking reality and vice versa, not being dropped into another reality, as it implies that you are some entity that is inside that reality.

The idea that dreams happen in your sleep is misleading.

It's really cozy when you believe that dreams are sort of a fake reality that happens in your brain in your waking reality. Man, what a construction. That's like the feeling you get when a war happens in another country, but you are safe enough to not care about it.

Crazy things happen in your nightly dreams, you die, kill someone, fly in the sky, etc. And yet you come back as a human! All of that is real as hell without even needing your waking reality's brain!

It's like when you decide to have fun after your studies.

It really gets on my nerves when people say that nightly dreams tell you something about your waking life; they are meant to be interpreted symbolically. Those people don't appreciate the realness of it as they still believe that it's less real and it happens outside of one's waking reality. They even have books that list what it means when something happens in your dreams. 🥴

Also, I used to dismiss it when people mentioned having an awakening within their nightly dreams.

Awakenings experienced in your nightly dreams are as real as those in your waking reality and can potentially be even more profound!

Edited September 16 by Nemra

[Yimpa]

@Nemra mhm!

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“We have forgotten the age-old fact that God speaks chiefly through dreams and visions.” -Carl Jung

 

[cetus]

 

[Nemra]

3 hours ago, cetus said:

 

I used to listen to him often.

I think he knows it. Even though he doesn't tell them that reality transforms from "waking reality" to "nightly dream", which is radical.

He would have nailed it if he told them that there is no distinction between waking reality and nightly dreams in terms of realness; it's a construction.

Edited September 16 by Nemra

[Yimpa]

Hyper sobriety is the ki to all of this. Become the substanceless subtance. 

[Alex_R]

When I was having a high baseline level of conciousness i was able to realize no-self on high doses of caffeine + fasting

[Yimpa]

9 minutes ago, Alex_R said:

When I was having a high baseline level of conciousness i was able to realize no-self on high doses of caffeine + fasting

I haven’t had caffeine in a long time. I will try reincorporating it back inn and see how it affects my consciousness.

[PenguinPablo]

On 9/19/2026 at 7:25 PM, Alex_R said:

When I was having a high baseline level of conciousness i was able to realize no-self on high doses of caffeine + fasting

Interesting yeah when I do caffeine it puts me in what Leo calls God mode pretty much instantly where I recognize myself as the creator imagining all of reality. Without it basically I'm at the mercy of my thoughts, emotional volatility and self consciousness, as well as a lack of piercing awareness.

[Mellowmarsh]

Awakening can mean different things to different people.

Awakening realisation for me personally was the obvious recognition that there’s an ever present awareness present during both deep dreamless and dreaming sleep, even though there is no mind or conscious awareness of ever being asleep whilst asleep because the conscious mind has switched off. The switched off conscious mind is unaware of the awareness that is always present in both dreaming and deep dreamless sleep and only becomes conscious of this ever present awareness when it switches on becoming conscious of having been asleep. This happens only upon awakening from the sleep.

 That’s what awakening is in my personal opinion.. 
 

This awakening can be recognised without the use of any mind altering substances. Awakening then is simply our true nature, and no one is required to reach it, achieve it, or teach it, it’s simply always what we already are in every waking and sleeping moment. 

[Mellowmarsh]

On 08/09/2026 at 8:31 PM, Breakingthewall said:

the fragmented human mind.

That which appears to be fragmented is never fragmented.

 

Awareness cannot know awareness because it is Awareness , one without a second. The knowing is the known and the known is the knowing. And never the Twain meet. Fragmentation is an illusion as there’s zero gap between the knowing and the known. 

[Joseph Maynor]

Travel a lot and try to have as many experiences as possible.  

[Mellowmarsh]

Nothing ever moved. Everything is already here right now in the infinite space of imagination that is everywhere at once.

[Wilhelm44]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Everything is already here right now in the infinite space of imagination that is everywhere at once.

I'm beginning to understand Jim's use of the word 'anarchy'  

[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I'm beginning to understand Jim's use of the word 'anarchy'  

Jim’s amazing. I love listening to him. Notice how effortless his talks are. There’s no tension, there’s just an oozing outpouring of pure immediate clarity.
 

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Jim’s amazing. I love listening to him. Notice how effortless his talks are. There’s no tension, there’s just an oozing outpouring of pure immediate clarity.
 

Quite magical how every intro has the same message, but is literally never expressed in the same way twice.

[Mellowmarsh]

52 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Quite magical how every intro has the same message, but is literally never expressed in the same way twice.

Yes, and I believe that’s what everyone does, who is interested in nondual message, they describe the same idea in multiple different ways, and most are aligned but some descriptions can seem contradictory and oxymoronic. 

[Wilhelm44]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

oxymoronic.

Tim Cliss has a book called This Deafening Silence.

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

That which appears to be fragmented is never fragmented.

 

Awareness cannot know awareness because it is Awareness , one without a second. The knowing is the known and the known is the knowing. And never the Twain meet. Fragmentation is an illusion as there’s zero gap between the knowing and the known. 

What is awareness? Is it something? Like a property of the reality? The reality itself? Where is the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness? 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

What is awareness? Is it something? Like a property of the reality? The reality itself? Where is the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness? 

That is the one question to all y( our) answers. 

[kavaris]

6 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Travel a lot and try to have as many experiences as possible.  

Yous have alot more exp., w/le superorganism of LIFE ( as well as anyone whos 40-50 Years of wise age)

You see, im over here in 37-39 land, where everyone hates me, and i literally dont fit anywhere, and often told to "just die!" with conviction. Or other comments im plagued by, with utter conviction behind them...

Where im like "Oh.... kaaaayyyyy... " can i get the nice gifts  like those gifted by Joseph? Hey, its what i wonder EVERY day. Every year. Maybe every minute (okay imbeing rediculousness now, ha)