non-dual baseline

[PolyPeter]

I want to share something that is happening to me as I continue my human life.

 

I've reached enlightenment and the implications for myself have been immense. 

I live every second as it was the first and the last. VERY intensely. yet from a calm ever present and solid consciousness.

I'm aware of what awareness is. at all fucking times.

the lived experience of recognizing the unity throughout all the elements of experience, while still having some inertia from my human habits, is something that for myself turned out to be an extremeley isolating situation.

i have to tone myself down in every fucking conversation because the receiver is so caught up in duality that my ideas don't even get past the front door

 

right now i'm so fucking angry 

and behind the anger there is sadness

 

sadness of recognizing things as they actually are and looking at everyone make the most stupid mistakes due to the lack of the understanding that we are one single reality being expresssed thrugh multiple locus, throughout the entire universe

the sadness comes from not being able to communicate that the curiosity of trying to understand reality is what led me to this place. not leo, not rupert spira, not something somebody said.

I don't think this (me being angry and sad) is gonna be a permanent situation. since i can also see that the pain comes from wanting other people and beings to know that we are all one, which has little to do with my own process of realization. and i know my way out of this state. but it feels right to share this. 

 

is like waking up from a dream, just to come back to the dreamed character, that is now fully aware at all times that all of the dream, and trying to tell somebody else in the dream that "appears" to be awake but isnt. fuck, fuck fuck !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

what i think i need: compassion and deeper understanding into how FORM is being imagined by myself. 

 

I'm a very DIY human, therefore, this entire thing falls directly into the category of things that have nothing (or very little) to do with my doing.

The only thing i think i can do for others is point. pointers pointers pointers. and even then, pointers sometimes dont work. 

 

im suspicious about my previous mental habits. the human me has been quite neurotic and mental throughout my life, and it's got some inertia to it. 

 

What would anyone reccomend me doing for dealing with my new level of understanding?

I want to make peace with the situation we are finding ourselves in as a species, but there's something in between. and from inside i can't see clearly what it is yet.

Thanks for reading.

Edited 16 hours ago by PolyPeter

[Carl-Richard]

You gotta change society to what you want it to be.

Edited 15 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Sugarcoat]

Right now in this moment, do you have any sense of self? 

Im not asking for my own sake here

[AtmanIsBrahman]

I think you have to accept that being into spirituality with the depth that many of us are on this forum is extremely uncommon. It’s likely genetic, as Leo always repeats. Just like you can’t blame people for not being 7 feet tall, you can’t blame them for not caring about truth.

There are also a number of life circumstances that have to line up perfectly for someone to do spirituality. Having a good childhood, education, being encouraged to think independently, seeking out philosophical and spiritual knowledge, finding the right sources (Leo).

Edited 15 hours ago by AtmanIsBrahman

[PolyPeter]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

You gotta change society to what you want it to be.

hum, this is what i would like, but seems like a wave trying to steer the entire ocean. 

How would you think this can be possible, without forcing anything onto anybody? 

[PolyPeter]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Right now in this moment, do you have any sense of self? 

what do you mean exactly 😭?
 

i close my eyes and there is nothing

a nothing that is

not just "nothing" in the usual vacuum of space sense.

nothing as in the "unlimited infinity" sense

 

 

[PolyPeter]

1 hour ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

I think you have to accept that being into spirituality with the depth that many of us are on this forum is extremely uncommon. It’s likely genetic, as Leo always repeats. Just like you can’t blame people for not being 7 feet tall, you can’t blame them for not caring about truth.

yes, my intuition also tells me it's about accepting the uncommon nature of what i created for myself. 

somehow it still hurts that it is very uncommon

have you been able to accept this and also feel good in your human? or is there still tension of some sorts

 

1 hour ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

There are also a number of life circumstances that have to line up perfectly for someone to do spirituality

oh I can see this very clearly. but again, we are about  8,313,318,950 humans on the planet (i just looked it up) right now

why is it that this conditions are not there more often?

I thought about this a little bit. on one hand, if you are too busy surviving human life, there is no space for this inquiry. on the other hand, if you are born rich, there is space for this work, but the comfort of just living a "rich life" (whatever that means) might be also getting in the way.

So, the conditions we are talking about are not specific, but VEEEEERY very specific and unusual.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, PolyPeter said:

hum, this is what i would like, but seems like a wave trying to steer the entire ocean. 

How would you think this can be possible, without forcing anything onto anybody? 

Change science, education systems, politics. Working at something for many years produces results. The everyday person is concerned about getting a check and eating food and going on a holiday. A person with a vision works towards a goal and gets things done.

 

[PolyPeter]

33 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

A person with a vision works towards a goal and gets things done.

this is nice.  

thanks.

I will read the other thread of yours. 

[Yimpa]

I think there needs to come a full circle moment where the illusion and Truth are no longer distinct. So we aren’t fighting others, instead understanding their POV. Go out and do human games while knowing it’s ultimately meaningless and not needing to tell anyone that it’s a dream.

Thanks for sharing! 

[PolyPeter]

2 hours ago, Yimpa said:

knowing it’s ultimately meaningless and not needing

i'm past the full circle moment 

And I'm also doing human things, working, studying, going out, petting my cat.

that's why i think that i thought writing here, maybe someone happened to be in a similar situation at some point.

The part where you said ultimately meaningless sort of struck me. like there is something misleading about it. 

if reality is a dream and we are in this particular dream, it doesn't make it any less functionally real.

a hand burns if you set it on fire. that are the rules of this particular dream right now and here. maybe i'm getting your idea wrong, but i think that saying that something is ultimately meaningless doesn't imply that it is meaningless when you are inside a reality with a VERY specific and awesome configuration, like this one. I mean, have you thought of what are the odds that at some point reality came to this particular state right now? and all the things that needed to occur just for us to be talking rn? deeply contemplate this question, and maybe the "ultimatley meaningless" situation gets uno-reversed into "how the hell is this reality possible!!!!! pure wizardy!", and also at the same time realizing that you are the one creating it and dreaming it. there is nothing meaningless about that.

and because it is no meaningless, the idea of sharing the notion that this is a shared dream, will certainly push in the direction of recognizing both the infinity nature of consciousness and appreciate to the max the finitude of appeareance

appearance is not just random shit going on! it has deeeeep intelligence & love embedded within its structure.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by PolyPeter

[VeganAwake]

6 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

What would anyone reccomend me doing for dealing with my new level of understanding?

I would recommend not trying to point out what you understand to people unless they specifically ask you your perspective. It can come off as desperate and needy.

Instead, just enjoy life and use what you understand to help bring more love and joy into people's lives. This will influence people to understand you way more than anything else guaranteed. 

Find someone who loves you back and spread it like wildfire 

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, PolyPeter said:

gets uno-reversed

my favorite card game

[Yimpa]

Here is a perfect example of maya. 2 and a half hours of beauty that is ultimately profoundly meaningless. No need to convince this Scott character that he is God. He exists in my own imagination!

 

[Breakingthewall]

12 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

sadness of recognizing things as they actually are and looking at everyone make the most stupid mistakes due to the lack of the understanding that we are one single reality being expresssed thrugh multiple locus, throughout the entire universe

Yeah, the reality, manifested as humans, is stupid. It should be different, and we, the enlightened people, know it. We are much smarter than the stupid reality, that is always doing stupid things. 

12 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

have to tone myself down in every fucking conversation because the receiver is so caught up in duality that my ideas don't even get past the front door

Yeah it's sad to talk with that stupid people who don't know that everything is consciousness and infinite love and that you are dreaming everything. Would be better to be in an ashram where only people who knows the absolute truth is admitted, not those inferior ignorants. 

12 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

right now i'm so fucking angry 

and behind the anger there is sadness

 

 

12 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

I've reached enlightenment and the implications for myself have been immense. 

Yeah sounds like enlightenment 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Sugarcoat]

11 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

what do you mean exactly 😭?
 

i close my eyes and there is nothing

a nothing that is

not just "nothing" in the usual vacuum of space sense.

nothing as in the "unlimited infinity" sense

 

 

I asked very very simple question, if you don’t understand it, suggests to me your mind is too complex for such simplicity. 
Why you answer my question but act like you didn’t understand it?

Edited 2 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Eskilon]

How is your experience of sleep? Do you sleep? Is it different, how so?