The Tension Before the Approach

[Miguel1]

2 hours ago, Zenterus said:

Can he get results? Sure. But I personally dont consider him an authority. I made a thread a little while ago where RSD Jeffy and Luke exposed that Owens game is terrible. Too polarizing, too over the top and gets him constantly blown out and thrown out of venues because he lacks social calibration.

Owen gets results by massive volume and playing the long game:

Hosting parties and networking etc. where he is seen as a big authoritative figure. He also needs rich friends to host massive parties with.

For same day / night pulls, he is terrible.

He is basically like a club promoter but he takes the girls from the club and invites into his own party where he is the star.

This is not a realistic approach for most people getting into pick up.

At the end of the day, Owen is physically way too unattractive for game to help him much. His only choice really is to do what he does, and hypnotize some girls to fall hard into his frame and lifestyle. That’s why he pushes frame so hard. The only way for him to get attraction is if manages to get some girls to lose all sensemaking.

Edited 3 hours ago by Miguel1

[Andrey]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Olaf Dude, Owen is the biggest creepy loser. Lol

 

[AION]

55 minutes ago, Valach said:

You could keep the condescending approach to yourself and do some self inquiry before you respond.

This is not how you are going to get laid. 

[Valach]

38 minutes ago, AION said:

This is not how you are going to get laid. 

If that is all you care about, enjoy life I guess.

[Something Funny]

1 hour ago, AION said:

This is not how you are going to get laid. 

This is not how you are going to learn Chinese.

[LifeEnjoyer]

Guys check out Owen’s Last Game program. He explains why he’s so polarizing there. 

It’s basically ‘Purple Cow’ from Seth Godin

[Raze]

23 minutes ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

Guys check out Owen’s Last Game program. He explains why he’s so polarizing there. 

It’s basically ‘Purple Cow’ from Seth Godin

That program was basically just some unreleased YouTube videos, it was pretty lame.

Edited 32 minutes ago by Raze

[hundreth]

I have to level with some of y'all. You take this too seriously and are too deep down the rabbit hole consuming and following this PUA community content. I'm not saying its not useful to learn some pick up and game, but diminishing returns hit extremely fast here.

90% of it is just the push to do approaches. Another 5% are the basics of direct approach vs non direct. The last 5% are all of these specifics the dating coaches might impart on you. All of those little nuggets of knowledge, you can't really integrate them. Its too many small disconnected threads and competing ideologies. 

The only way to get better is to date and spend more time with women. Even more importantly, to spend more time improving and living your life. 

You aren't going to get better at game by consuming more of this content. Take the basic messages, then go live your life and develop your own style. Its like that old Alan Watts adage: when you get the message hang up the phone.