I’m scared of how much addictions can be disgustingly destructive

[Asia P]

9 hours ago, Hojo said:

The only reason I understould God on mushrooms is because I saw God while drinking alcohol.

The only problem is people don't go hard enough. When you think you gunna die, keep going.

Ego is saying stop! 

Every substance at hight dose in theory can make you see god. It is near death experience.  But hard drugs leave you with a sense of emptiness and addiction and misery.  That is why psychedelics are so miracolous. 
i would never recommend anyone to drink alcohol to see god. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Asia P

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

I don't see where the problem lies. Trying to become a puritan is a fools game in my opinion, which is why I'm not religious despite also not being a wokietard

[bazera]

Non-addicts often underestimate how hard it is to break addicitons. It's a very humbling experience when you yourself get addicted to some unhealthy substance / behavior, then trying quitting and finding out that you can't. 

Then you deside to take much more responsibility for it, and sooner or later (often much later) you overcome it. But the lesson stays for the lifetime.

[Asayake]

16 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Asia P he dosent want you to do them because that's how you become free. This is mirrored world. Whatever society tells you not to do will reveal God.

If society tells you something is bad you know its good and satan is hiding you from it.

So you’re saying heroin & meth are good and satan is trying to prevent me from becoming a homeless junkie whos a burden to my family?

[LordFall]

17 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Your profile picture makes me want to pretend to be interested in your topic just to simp.

You should focus on your dating life instead of posting weird stuff to women on the forum. We've talked about this, I thought you were working on your Hinge. You didn't update us after I predicted that the one date you liked wouldn't go turn to much because abundance takes time. 

17 hours ago, Hojo said:

Then you got your answer do har drugs overcome your fear by being addicted. Satan says dont do drugs kids.  God says do whatever you want you are free.

Isn't it weird that drugs make you see God? Thats why they do them because they do the drugs and feel God.

How can God be in the drug?

I think we can perhaps safely say that this is terrible advice. You're for one conflating psychedelics to hard drugs. Also if you are depressed and nihilistic and don't see value in life before taking drugs don't project that advice unto others. It's toxic. That's what she is afraid of, toxicity and you tell her to just jump straight in. What crazy and dangerous advice. 

It's not a crazy thing to want to experience a life of wellbeing void of toxic substances and relations. I think perhaps you're projecting your identity of feeling rejected by women to her dumping her boyfriend for having low quality behaviours and you're trying to gaslight her into thinking she's the problem.

I find it infuriating to read and I'm surprised I'm the first one to call you out on it. I reported your comment to @Leo Gura and the mods, get some therapy my friend. You are dangerously miss applying his teachings to gaslight and advocate self-harm due to your unhealed shadow in my opinion. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall

[Hojo]

7 hours ago, Asia P said:

Every substance at hight dose in theory can make you see god. It is near death experience.  But hard drugs leave you with a sense of emptiness and addiction and misery.  That is why psychedelics are so miracolous. 
i would never recommend anyone to drink alcohol to see god. 

The goal is to become empty. Devoid of everything, lose everything. Its the souls high intelligence.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Hojo]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

You should focus on your dating life instead of posting weird stuff to women on the forum. We've talked about this, I thought you were working on your Hinge. You didn't update us after I predicted that the one date you liked wouldn't go turn to much because abundance takes time. 

I think we can perhaps safely say that this is terrible advice. You're for one conflating psychedelics to hard drugs. Also if you are depressed and nihilistic and don't see value in life before taking drugs don't project that advice unto others. It's toxic. That's what she is afraid of, toxicity and you tell her to just jump straight in. What crazy and dangerous advice. 

It's not a crazy thing to want to experience a life of wellbeing void of toxic substances and relations. I think perhaps you're projecting your identity of feeling rejected by women to her dumping her boyfriend for having low quality behaviours and you're trying to gaslight her into thinking she's the problem.

I find it infuriating to read and I'm surprised I'm the first one to call you out on it. I reported your comment to @Leo Gura and the mods, get some therapy my friend. You are dangerously miss applying his teachings to gaslight and advocate self-harm due to your unhealed shadow in my opinion. 

Projection, you hate junkies, gods people.

I dont need advice from you you are spiritually bankrupt.

Junkies and alcoholics are doing something you and them dont know.

Its a dangerous path but its worth the pay off, if it can be achieved.

They are braver than you can ever be.

You have the most perverted disgusting mind I have seen on this forum.

I respect them just stay away from me while you are doing it.

They find a drug where they can stare at the void to see God and awaken.

They cannot do that in this society and in their situation. Its not an accident. Its Gods intelligence.

Its not a want, its a need.

This isnt advice from someone who is depressed or nihilistic this is coming from someone who came out the other side.

Without abusing alcohol to an extreme, I wouldnt have understood God when I saw it. It was a necessity to do.

You cant go down a wrong path, some are harder.

You can sit from your fictional ivory tower and throw shade but one day you will be in that situation good luck.

Everything about your life seems made up.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

I don't hate junkies. My ex had serious hard drug addiction issues so I've seen first hand the harm that it did to her and to me by proxy. Separating yourself from individuals that are dealing with issues that you cannot solve is not hate, it's self-love and healthy boundaries.

What you are doing to OP is unintentional(I hope) textbook abuse. DARVO (an acronym for "Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender") is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as abusers, narcissists, or sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior.[1] Research indicates that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.[2][3][4]

Glorifying active addiction and telling vulnerable people that destroying their lives with hard drugs is 'bravery' proves every single point I just made about your shadow. I'll let Leo and the mods take it from here.

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[Sugarcoat]

37 minutes ago, Hojo said:

You have the most perverted disgusting mind I have seen on this forum.

No you have 

[Asia P]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

The goal is to become empty. Devoid of everything, lose everything. Its the souls high intelligence.

There is no goal

[Jordan of the Shire]

Ideas and concepts are a frame or view. It's possible to see this way, or another way, but the truth behind things lies in the underlying undulations behind thought and within this consciousness. 

When you frame things in the way you have, it is fine, but also, it can be too serious. There is contraction. See if you can notice these contractions in your awareness, and underlying thoughts and concepts. 

It is enough to soften in relationship to contraction - this too is metta, loving-kindness and leads to compassion for sentient beings, and is a loving action in itself. But without the contraction on good and evil. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Jordan of the Shire]

On the topic of addiction,

It's clear to me that we are all addicts. In practice, in letting go, when you release your attachments, the energy invested into those attachments has nowhere to go, so it exists in a kind of grey zone before it can be transmuted or given to something else. I've learned this recently. Things like the dark night of the soul, or different integration periods seem to resonate with this, where after deep releases there can be periods of withdraw, and lower states. 

The process of spiritual development is kinda like recovering from the addiction of whatever we falsely rely on for a sense of hopeful permanence. Upon realizing these things are not for sure or continuous. We become more free, energy comes back, reality is less distorted with views and ideas, and impressions, and we can be more clean of clutter in ourselves. Then the dao gradually comes into focus. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, LordFall said:

You should focus on your dating life instead of posting weird stuff to women on the forum.
 

That's my usual sense of humor if you don't like it that's not my problem.

3 hours ago, LordFall said:

We've talked about this, I thought you were working on your Hinge. You didn't update us after I predicted that the one date you liked wouldn't go turn to much because abundance takes time. 
 

I'm already talking to a girl who's great so there's no point in having a Hinge account now; it would be playing with people and potentially hurting them.

I also saw that I could relatively easily find girls who suited me without having to go through the inorganic process of Hinge.