50 000 migrants storm Spain through its African territory Ceuta

[Basman]

Part of the problem is that illegitimate migrants think that they stand a chance. It's a soft system. Try that shit anywhere else you might not even get the chance to just walk back home, like 25k of those Morocco ended up doing when there was no accommodation miraculously waiting for them. 

There's a tension between human rights and border control that needs to be negotiated. I err towards control of the border as I don't think the alternative is politically viable. You can't have a state who's borders people feel are insecure. It's the crux of liberalism, how loosening of restrictions tends to lead to instability and fragmentation. Then you get hordes of people risking their lives rushing a border for no realistic gain. 57 have already died during this picnic. Shouldn't have happened in the first place.

It is interesting to note how the vibe has changed since the 2010s on migration. It's seen much more as a nuisance now politically.

Edited 3 hours ago by Basman

[Apparition of Jack]

Here’s a similar (albeit much smaller) instance of forced migrant crossings by Belarus in 2021.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/lukashenko-tells-migrants-belarus-poland-border-he-wont-make-them-go-home-2021-11-26/
 

And another source suggesting this was orchestrated:

[Nivsch]

3 hours ago, Heaven said:

You saying Israel might organized that is pure speculation and creating more hate towards Israelis and Jewish people which caused the Holocaust. Be careful making false claims like that.

The irony is that the same mindset many people accuse Israel of holding towards strangers is the one they themselves hold towards Israelis when they generalize like that. At the level of mindset and psychology they are operating from the same place.

Edited 2 hours ago by Nivsch

[enchanted]

What on earth is Spain doing in Africa? Lol

[Basman]

Just now, enchanted said:

What on earth is Spain doing in Africa? Lol

What is Africa doing in Spain?

[enchanted]

6 minutes ago, Basman said:

What is Africa doing in Spain?

That makes no sense. Africa is a continent so it can't be in Spain.

[ArcticGong]

Us humans and  our geopolitical drama🤷🏾‍♂️.

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, enchanted said:

What on earth is Spain doing in Africa? Lol

The Strait of Gibraltar has lead so many fun times in history. It's only about 14 KM and the shortest point between Europe and Africa so it's served for mutual conquest from both territories many time in human history. My personal favorite is Hannibal sailing war  elephants across it and then traversing the Alps to attack the Roman Republic in the 3rd century BC. Spain was conquered by the Moors and was Islamic for almost 800 years from 711 to 1492. The current cities Spanish cities in Africa of Ceuta and Melilla come from their counter expansion back in the 15th century. The people from there have lived there for hundreds of years, calling it imperialism at this point is a bit silly in my view. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall