1 Dating Coach vs 20 Manosphere (ft. Mark Manson)

[LordFall]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I agree. 

Lordfall has good intentions, but his rhetoric often works against him. This sort of speaking pattern is low efficiency for delivering a message and often projects frustration onto the reader.

Thank you for understanding me. I think this style of communication works to some extend but it has some flaws for sure. I talked to Gemini about it and it said that a lot of times people especially in spiritual community are so used to communication in vague platitudes that you have to shake them to get actual concrete points out of them like what happened with Hojo here. 

@Hojo In what ways do you think that sex corrupts the mind? 

Edited 2 hours ago by LordFall

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 hours ago, Valach said:

If they would be able to connect to their own feminine side which is repressed, it would be so much easier connecting and understanding woman.

I've found it is often men who struggle to receive that are the least in touch with their feminine side. 

If there is resistance to words of affection especially - not always, but more commonly than not - there is a block to their own internal ability to truly connect to their feminine side. In a healthy way, where there relationship to their own femininity carries no shame or judgement. When we have a block, or there is an issue with our relationship to a feeling, it forms an obstacle to connection (usually with the opposite sex(. It just so happens that romantic relationships are one of the most revealing - and catalytic - ways to show us this block. Many times these feelings and blocks are reaching back to then we first developed a relationship to the feeling - from our parents. I hate the "daddy issues" or "mommy issues" labels - but there is a icy needle of truth there.

I always try to probe a bit "Why do you have ick feelings when those words are expressed?". This question deserves time and inspection.

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Hojo]

@LordFall You are an infinite being its in your nature to want more and take things too far, you always want more and more

If god gave you free reign over woman you will start slow and nice but over time you will go further and further and further.

Pretend you die and god says you can do whatever you want, you are like great ill have sex with 10 woman at the same time.

Then 50 then 100 then 2000 then after time your view about what is happening will get so warped you will want to have sex with corpses. You will kill the dream woman and have sex with their bodies you will do unimaginably weird shit and get stuck. You will do it for so long you forgot that reality wasnt having sex with woman and killing them and then having sex with their dead bodies.

Your psyche will be so warped and you will have nowhere to go or anything else to think about you will say this is what reality is.

This is what happend before you were born and its why you are here. God give you something new to think about and look at cause you were stuck and needed a reset.

If you are smart and you die and god says what do you want you will say not woman. I am greater than sex with woman.

Sex is for having babies.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

I see so you're scared of hedonism. That's a valid concern. I think having a solid life purpose takes care of a lot of that and also polyamory is a great hack you can have a relationship with multiple women at the same time or with one woman that enjoys fucking other women with you. 

I think you are right that boundaries can be pushed endlessly but you can do that responsibly and for the benefit of everyone involved. 

[Hojo]

@LordFall When you die God will give you free reign to do whatver you want. Theres no purpose there. You can do whatever you want you will know its a dream and that you are in your imagination. Proving to others that you virtous goes out the window. You will pick sex sex sex sex sex sex sex. You go straight to hedonism because theres no reason not to. And you have infinite time.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

Sure probably but I think we can also enjoy a lot of it in our life now and I mean also VR is coming soon some wild things will be experienced in there for sure. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

Thank you for understanding me. I think this style of communication works to some extend but it has some flaws for sure. I talked to Gemini about it and it said that a lot of times people especially in spiritual community are so used to communication in vague platitudes that you have to shake them to get actual concrete points out of them like what happened with Hojo here. 

I hear the message you are communicating - but often the expression (rhetoric) is filtered through some sort of (what appears to me, at least) frustration. You could be projecting out a "golden shadow" onto others - You see how you have thrived and grown in resilience, you have overcome obstacles and grown. You project your own capabilities onto others. Bear in mind, this explanation is just a possibility. When others fall short or resist, there can be a lot of frustration because you foresee the beneficial outcome. "Why can't they see what I see?"

Other people have hard limits. Some people just do not have the resilience that we do. They do not see resources to be leveraged where we do.  They are not as capable. They have intellectual limitations and sometimes undisclosed pathologies. They are at different life stages. And very importantly - we never truly know their total circumstances - their context. I often ask myself "why am I qualified to give this person advice?". "What am I getting out of this, by giving advice unsolicited, or attempting to know what is best for this person?" - there is a lot of arrogance here. A lot of hubris. I have personally been through this. And hey - it may not be the case with you. But once I begun to try to explore more, and dropped my own narrative of wanting to prove something, I got through to people effortlessly. We cannot truly listen to someone else when we have something to prove. 

Overcoming this tendency in myself helped more in business than any other domain, funnily enough.

I am still learning. I still get triggered into stern, absolute statements (this can be very antithetical to transmitting messages).

Overall it might be helpful to ask yourself, prior to responding "what if...?" regarding the persons claim or premise. It can help you account for what they may be facing, coupled with us eventually steering the other to where we think they may benefit. More often than not it also means our rhetoric is much more compassionate and expresses tolerance when we speak our truth.

Overall I exercise caution with advice.

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Basman]

Mark Manson is kind of the Brian Griffin of self-help. Generic and has this smarminess to him.

Edited 23 minutes ago by Basman

[Basman]

12 hours ago, Raze said:

He also started this annoying trend 

By far the worst thing he has done. Death penalty 

[aurum]

2 minutes ago, Basman said:

By far the worst thing he has done. Death penalty 

Great example of market conformity.

[Basman]

I always keep a copy of not giving a fuck next to my macbook inside my fjellraven backpack when I go to Starbucks for my macha latte and bagel. I've never read it.