1 Dating Coach vs 20 Manosphere (ft. Mark Manson)

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori Maru Its like .005 on an awakening scale. Its is a mini awakening straight back into deceptions. While we all do that if you tell them what awakening even more entails they deny the same way they denied this was happening in the first place. Its like a wet fart awakening.

Some man diarrehea in his pants and says I know it now! Like no bro your brains have to come out your asshole.

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[LordFall]

9 minutes ago, Hojo said:

my pet peeve is when people use the terms like matrix and awakening as something social or governmental thing.

Like these people are like ive awoken, I now know the government and my companies dont care about me.

It feels like someone put these into the ideology to throw people off of awakening for real.

Like bro you can awaken without the government existing.

The matrix has nothing to do with men being feminized. But they talk as if it does.

Its because they are lazy and want to feel part of the elite and rise above the masses without doing the work. It's why a lot of them believe in conspiracy theories like that the moon landing is fake because it makes them feel smart without having to read books. If anyone tells you the moon landing is fake or the earth is flat that's basically an easy IQ test. 

[Hojo]

3 minutes ago, LordFall said:

The main problem with these guys is they are ideologues, not practioners. They don't really build anything, they basically are almost solipsistic. They want the world to revolve around them so women should fuck them easily and in droves but have a low body count.  They don't really build strong social circles that give a lot of value to people which would ironically actually make people revolve around them. They are basically being egotistical from a scarcity and victim mindset which is one of the most gross combinations you can have. 

When you actually build a life of value you don't need to lecture women on how to behave. You just have women around you because you help their lives and make it fun in the process. These guys are like Karens but the malevolent male version. 

They want to go back to olden times, which might be smart in a sense. Its much easier. Everyone is confused now.

[Hojo]

3 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Its because they are lazy and want to feel part of the elite and rise above the masses without doing the work. It's why a lot of them believe in conspiracy theories like that the moon landing is fake because it makes them feel smart without having to read books. If anyone tells you the moon landing is fake or the earth is flat that's basically an easy IQ test. 

The Earth is flat. Not up and down, like an objective up and down exist. Its 2 dimensional, your perceptual field can only go up and down and left and right.

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[LordFall]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

The Earth is flat. Not up and down ,left and right flat. Its 2 dimensional.

No, the Earth is a sphere.

[Hojo]

@LordFall If you were in space looking at the earth behind the earth that you cant see dosent exist. Its a flat image. Behind the other side of the earth is formless. Thats your direct experience. You are seeing both sides of the earth from one side. If you look at the earth and cant see the other side, you are actually seeing the other side from the side you are looking at, its just dosent have a form.

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[LordFall]

Hojo, your direct experience is not all that exists. You are aware of this correct? 

[Hojo]

@LordFall You cant prove that your direct experience isnt all that exists. Anything outside your direct experience is made up. And you can only see in 2D

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[Hojo]

@LordFall

Behind objects is a formless void of nothing that you can see when you look at it. Its like a hologram. The earth is literally flat like a pancake its 2 dimensional in your direct experience.

You 'moving around' in the world is just a bunch of 2d images. You cant move you are conciousness you are stuck in one spot.

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[LordFall]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@LordFall You cant prove that your direct experience isnt all that exists. Anything outside your direct experience is made up. And you can only see in 2D

Of course I can. In my direct experience I have never made a building. I pay rent to live in them. If things outside of my direct experience were made up then who tf made the buildings? I don't know how to create a foundation and to insulate myself against winter yet I live through Canadian winters.

My only logical conclusion is that other independent human minds figured it out, built the infrastructure, and I am now benefiting from knowledge that exists completely outside of my own direct experience. 

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[Hojo]

@LordFall If you see a tree in the distance its not far away, its tiny.

[Hojo]

@LordFall There is something more intelligent than you creating your life like an animator creates a cartoon. You dont have to make conclusions. Its like the cartoon character making up conclusions about where its house came from. The animator drew it for you it didnt come from anyone building it. If you want to explore it you can and the animator will keep making shit up. The things the animator creates didnt happen until you became aware of them.

Whats behind the 2d house in a cartoon? An empty screen of formlessness. 

Reality is more like a cartoon than what science is saying.

The form of a human comes before the insides of the human. The human has no insides when its form is intact.

If you look at your arm there is no muscles and bones in there.

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[LordFall]

Sure but that's irrelevant you just switched points. This process is happening outside of my direct experience. Your points are so bad I'm having a hard time convincing myself to reply to them. Do you know that objects have holes in them? In our direct experience objects are solid but they have a lot of space in their particules, are you mindblown now? 

[Hojo]

@LordFall Thats science discovering the empty screen behind the object. The look really close and see a black hole which is the formless thats behind everything like an empty screen behind a character in a  movie. And they realize that this empty black screen is behind everything.

If you awaken you can see the black screen without having to look at a microscope. Its everywhere.

Nothing is happening outside your experience, behind everything you see is a black screen. When someone leaves your view they literally dissolve and dissapear.

Science says this via the double slit experiment. 

You are the observer. There are no other observers.

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[LordFall]

@Leo Gura Why do you tolerate people saying such nonsense? Does it not hurt your brain? 

[Hojo]

@LordFall Hes teaching this. How many times has he said everything is in your direct experience?

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[Hojo]

@LordFall If you listen to donald hoffman he says space and time are doomed. That means they never existed.

[LordFall]

Not at all you've not understood it. Do you understand though that this is why you hate people like Elon Musk? Because they take complex ideas and make something useful out of them whereas you spout absolute nonsense and defend it endlessly? The reason Elon Musk can do astrophysics and you can't is because he is not lost in delusions. 

[Hojo]

@LordFall You always compare me to other people like you and them are friends. Are you sure you left psychosis? There is a pattern of people in psychosis thinking about elites non stop like they are friends. Like you need other people to defend your own positions. And somehow you bringing them up is supposed to be an own on myself. You are the one living in the airy fairy tale of imaginary people. When I quote people its to support my position not attack the other persons character.

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[LordFall]

I brought up public figures because they are concrete examples of humans operating within the society we share—I certainly don't think we're friends.

When the claim is "nothing exists outside direct experience," bringing up other people and their knowledge is the only logical counter-argument. Other people build houses, perform surgery, and design systems using information neither of us personally possess in our immediate awareness.

I apologize for being insulting. It’s genuinely frustrating because every time I address a point (like building foundations or atomic structure), you shift the goalpost to a new abstraction—from flat rendering, to animators, to quantum mechanics.

It feels like arguing with ghost points because we aren't using a shared standard of logic or cause-and-effect to ground the discussion.

The core mistake here is confusing phenomenology with ontology. 

Phenomenology is how reality appears through the limited lens of human sensory perception (like 2D light hitting a retina).

Ontology is what actually exists and operates underneath those perceptions (like physical mechanics, atomic structures, and shared external infrastructure).

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