Should I take 5-MeO-DMT?

[thenondualtankie]

I am called to meditate, but the conclusion is always more meditation

My lonely ways have been overcome, yet I still do not find myself surrounded with friends, adventures, sex, relationships

My brain tells me it's all true:

• I am God
• Love is the Highest Teaching
• The Supernatural is real and accessible

So maybe I should just take the plunge?

But what will my family think? To them, I have already lost the plot, quitting my career as a Developer, throwing my education in the trash can.

What will I face in that moment? Will I be sent to the depths of hell, tormented by my worst nightmares?

My mind gets paranoid at night. I open the bathroom lights hoping a disfigured creature isn't sitting there waiting for me.

I am afraid in the day. Will I ever be loved by people? Will I ever find love? Will I ever become Wealthy? Wealthy in activities, in relationships, in acts of service, in purposefulness?

I call to you, O Higher Beings that reside in this forum: Should I do 5-MeO-DMT?

[Davino]

You could, but you'll be awake in a shitty dream.

Psychedelics are not going to solve your human problems, maybe they could or maybe they could make them worse.

Have a stable happy fulfilling human life, then do spirituality and psychedelics. This is the proper order of things, it's a common trap to put the cart before the horse. Complete human then go transhuman. Probably more spiritual bypassing isn't going to help you, or maybe you hit the jackpot who knows, it's up to you to decide what to do. These are just general good practices.

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, thenondualtankie said:

call to you, O Higher Beings that reside in this forum: Should I do 5-MeO-DMT

😅😅Please don't trust anyone. Anyway, if you ask me, I would say yes, try it, but don't believe anything about God or dreams, just break your mind without mercy 

Pd: oh beginner in spirituality, you must know that this reign is the reign of narcissism, projection and self induced hallucinations. Is short, the reign of bullshits, so be smart and don't believe anyone 

Edited Wednesday at 10:28 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, thenondualtankie said:

am afraid in the day. Will I ever be loved by people? Will I ever find love? Will I ever become Wealthy? Wealthy in activities, in relationships, in acts of service, in purposefulness?

Just fight as your life depends on it. What's true btw. Maybe you won't die of hunger, but you could die of depression 

[Joseph Maynor]

You should if you can.  

[Hayato]

On 7/1/2026 at 9:01 PM, thenondualtankie said:

Will I ever be loved by people? Will I ever find love?

Be the source.

 

On 7/1/2026 at 9:01 PM, thenondualtankie said:

Should I do 5-MeO-DMT?

I don't think you should.

[Davino]

@thenondualtankie What is your take, what will you do?

[Yimpa]

 

[Davino]

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[PenguinPablo]

On 7/1/2026 at 3:54 PM, Davino said:

You could, but you'll be awake in a shitty dream.

Psychedelics are not going to solve your human problems, maybe they could or maybe they could make them worse.

Have a stable happy fulfilling human life, then do spirituality and psychedelics. This is the proper order of things, it's a common trap to put the cart before the horse. Complete human then go transhuman. Probably more spiritual bypassing isn't going to help you, or maybe you hit the jackpot who knows, it's up to you to decide what to do. These are just general good practices.

You don't think God realization can help with building a better life?

Leo says it can help you achieve unimaginable success... no? (though I do wonder what and how he means)

I do think a lot of spiritually awake people seem to excel in creative domains. Steve Jobs is a good example. Not sure he was fully awake but he was into Kriya Yoga and did LSD. Also John Lennon in music.

Oliver Tree seemed pretty awake to me but his message was that you have to put in the work and it won't fall on your lap. 

 

[Davino]

@PenguinPablo it may help but you're cherry picking evidence, I can find you millions of cases of people who destroyed their lives because of spirituality and psychedelics. Yes, even genuine spirituality, sometimes it's just not the right time.

You need a stable happy fulfilling life, how are you gonna become transhuman into God if you couldn't pass the basic requirements to be human.

I'm extremely successful in my personal human life and even still many times spirituality could have seriously destroyed my life. This is no joke, I can't sell you the flowers and hide the skeleton in the closet. If you enter the spirituality rabbit hole you may go in too far and then it's impossible to go back. So get the right balance between being human and realising Infinity. Imo you should always do both but at different ratios and surely work on the foundations. Maslow's hierarchy of needs is very illuminating in this regard:

The pyramid is like a pot, what happens if you have a hole in social and esteem needs, or don't have. A nice home, or haven't worked on your mind and psyche. Even if you pour nectar from the top of self-transcendence it will slowly spill out through one of this holes.

This is a healthy general advice:

[Eskilon]

@Davino It's a good general advice, but not every person needs to go in a sequential order on the pypyramid, it's a model after all. Jumps are possible and every insight is a jump, so a person might have the vision and insight which makes then not need to go through every step. Just like there are kids who skips grades and it's a reasonable decision to do so. If the person feels the call to go deep early, they may not necessarily go through all human games if he can see it's mostly a waste from his pov. Jumps are possible and maybe essential. 

Regardless if one goes earlier in life or later, you need courage and there's no guarantee, so it is not much different if you really think about it. You are going into uncharted seas and you may not come back.

Edited 5 hours ago by Eskilon

[Davino]

@Eskilon Yes that's true.

 

As a personal example, I didn't follow the chart till I figured out what Truth is, it was my top priority and I was willing to sacrifice everything for it. 

Once I realised Absolute Truth then I was reasonable and aligned all my life to the presented principles.

[Eskilon]

11 minutes ago, Davino said:

As a personal example, I didn't follow the chart till I figured out what Truth is, it was my top priority and I was willing to sacrifice everything for it. 

I am on a similar path. Growing by leaps and bounds everyday. Some deceptions left for me to clean to get to truth I imagine, but In every moment possible I am trying to elevate my consciousness. I will get there

[PenguinPablo]

@Davino I agree. I’ve also seen plenty of schizophrenic homeless people that have that spiritual gaze like Osho or other such people so it is interesting to see those parallels and energetic changes that most normies do not have. It can lead this dysfunction as you said

i spent from age 16-20 really getting serious and taking school very seriously then my entire 20s pushing too much into spirituality and now I’m constantly struggling. So you are right it can undermine the foundation and it’s harder to build it up without the safety nets of your early 20s. You take it for granted when you’re young and making it happen for you is 10x harder if you missed it earlier on in most cases

Funnily enough I was also pursuing mech eng. from 18-22 years old

Edited 51 minutes ago by PenguinPablo

[Leo Gura]

Why is this even a question? Of course you should. Just do it safely and carefully, and don't expect it to fix the rest of your life. It won't fix you. But it will show you God.

If you want a better material life, psychedelics will not give it to you. You must build it manually through serious effort.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[thenondualtankie]

I will take it in due time.