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Aghori taking 5 MEO

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7 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

NKB played a prank on Ram Dass , taking a large amount of drugs at one occasion, only to have no tangible effects whatsoever due to his enlightened state. This could have affected any other unenlightened person adversely.

That's cute that everyone believes those siddhis but no one proved them with scanners and scientist. 

Maybe I'm a too skeptical, but I don't believe rumors spread by a book seller. 

7 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

Ram Dass was not enlightened

Who is enlightened?

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4 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's cute that everyone believes those siddhis but no one proved them with scanners and scientist. 

Maybe I'm a too skeptical, but I don't believe rumors spread by a book seller. 

Who is enlightened?

Or believe egos on drugs.

 


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38 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

Or believe egos on drugs.

 

I don't believe nothing, 7 years ago I decided to break the shell of my mind, then I started meditation and I focused in spirituality very seriously .

Then I started with psychedelics, not because I believe anyone, just experiencing and seeing what's more effective. I'm smart enough to believe in myself, I don't need gurus or teachers. Then I discovered 5 meo and I used it very deeply, and now I'm talking about it. The change have been dramatic, my mind is open,  then I can talk about it .

 

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1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't believe nothing, 7 years ago I decided to break the shell of my mind, then I started meditation and I focused in spirituality very seriously .

Then I started with psychedelics, not because I believe anyone, just experiencing and seeing what's more effective. I'm smart enough to believe in myself, I don't need gurus or teachers. Then I discovered 5 meo and I used it very deeply, and now I'm talking about it. The change have been dramatic, my mind is open,  then I can talk about it .

 

I don’t have any problem with that.  I don’t believe in one-size-fits-all and I am in no position to judge what works for someone else.   I just don’t believe psychedelics are necessary or even advantageous.  I am more against the marketing and hype.  There is also the “wear off” problem, i.e. getting temporary states but no long term change.  For me, a natural approach has been more effective.        


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Why do you consider the Aghori to be particularly advanced people? They are like homeless monks. It's great to meditate and ponder the mysteries of the universe and bliss out on it and then you come back and you're still living your life. The dudes spent their whole life meditating I would hope they have had mystical experiences and are not super shocked by 5 meo.

It's people that are able to take their high consciousness and help transform the world that really impress me personally, like Bryan Johnson. He loved 5 meo dmt so much he got it tattooed and is living his life daily to further humanity and our whole medical apparatus not just sit around in a tent doing nothing. 


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2 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

I don’t have any problem with that.  I don’t believe in one-size-fits-all and I am in no position to judge what works for someone else.   I just don’t believe psychedelics are necessary or even advantageous.  I am more against the marketing and hype.  There is also the “wear off” problem, i.e. getting temporary states but no long term change.  For me, a natural approach has been more effective.        

Agree on that, universal solution doesn't exist, it depends a lot of the person. My energetic structure was so dense that would be impossible without a solvent like 5meo, and I ve not the patience, the discipline. I can be very obsessive in anything but not by discipline, then without the trigger of 5meo I would die with a dense psyche

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5 meow , maybe you people need something else deep down

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18 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's cute that everyone believes those siddhis but no one proved them with scanners and scientist. 

Maybe I'm a too skeptical, but I don't believe rumors spread by a book seller. 

Siddhis or psychic abilities are no major deal if you ask me.

I myself as a conditioned atheist-materialist-rationalist teenager used to scoff and disparage theism and psychic abilities as baseless superstitions.

However one of the greatest ironies for me was that I myself developed such psychic abilities later on through meditation and satsang (company of enlightened sages).

I have met others as well who have such abilities.

My perception is that anyone can develop psychic abilities if they put in the right efforts. 


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9 minutes ago, Ajay0 said:

myself as a conditioned atheist-materialist-rationalist teenager used to scoff and disparage theism and psychic abilities as baseless superstitions.

However one of the greatest ironies for me was that I myself developed such psychic abilities later on through meditation and satsang (company of enlightened sages).

I have met others as well who have such abilities.

My perception is that anyone can develop psychic abilities if they put in the right efforts

Could you give more information? What abilities did you develop, what did you see in others? I'm  interested in the topic. I was recently reading about Brian Weiss's cases of regressive hypnosis, and some are impressive.

I'm not 100% skeptical, but the problem with siddhis is that no one has ever demonstrated any under scientific observation, just like with any paranormal ability. When subjected to the scientific method, the result is that they don't exist.

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15 minutes ago, Ajay0 said:

I myself as a conditioned atheist-materialist-rationalist teenager used to scoff and disparage theism and psychic abilities as baseless superstitions.

However one of the greatest ironies for me was that I myself developed such psychic abilities later on through meditation and satsang

Haha. Beautiful. ^_^

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On 07/07/2026 at 2:11 AM, Leo Gura said:

2 years of mediation will get you nowhere.

Nowhere compared to 5-Meo state or nowhere in general?

What about what you call sober awakenings, like the one you had very early-on on a retreat (before psychedelics), I remember you telling that story in an old video.

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