How to stop idealizing women?

[Never_give_up]

Idealizing women makes me unnatractive to them. Also it makes me so anxious I forget how to talk and can't look them in the eyes or face in general. How to stop this? 

Also is it true that the more experience you have with women the less you think they are goddesses and you become more relaxed when you are with them and thus you are more attractive? If yes, how do I get experience if I find them so attractive I can't talk to them? 

When I see an unattractive woman I have no problem talking to her with ease. I even become bored talking to her pretty quickly. But when I find a woman attractive even if everyone finds her unnatractive I am filtering everything i say at least 5 times and I end up saying nothing and I don't know what they think, they probably think I am weirdo or that I am a snob that doesn't even talk to some people. 

This life is so hard for me honestly pfff. 

[TheGreekSeeker]

I think having a sister in life helped me demythologize women. 

It didn't help me get better at pick-up though.

[TheGreekSeeker]

Whenever I see a very attractive woman I instantly lose aura points. Imo I feel more dumb, I can't stop staring at her, I forget how to talk. It's normal, especially if you have Asperger's. I have mild Asperger's too. Life shouldn't be this hard I get it. However there is always room for improvement.

[Terell Kirby]

You can have a backbone without being an asshole about it-

^ what every nice guy misunderstands 

[LordFall]

The simple fix is to talk to hot women more often. Your brain knows what you’re in a rare opportunity and heightens pressure so you don’t fuck it up which makes you fuck it up. Prove your brain wrong and make it not a rare event. 

Find and download social circle blueprint 1 and 2 by RSD Luke and create a social circle with hot women that like to hangout around you and also do cold approach a couple of times a week which if you do it right will fuel your social circle. 
 

Also realize that most men never sleep with an attractive woman in their life so you’re blessed with the knowledge to learn this on the internet. Take action where most men don’t. 

Also make sure that your life is setup properly and you have value to offer. Often times we look at women as the prize because well they are. If you were a man that could attract many attractive women then your subconscious would not feel unworthy and make you anxious around them. You'd be more excited and at ease like a challenge that's not higher difficulty than you handle but just right. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[Hojo]

Stop looking at them unless they are talking to you. In 1 week you will stop. Be around hot woman and don't look at them.

What happens is you look at them and say I want that. You identify with it and your eyes will automatically look at it without you even doing it. Now you are trapped.

Now you've made up a lie about reality. And you think about them when you jerk off and it fucks it up more.

The woman find you more attractive when you act like you dont like them. If you act like you are over desperate they know you are jerking off to them mentally or physically.

You are identifying with woman who have nothing to do with you cause they are hot. And you think if you say something different you will get them. Its not going to happen like that you have to de identify then be yourself.

The easiest way to deidentify is to stop looking.

You treat them special when they aren't.

If you do this for one week around them you will notice a huge difference. They will talk to you.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

Find yourself a real bitch and marry her.

More practically, you need to date a few hot women to directly experience how annoying they can be.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[AerisVahnEphelia]

55 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Find yourself a real bitch and marry her.

More practically, you need to date a few hot women to directly experience how annoying they can be.

you just need to find true love.
 

the belief in pattern must be deconstructed.
Reality has no rigid pattern; this is totaly a projection & religious delusion (myth of science)

You could find the most beautiful & loving girl and she is hot at the same time way beyond enlightment ( my wife )
 

the problem is ASSUMING pattern to begin with.

of course there is some SENSE for pattern existing.

But NOTHING is as similar as it looks.

 

Edited 46 minutes ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

Stop looking at them unless they are talking to you. In 1 week you will stop. Be around hot woman and don't look at them.

What happens is you look at them and say I want that. You identify with it and your eyes will automatically look at it without you even doing it. Now you are trapped.

Now you've made up a lie about reality. And you think about them when you jerk off and it fucks it up more.

The woman find you more attractive when you act like you dont like them. If you act like you are over desperate they know you are jerking off to them mentally or physically.

You are identifying with woman who have nothing to do with you cause they are hot. And you think if you say something different you will get them. Its not going to happen like that you have to de identify then be yourself.

The easiest way to deidentify is to stop looking.

You treat them special when they aren't.

If you do this for one week around them you will notice a huge difference. They will talk to you.

Total bullshit & delusion.

Imagine there is girl who likes you even more, when you like them a lot & chase them.

they litteraly exist.
 

But again, you can't read what I m saying, you're living in a fantasy, and you're probably going to come up with another to imagine what I was pointing at.

[Hojo]

@AerisVahnEphelia This man has a serious problem. He needs to step back and regroup himself. You have no idea. If he chased a woman now he would fumble instantly. You dont chase people in an unhealthy mindset. His mindset needs to get off woman.

First step is to disengage and stop identifying with it. Then he can come back after.

If you notice his problem he is asking is not about how to chase woman its that he is overthinking about everything and fking it up. You cant overthink then chase that will ruin everything. Chasing is a game of play, this man is in no state to play hes taking it too seriously.

He needs to stop overthinking, you do that by disengaging and letting the thoughts settle.

He thinking about woman that arent there and the self dialogues and sex fantasies pile up over years of doing this. Thats why he cant look them in the eyes, because he is thinking dirty thoughts and dosent want them to know.

I dont need to come up with another its right the first time.

Life is hard for him cause hes lying to God about whats happening via imagination.

 

If he stopped lying to God about fking woman and identifying with them he will be able to look them in the eye and talk to them normally. Then he can play. Then like Leo said he can realize that the hot ones are just as boring as the ugly ones.

 

If he keeps going with fantasies and lies to himself about what is happening he will stay this way forever.

Edited 20 minutes ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

45 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

you just need to find true love.
 

the belief in pattern must be deconstructed.
Reality has no rigid pattern; this is totaly a projection & religious delusion (myth of science)

You could find the most beautiful & loving girl and she is hot at the same time way beyond enlightment ( my wife )
 

the problem is ASSUMING pattern to begin with.

of course there is some SENSE for pattern existing.

But NOTHING is as similar as it looks.

 

How do you find this true love? Seems like some people have an easier time at it that others. I think you're better optimizing for the patterns you can spot and if somehow the universe decides to drop a perfect partner on your lap take it otherwise follow proven systems that yield predictable results. Like cold approach and social circle game.