Women are attracted to relativity

[StaraX]

I'd like to know your opinion on this perspective. Let me be clear: this is not a manosphere argument.

Male attractiveness is much more relative than female attractiveness. Ya'll often talk about a "high-value man," and for men that usually means status, wealth, fame, leadership etc.  In other words, a man's attractiveness is heavily dependent on how much he possesses these qualities relative to other men.

For example, to have high status, there must be many men with lower status. To be wealthy, there must be a poor person. To be a leader, there must be followers. Women's attraction to these traits seems to be based largely on this relativity.

Female attractiveness is  looks.  Men can find a woman attractive within seconds, without comparing her to other women. In other words, her attractiveness is not DEPENDENT on the existence of less attractive, older, overweight, or less desirable women. A woman can be considered attractive on her own merits, whereas a man's attractiveness appears to depend much more on how he ranks compared to other men.

[Schizophonia]

It's a believe system that you project 

Edited yesterday at 11:04 AM by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

You forgot the “energies and presence” , you are picking up on it and it is influencing you, even if you are not aware of it, unless you’re ultra idenfied being, then yes you will be able to isolate looks like that, or the woman that just looks at the “status” etc

Yall really be revealing a lot about your own minds with these posts 

Edited yesterday at 11:23 AM by Sugarcoat

[StaraX]

Okay. What is the truth, then? 

[aurum]

1 hour ago, StaraX said:

In other words, her attractiveness is not DEPENDENT on the existence of less attractive, older, overweight, or less desirable women

I think this is too far.

Physical beauty is still a relative notion. If every woman looked equally beautiful, you would not find it as meaningful.

[StaraX]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

I think this is too far.

Physical beauty is still a relative notion. If every woman looked equally beautiful, you would not find it as meaningful.

There are two main components of relativity. In this context, I'm referring to the dependency component. For example, for someone to be considered tall, there must be someone who is shorter. If everyone were the same height, then concepts like "tall" and "short" wouldn't exist.

[gettoefl]

This is correct. A woman is pass or fail. A man is a work in progress. One day good, next day bad. While if she is fine, she is fine like a good wine.

[aurum]

26 minutes ago, StaraX said:

There are two main components of relativity. In this context, I'm referring to the dependency component. For example, for someone to be considered tall, there must be someone who is shorter. If everyone were the same height, then concepts like "tall" and "short" wouldn't exist.

Yes I understood that.

Physical beauty doesn't happen in a vacuum. It still depends on a relative component.

[LordFall]

I think you're spot on. The core of male sexuality is based on female fertility and the core of female sexuality is based on male provisioning and security which are relative to the environment that they're in. Which is why in today's environment which is quite safe but heavily status based, 80% of men are deemed unattractive if a woman is swiping on Tinder and going to the club. 

Knowing this as a man your best strategy is to use your unique strengths to overcome your weaknesses and be basically more competitive than the men in your local environment. 

[Jirh]

Actually, no.

That's just ego attraction, based on comparison.

Raw attraction is a seperate thing. It's a reflex. Something you cannot fake or make your way out of.

My opinion depends on which one you're interested in.

[Hojo]

@StaraX Try to remeber when you were like 12 you didnt rate people on their bodies you talked to them and decided wether you like them. When the man gets older his hormones hijack his system and he stops doing this.It just curves and boner.

The woman dont stop doing this. They still think like 12 year old you did. Does status and those things mean something? Yes they did to 12 year old you too. But its not just that.

If you want to be good with woman you go back to 12 year old.

You dont even want the woman that want status fame and money, you wont even have fun.

Edited 10 hours ago by Hojo

[LordFall]

7 hours ago, Hojo said:

@StaraX Try to remeber when you were like 12 you didnt rate people on their bodies you talked to them and decided wether you like them. When the man gets older his hormones hijack his system and he stops doing this.It just curves and boner.

The woman dont stop doing this. They still think like 12 year old you did. Does status and those things mean something? Yes they did to 12 year old you too. But its not just that.

If you want to be good with woman you go back to 12 year old.

You dont even want the woman that want status fame and money, you wont even have fun.

Are you good with women or you're just imagining what perhaps might work? 

What's not fun about status, fame and money? Anti-materialism for the sake of it is quite anti-intellectual and spiritual bypassing IMO.

Status is just a group of people thinking highly of you in a group you're in or in society as a whole. Fame is just starting to be recognized for what you do or what you are in a city, industry or globally. Money is people liking your work enough that they reward you for it. Usually your work solves a proble for them and makes their life better.

Which of these things is bad? There is wisdom in not being attached to markers of success and accomplishment because it can become an endless pursuit when you are at the top and when you're the bottom you'll not enjoy the journey. Being against them as a blanket statement is just coping for lack of success though and sour grapes ultimately.