The dumbest collective shit test

[Schizophonia]

7 minutes ago, integral said:

Are you doing any self development work?

I unravel the mysteries of the universe and human psychology by masturbating at 3 a.m. 
 

More seriously things are generally going well except social relationships.

Edited 2 hours ago by Schizophonia

[LordFall]

@integral You’re misrepresenting my points to argue against a position I don’t hold. I never said having a vision for society is forbidden, nor did I say life should only be about chasing millions and models.

My point is simple: true leadership and high consciousness don’t sit on the sidelines venting about OnlyFans models under the guise of "societal integrity." That's just jadedness and victim mindset masquerading as spirituality. When a framework teaches you to view the average human being as a "profound waste of time" who "says absolutely nothing," it’s not an evolution of consciousness—it’s an ego defence mechanism designed to protect you from the discomfort of participating in reality. Someone who understands the world doesn't retreat because the world is messy; they build systems to elevate it.

I feel like I'm harsher than I really mean to be Integral it's all love bro but I feel like your mindset is quite off on this one. 

@Schizophonia I love the honesty here, it's good to be able to verbalize your hangups. Women want to have sex with men, that's how 300 000 years evolution got us to where we are. Why its easier or harder depending on different guys is a function of the market ,it's not really a personal thing against you. Meaning that you can use the strategies I've mentionned to be the same guy but paint yourself in a much more attractive light. To the point where a girl will fantasize about blowing you. Multiple of them even. 

You don't need to be a god for a woman to desire you. You need to work on social skills, lead with good energy, and share a fun, value filled space with them and then giving you pleasure becomes just as fun for them as it is for you. Women are usually even more sexual than men.

From me asking AI, Toulouse is a student city with a massive creative scene. Don't worry about your friends not being motivated—join the game global group for Toulouse. It's only got 14 people right now but maybe 2-3 guys will be down to go out. Start small, look into local creative meetups, improv, or sports that you'd like, and start treating your neurotic brain as a video game to level up in. 

That's the part where treating dating like a video game makes sense. Not the dating itself part but levelling up your life and then it becomes less personal and less anxiety inducing. Baby steps until you're where you wanna be frero. 

https://www.gameglobal.net/groups/

 

Edited 2 hours ago by LordFall

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

Someone who understands the world doesn't retreat because the world is messy; they build systems to elevate it.

🔥

[integral]

52 minutes ago, LordFall said:

You’re misrepresenting my points to argue against a position I don’t hold. I never said having a vision for society is forbidden, nor did I say life should only be about chasing millions and models.

My point is simple: true leadership and high consciousness don’t sit on the sidelines venting about OnlyFans models under the guise of "societal integrity." That's just jadedness and victim mindset masquerading as spirituality. When a framework teaches you to view the average human being as a "profound waste of time" who "says absolutely nothing," it’s not an evolution of consciousness—it’s an ego defence mechanism designed to protect you from the discomfort of participating in reality. Someone who understands the world doesn't retreat because the world is messy; they build systems to elevate it.

I feel like I'm harsher than I really mean to be Integral it's all love bro but I feel like your mindset is quite off on this one. 

"true leadership and high consciousness don’t sit on the sidelines venting about OnlyFans models under the guise of "societal integrity." That's just jadedness and victim mindset masquerading as spirituality."
-> okay so in this sentence your doing this "Criticism that doesn't serve your achievement is victim mindset / self-limiting"

"When a framework teaches you to view the average human being as a "profound waste of time" who "says absolutely nothing," it’s not an evolution of consciousness—it’s an ego defence mechanism designed to protect you from the discomfort of participating in reality."
-> Again you're doing the exact same thing where you think everything has to do with creating the best mindset to then participate in reality at the highest level.

Nothing I said was about what is positive or negative as a mindset, it is simply what is happening in reality. The extrovert gets energy when they socialize, the introvert gets drained.

Read this: 

https://www.actualized.org/insights/understanding-solitude

Edited 1 hour ago by integral

[LordFall]

Yes introverts need alone time to recharge. Doesn't mean you should forego socialization and then claim superior development from that. It's coping as I've said already. Why it's victim mindset is you're saying that the world lacks integrity and instead of being part of the change you're claiming that retreating in solitude is somehow the superior strategy here. You can't claim weakness and present it as a strength that's insanity.

I'm very familiar with Leo's point of view on this and just read the post again. Leo himself claims that this is just his POV and I'll claim myself that it's a reaction to being put in a complicated system that your brain doesn't understand how to navigate and thus is exhausting. I've already explained how you can curate your own environments that are both more fun and meaningful to navigate than a nightclub and also bring up people to your level. That's the definition of leadership. 

You're literally said that people are a profound waste of time. What you should do is introspect on how you came to that conclusion and if it's grounded in reality or just your limited perspective of it. People have limitless potential. 

High consciousness isn't a lab experiment that shatters the moment you step outside your comfort zone. It's about having the capacity to enter the chaotic world and transform it with your presence or at least learn to enjoy it. That's what any mystic that's changed the world has done such as our boy Jesus. You don't HAVE to do that but if you're gonna claim that your perspective is the superior one then I will deconstruct it. 

I'm also an INTP hard introvert. I've spent 12 years working on myself and learning from different environments to get to the point where I'm at now.I still spend most of the day in solitude and introspection. Introverts can excel in social situations, they just have to find their own unique way of doing it. I know some hard introverts that do very well at cold approach but can't really socialize in a party or nightlife environment because the communication there is more emotional and vibe based than intellectual. I don't particularly excel at cold approach but I also mostly like intellectual environments. Which is why I did a podcast and host creative events. The arts are a mix of intuition and creativity as well as entrepreneurship and marketing so I enjoy the mix of left and right brain thinking.

If you're satisfied with where you are at in life that's fine but I'm saying your limitations are self imposed my friend. 

 

[integral]

13 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Yes introverts need alone time to recharge. Doesn't mean you should forego socialization and then claim superior development from that. It's coping as I've said already. Why it's victim mindset is you're saying that the world lacks integrity and instead of being part of the change you're claiming that retreating in solitude is somehow the superior strategy here. You can't claim weakness and present it as a strength that's insanity.

I'm very familiar with Leo's point of view on this and just read the post again. Leo himself claims that this is just his POV and I'll claim myself that it's a reaction to being put in a complicated system that your brain doesn't understand how to navigate and thus is exhausting. I've already explained how you can curate your own environments that are both more fun and meaningful to navigate than a nightclub and also bring up people to your level. That's the definition of leadership. 

You're literally said that people are a profound waste of time. What you should do is introspect on how you came to that conclusion and if it's grounded in reality or just your limited perspective of it. People have limitless potential. 

High consciousness isn't a lab experiment that shatters the moment you step outside your comfort zone. It's about having the capacity to enter the chaotic world and transform it with your presence or at least learn to enjoy it. That's what any mystic that's changed the world has done such as our boy Jesus. You don't HAVE to do that but if you're gonna claim that your perspective is the superior one then I will deconstruct it. 

I'm also an INTP hard introvert. I've spent 12 years working on myself and learning from different environments to get to the point where I'm at now.I still spend most of the day in solitude and introspection. Introverts can excel in social situations, they just have to find their own unique way of doing it. I know some hard introverts that do very well at cold approach but can't really socialize in a party or nightlife environment because the communication there is more emotional and vibe based than intellectual. I don't particularly excel at cold approach but I also mostly like intellectual environments. Which is why I did a podcast and host creative events. The arts are a mix of intuition and creativity as well as entrepreneurship and marketing so I enjoy the mix of left and right brain thinking.

If you're satisfied with where you are at in life that's fine but I'm saying your limitations are self imposed my friend. 

 

I agree.

The point I'm making is: I did all that and now I want to be alone.

Edited 38 minutes ago by integral

[LordFall]

That's fair I respect that. I'll just leave you with don't give up on people they are worth it. 

[integral]

@LordFall We are operating from different life stages, you're in your 20s having to achieve and go out in the world and Conquer everything. I'm almost in my 40s, all of that is done already.

24 minutes ago, LordFall said:

 Introverts can excel in social situations, they just have to find their own unique way of doing it.

I've already did all of this and now the human need is satisfied. Now I'd rather be alone and I recognize socializing as a series of games that people are playing to get their needs met, or business needs met or whatever else is going on.

Even having the best deepest connection with someone isn't really worth it, I'd rather just be completely alone and isolated because no matter what when you have any interaction with people, you have to take responsibility of their life and chaos and it does become a burden, there's just no reason to deal with it anymore especially when you've already satisfied the human need within yourself.

Edited 27 minutes ago by integral

[LordFall]

There is a great Owen cook whole hour and a half video on this, I highly recommend you watch it. You're not the only one that feels this way, most men give up around 40. 

If you're saying that you're experiencing connection with others as pain and burden then that's a diagnostic sign towards lack of alignment. If done right helping others should feel like basically hedonism like you're using your skills that you've built to solve someone else's problem and then they're grateful that you helped them solve it and say X person is such a cool person they've helped me; a virtuous cycle. Easier than done for sure but it can be done, I'm just starting to tap into it with my creative communities feels good. 

Also I'm 31, for sure I get to be in the wise elder category now 

Edited 15 minutes ago by LordFall