bryan johnson looks like a drug addict

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Rigel said:

You guys really are obsessed with the Johnson lol

This Johnson keeps getting shoved in our face.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura He’s a leader and change maker. Shove shove shove. 
 

Teaching people to sleep, exercise and eat healthy to me matters a lot for a well functioning society. 
 

I am willing to admit that I’m wrong. 
 

However, I take his supplements:

1. Longevity Mix

2. Creatine

3. Essential tabs

4. Ashwghanda and Rhodelia 

5. NAC, ginger cucumin.. 

I personally notice I feel really good throughout the day. I’m also taking fibre and probiotics which healed my recent stomach issues. 
 

I measure my sleep and activity score everyday with my Oura ring. My sleep is improving and my stress has gone down too. However, there are personal reasons for this the supplements can’t fully account for. 
 

Ive notice increased mental clarity, focus creativity. I can’t say for certain, but I really enjoy them. I think creatine for me is huge. 
 

I want access to the best foods, supplements, materials, books, teachers, courses, techniques etc for living a long healthy life. I personally like Bryan and the Blueprint brand. Yes, it is expensive. You can buy the same supplements elsewhere or not at all. 
 

I am willing to adjust over time. 
 

A lot of the substances the OP shares has to do with his hair growth protocol… yeah I’m open to that. 
 

Also, some people have claimed he doesn’t share biometrics that show he is unhealthy. Notice how that’s unfounded claim. we don’t know that. I’ve seen him shared publicly his protocol fails in the past why wouldn’t he do it again? 
 

He is a weird looking guy. Some of his protocols I think are not interesting to me. But, that’s not the value he gives me. Just like I don’t want to be Leo Gura I don’t want to be Bryan Johnson. 

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[Thought Art]

I remember when life purpose and personal development was a theme of this place… I see a lot of people talking and judging but doing nothing. 

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[Thought Art]

22 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

That's cause he lives off mostly artificial things and supplements. You simply cannot out-do nature, that is the very downfall of humanity and root cause of our dis-ease in the world today. He looks very deathly but its his journey and experience, eventually he will come to his senses, hopefully.

 

This is called the appeal to nature fallacy. He eats a lot of whole foods everyday also…. Are you being balanced?

 

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[OBEler]

@Thought Art Look at his hand, which he cant hide with his makeup. Looks old. 

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

Let's not forget social / health influencers exist to sell you things.

Housing, income, food access, education, social connection / safety, stress, safety, healthcare access - these are bigger social determinants of health. These things have a bigger impact on people's health than any morning routine ever will. But many of these issues dont have the ability to sell you something. Bryan's stuff tends to mix the two. Bullshit it always served up along with truth. There is something being sold. Sleep - wearables/mattress, food - his suppliment line etc. Fitness - wearables. Air - filters. Hair - red light caps. Temperature monitors. It goes on.

Health "influencers" are not legitimate forms of information, they are generally just freelance marketers with affiliate links.

Don't forget this. The presentation can create an illusion that health is mostly a technological optimization problem. It's wise to approach the social influencer ecosystem with the same skeptesism you would advertising.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

21 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Thought Art Look at his hand, which he cant hide with his makeup. Looks old. 

I think it could be circulation problems - he has thyroid issues he takes medication for. 

His eyes are constantly looking very irritated which I don't quite understand. Unless he has Graves disease. Eye irritation can be linked to thyroid issues. He looks worse than be did prior to losing the weight, but he reports to feel better + better health data. 

[OBEler]

@Natasha Tori Maru He probably feels good. A  junkie feels also good if he has stable supply on drugs. 

[Thought Art]

@OBEler Regardless, his commentary on sleep, nutrition, exercise and our toxic food supply chains and fast food companies are true. All his supplemental products and nutrition products have science behind them and are third party tested his food plans are available for free and align with nutrition experts I’ve seen in the past. 
 

His appearance is odd. Always has been. He looks the best he has, from what I’ve seen. He is older, and didn’t live that healthy for most of his life and damage has been done already. I wonder why his eyes are red, or what happened prior to him being on camera. Worth wondering. 
 

Calling him a drug addict is a weird accusation in my opinion. I don’t follow that. He kind is kind spoken, teaches practical health advice and is motivating for health conscious people. He seems to be focused and inspired by health, longevity and enjoying life in a healthy way…. I don’t see the issue with that. 
 

Don’t die from preventable diseases that are lifestyle related is a fair purpose. 
 

I don’t know the extent of his personal health. I know he has data on all his organs. Not all of them are healthy. But, he has good biometrics according to him. But, none of us truly know. 
 

Appearance is a way of judging for sure. But, I’m not convinced it’s enough because those are only snap shots. His eyes looked fine when talking to Theo Von recently…

He is a middle aged man. He’s gonna look like one. He looks fit. His face is weird and he has done strange procedures to it early on in his project too. 

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[PsychedelicEagle]

What do you guys have against BJ? 

Haha yea, he's unfortunately caught in 🔶 Orange paradigms: reductionism, self-maximization.

He has traces of 🟢 Green tho: psychedelics & veganism.

Quote

Go Johnson, go!!! Run as fast as you can from the golden hamster wheel of KPI enlightenment and into the tofu-scented forests of 🟢 Green before you optimize yourself into a PowerPoint singularity.  ~ GPT

Also a good example of how psychedelics use without proper spiritual/ontological/epistemological work gets you nowhere, or even more trapped in one's own worldview.

[Carl-Richard]

10 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

We would have to ask him that for sure. He reports he suffered greatly when he used to binge junk food every night after 7pm. I understand this was very distressing for the guy. He said he needed external help to overcome this binging - the structure of blueprint and the experiment itself assisted with the drive to stop.

He for sure felt it was a big problem in his life. Huge theme he speaks about it many podcasts. 

I mean does he suffer now with his current behavior (e.g. while maintaining his Blueprint protocol)? Does he feel it's a problem that is negatively impacting his life in some way? Even if he hasn't commented on this specifically, what would you guess? To me, there is a distinction between say a Howie Mandel ("I don't feel in control of my thoughts") and Bryan Johnson "we will conquer mortality". I guess unless he is so much in denial and blind to his own mental life that anything he says about his mental state is inaccurate, it would probably be hard to label it a "mental disorder", but perhaps again "personality disorder" is possible.

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[Thought Art]

I think he feels good, is inspired and enjoying his life. It’s a good project.

He is immortal anyway. Let’s see how he evolves. 
 

Most of the criticisms I see here come from simply having different values, many are short sighted, hypocritical, come from below, are assumptions, guesses, don’t take into account lots of information etc. 

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[Godhead]

40 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

I think he feels good, is inspired and enjoying his life. It’s a good project.

He is immortal anyway. Let’s see how he evolves. 
 

Most of the criticisms I see here come from simply having different values, many are short sighted, hypocritical, come from below, are assumptions, guesses, don’t take into account lots of information etc. 

but have you looked at his hands?!

 

[Rigel]

He isn’t that bad considering that the new rich white guy meta has become fucking children in a private jet while evading the law.

He sells third party tested supplements and tells you to go to bed on time.

[eos_nyxia]

There is a certain kind of sadness and desperation (like a kind of existential emptiness and not being at peace with that)  which tends to follow around the formerly religious like a scent. As if they are trying to fill the void with some new kind of religion, whether it's New Age spirituality, another religion, a food-based "religion" (like veganism, specifically if they're dogmatic and evangelizing in an extremely aggressive way), or turning some other niche into a whole-ass ideology. It could be fitness, it could be intellectualism or anti-intellectualism, techno-utopianism, or something else entirely. 

Food-based "religions" (particularly as a Western phenomenon) is an obsession with foods as a sort of moral marker of purity, and the obsession with remaining pure or worthy in this way, which in turn calls for demonizing others. There might be a point to reducing the load placed on your body, there is a point to ethical cocerns, but I'm simply referring to the emotional and thought processes attached to it and the attachment to specific identity markers.

What you demonize in others you reject in yourself, and that always has a cost. 

He was raised as a hardcore Mormon, wasn't he?

If he doesn't believe that he's going to get a Mormon afterlife, then he at least wants to live forever? (Which I get, but I still find sad. Who wants to live entirely like themselves as they know themselves..... forever.... just because they are afraid?)

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[eos_nyxia]

He's an almost 50 year old guy with not a lot of melanin. I'm not sure what sort of cosmetic procedures he has had done as well. He also has really low body fat, doesn't he? None of these factors really help with aging. For cosmetic work, the result can be a wildcard even with "good" work, especially with new procedures seemingly being implemented at least every 5-10 years. The long term result isn't always known (e.g. the migration of fillers, undissolvable fillers). Very low body fat makes everyone look older. East Asians tend to have more face fat by default which helps with the appearance of aging even if we also lack the melanin. 

I think he looks fine enough, though I guess you could ask if that amount of effort is worth the reward (looks wise). IDK.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

People really think that diet or controlling external lifestyle factors fixes everything, don't they? The obsession with the visual aspect of aging has gotten completely out of hand. 

Edited 1 hour ago by eos_nyxia

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@eos_nyxia I feel, similar to yourself, there is a portion of his previous Mormon upbringing being transferred faith wise into his blueprint protocol. 

It's actually really about letting an AI algorithm take total control of your life. You aren't allowed to deviate. Total surrender to it.

He outlines this in his celebrity / elite "don't die" dinners. It is the core behind the surface advertisement of blueprint.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

@OBEler I think he has that "uncanny valley" look to him that is a strong turnoff for many humans. 

There's some research out there shedding light on humans having a mild fear response to organisms that look close to human, but not quite.