Drama Alert! Another YTber is calling us a cult! 😈☦️

[JoshB]

On 6/3/2026 at 6:39 PM, Inliytened1 said:

To me its a pursuit of Truth.  And let's face it not everyone is gonna make it with meditation.  So psychedelics are emphasized here.  I don't agree with Leo on everything.  And if this was a cult you and I would probably have been "quietly" dismissed by now.  I don't agree that psychedelics can give you a deeper enlightenment than meditation.  We differ in that awakening is awakening and it is Absolute.   There are not Infinite degrees of awakening.  There isn't some crazy alien state you can reach.i  do agree however that Consciousness is not human either it is Pure Spirit.  The human part is, as we know, this imaginary ego that co-opts Consciousness for itself.   So if you look back I've had plenty of arguments with Leo about this stuff.  And I'm still here.  His work is invaluable if someone actually wants to put in the time.  But be careful because you will lose your sanity and you just might not get it back.  This is stated.  Such is spirituality.  It is serious shit.  But normies don't understand any of this stuff so to them it appears crazy.  Of course.  That is how it should be. 

 

There are infinite degrees of awakening, why do you think so many people agree and disagree on what awakening is? If it was just a binary switch there would be a lot more agreement on what awakening is. Conciousness is Absolute and can become concious of absolutely every part of itself. I would also say that there are thresholds to awakening, you can awaken to life is a dream, self is other, nothing outside concious. And still not have the direct Conciousness you are God. Another one of those thresholds is realizing conciousness is absolute. 

Also you have never done pyschdelics let alone tryptimines. So how would you know that ? All of this is coming from your current state of conciousness that could change any moment with just a little alteration in your imaginary brain chemistry.

Edited 2 hours ago by JoshB

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Dude what ?! Why would you want to be part of corruption? You and your friend are causing noise lately in accusing Leo of corruption. Why are you pussyfooting around it ? Ok case closed this is a cult in your mind then keep it to yourself. It obviously hurts Leo and people who look forward to him as a teacher to hear your constant bitching about how he did this and that in the past . Sounds like you are not even serious about you’re doing on top of that because you’re afraid to leverage up your position to just say farewell. If that’s not the purpose then what’s the purpose of what your doing regarding your posts about actualized being a cult ?

We're honestly discussing what a cult is and when people want to steer the discussion about talking about negatives, that's what happens. That's a function of Leo insisting on defining a cult as something negative and his minions constantly begging for any clue that could satisfy that definition.

Had this been my forum or had I been having this discussion in one of my earlier university classes, we would probably talk about how weird your beliefs really would have to be to be considered a cult, not the level of "brainwashing" or "mind control" is supposedly required (although that could be a side discussion about those kinds of cults).

My professor opened the discussion of cults saying "cults are not necessarily something bad, that's a usual misconception" (paraphrasing). Leo has chosen a different route and that is reflected in his discussions. When he wants to project the notion of cult as something negative and something external to him, don't be surprised that when people disagree, that projection lands squarely back at himself.