Drama Alert! Another YTber is calling us a cult! 😈☦️

[Natasha Tori Maru]

That Conner call was a serious rebuke that needed to be doled out.

[Monster Energy]

Leo and Connor as a duo could be extraordinary. Together, they could become one of the most influential spiritual partnerships on the internet.

 

[Leo Gura]

26 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

Leo and Connor as a duo

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Thank you for clarifying. That rings a bell. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Thought Art

[AION]

A cult is not an either/or diagnosis. People always think a cult is only when the leader exploits its members for money, sex and other stuff but that is not the case. A cult is usually something that tries to mimic the order of God, but it is always perverse, claims exclusive truth and egocentric like certain death cults who consciously or subconsciously push their members towards death.

Edited 6 hours ago by AION

[Miguel1]

@Thought Art Nice to see you back.

What got you back?

[Thought Art]

@Miguel1 I’m not 

I think I had a healthy break. I had to work through forgiveness with Leo on something too. 
 

Not sure to the extent I’m back. 

[Lyubov]

Call this place a cult, or not. His criticism is valid. This place is a dangerous for some people. Half the community are incels and unemployed people who haven't built a life for themselves and aren't fully grounded in themselves or their integrity. The teachings here are reckless. Leo has gotten better over the years with what he teaches, but his old library is still up. Leo is honestly super autistic and lacks maturity and wisdom to guide most people seriously in my opinion. You have to be able to keep up with his style and his chemistry and his ability to alter his state. And he is thinking of running a retreat with security armed with tasers, a tour up Mt Everest. I hope you're prepared for this because this is the one thing which if even the slightest thing goes wrong, your entire image will be fucked. The criticism is valid. Still Leo is an interesting person and a great writer and I do like him a lot, so his insights are really cool to read and learn from especially on certain topics I gravitate towards.

Oddly I don't come here for spiritual teachings, I come for insights more on life and new was of thinking/reasoning. You can split hairs calling this place a cult but yeah, Leo can be an unsafe person to lead. There are much safer and better people to learn psychedelic protocols from. A lot of unwell people will gravitate towards this personality type that lets one give up their responsibility and kowtow to a model and terms of thought that you should be sovereign and the center of yourself, your spirituality. I'm fine with videos like this. The average person should be aware that actualized.org is a dangerous place. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Lyubov

[lostingenosmaze]

@Lyubov Leo Gura when people annihilate themselves after saying annihilating actualized.org would be the most beautiful thing ever:

Edited 2 hours ago by lostingenosmaze

[Cred]

55 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

Leo is honestly super autistic

Wait you think Leo is autistic???? Whaaat?

[No1Here2c]

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

The average person should be awares that actualized.org is a dangerous place. 

Leaving the house is a dangerous place. Being in the house is a dangerous place. Sleeping is a dangerous place. Hell, even your dreams are a dangerous location to your dream self. Welcome to limited existence. Pick your poison.

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

You have to be able to keep up with his style and his chemistry and his ability to alter his state. 

insights are really cool to read and learn from especially on certain topics I gravitate towards.

Everybody has personal style & chemistry. There is no obligation to 'keep up' as you might be able to tell by some of our members here :}

State alteration is not a requirement, but it sure is wicked useful.

Insights are cool, but that is only the tip of the insight iceberg. Insights go wayyyyy beyond cool. Insights can be awe inspiring, terrifying, beautiful, magical, unsettling, love inducing, disturbing, incredible, hellish, divine, good, bad, or indifferent. Insight can be survival assisting or stifle those abilities. It can be traumatizing, or healing in masterful ways. You could never imagine what insight is capable of without first having it, as insight itself is what lies beyond your current vision & imaginative capabilities. It is like breaking through into another layer of reality. Like living your entire life in two dimensions, suddenly to realize there is a third.

Edited 2 hours ago by No1Here2c