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I finally got the reason behind antisemitism

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I finally got the reason behind antisemitism. I think the reason behind antisemitism is this: jewish people are tribal. Because judaism is reserved to the jews and there's no proselytizing, jewish people tend to be closed off to other people. They have a poignant identity, yet the community rarely accept outsiders to become part of it. Hence unlike other religions which are designed to be universal, judaism easily creates a sense of other in other people's mind, which can easily turn into a shadow, where people end up demonizing the jews for their elitism and ethnocentrism. 
So antisemitism is a direct cause of the foundation and particularism, as well as tribalism special to the jewish identity, and jewish religion. 

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Jews are self-serving so of course other tribes don't like it. That's the nature of tribalism.

It is a feedback loop of Jews being self-serving, then other groups look at them negatively for that, and then that gives reason for Jews to be even more self-serving to protect themselves, which gives more reason for other groups to hate them, thus creating a self-fulfilling cycle of tribalism.

It is like a Chinese finger-trap. The more you pull, the tighter it locks.

Gypsies also work this way. But really, all tribes work this way. That's why tribalism ends in genocide.

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@Leo Gura Every tribe is self-serving, but more than that, jews do not accept outsiders by in large to join their community. Which can create an elitism and a clannish vibe, which other tribes won't like. It's the same with right wingers in Europe or America who are anti-immigration, they think that by placing too high of a standard for who gets to join their nation, they will minimize ethnic clashes between civilizations. But on the opposite what it does is create resentment in others, which creates a hatred towards Europeans and Americans let's say coming from other nations like the middle east, Africa, India, Pakistan, south and central America... But again, right wingers do have a point in that, too much immigration, erases the existing culture, because by in large, asking people who come from other nations and cultures to assimilate, by forgetting their cuisines, songs, languages, traditions, religions...isn't a serious political project. 

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If that was true, there wouldn't be any Jews alive today. But Jews co-existed with Christians and Muslims for thousands of years, and were always part of the demographic in the middle east. Wars happened between Christians and Muslims and Jews, and in-between each of them. Nothing special there, just regular tribalism.

Anti-semitism actually is a fairly new idea, originated as a form of racism/xenophobia in Europe, then transferred to many Arab nations as part of their national and ethnic identity.

And more recently it's become a political correctness weapon to marginalize and nullify any opposition to Zionism.

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Because they are dangerous to the original government. They have people in their religion who are very intelligent and will leech off your system and eventually take it over to serve their religion.

They follow the rules but they also use their influence and power as a group while doing this.

Its extremely toxic to any non jew society.

If any other people except jews did this the people of the country would not accept.

But the jews have convinced the country that they are 'Gods people'.

Its like soft takeovers Russian does to Ukraine.

All tribes work this way all people who immigrate do this, but the Jew specifically do it maliciously.

They know they have to penetrate the system and work it and they do it and that makes them specifically dangerous.

Immigrants come over to the country and work hard and be polite and work up.

A jew will come in specifically make friends with the highest power person, do plans behind the scenes, throw out propaganda, leech the system as much as possible, all in the name of gaining power for their religion in the area, not making it better for everyone.

The reason fingers are being pointed specifically at Jews is it seems like Leo says, they are pulling their finger trap the hardest.

 

They use the countries rules against itself. Maliciously.

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I have a completely different perspective. Quite a lot of groups are tribal and closed off.

The real reason for antisemitism is because when the Roman Empire became Christian, the Jews were the one group that did not convert. This made them into an other for everyone else.

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These are truncated and simplistic views presented here thus far.

In order to understand a human being, you must understand the politics in their psychology.

In order to understand a tribe to a spcial structure, you must understand the psychology in their politics.

They cannot be separated.

And because neither politics nor psychology can be separated from sociology, it cannot be separated from philosophy. And because sociology and philosophy cannot be separated from biology and neuroscience, neither can politics and psychology. And because neuroscience and biology cannot be separated from ecology and environment science nor the study and science of systems... you get the point.

In any sociopolitical situation, you must endeavour to take political science extremely seriously as a subject that has its own ontological categories as a layer to understanding the human experience. At the very least if you are not properly educated on the above subjects trough the lens of systems science. This was the very purpose of establishing political science as a science to begin with, despite its lack of chivalry with actual geopolitical truth or just, truth in general, in short.

Subsequently then, I have designed a prompt one can use to begin learning about world news through the lens of Political Science Theory.

This will aid anyone interested in understanding this nuanced social situation involving the evolution of Jewish culture through a geopolitical and social context, along wth any other political situation that interests them.

These ontological categories are presented as soon as you implement the prompt,

You can learn the categories and get better and better at understanding their interactions as you get better at applying to ongoing and past wolrd news and social issues, both national and international.

https://chatgpt.com/share/69f9837a-b128-839a-8cda-c725aa59419b

I created this linked prompt example just now, after I wrote this entire comment "by hand" (which I get annoyed by the feeling that I have to continually disclose this among lack of outside reflective behaviours) in the figurative sense but applicable for appropriate comparison with the growing trend in AI use for writing without honest disclosure.

Turn the prompt into a file by copying and pasting it into a word document, converting it to pdf ans using as needed.

This is a new prompt created today as a consequence of a new ongoing development in my own life in the foreseeable future. I have created and shared a similar prompt in the past, this however outside of analysing world news, does through the filter of poltiical science theory. Feel free to propose improvements as you please.

Best regards.

And have faith in your own ongoing learning @Majed  . Learn to take a little more time, and not just any time, but on filling direct educational gaps. With a sense of inspired curiosity.

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30 minutes ago, oOo said:

 

These are truncated and simplistic views presented here thus far.

In order to understand a human being, you must understand the politics in their psychology.

In order to understand a tribe to a spcial structure, you must understand the psychology in their politics.

They cannot be separated.

And because neither politics nor psychology can be separated from sociology, it cannot be separated from philosophy. And because sociology and philosophy cannot be separated from biology and neuroscience, neither can politics and psychology. And because neuroscience and biology cannot be separated from ecology and environment science nor the study and science of systems... you get the point.

In any sociopolitical situation, you must endeavour to take political science extremely seriously as a subject that has its own ontological categories as a layer to understanding the human experience. At the very least if you are not properly educated on the above subjects trough the lens of systems science. This was the very purpose of establishing political science as a science to begin with, despite its lack of chivalry with actual geopolitical truth or just, truth in general, in short.

Subsequently then, I have designed a prompt one can use to begin learning about world news through the lens of Political Science Theory.

This will aid anyone interested in understanding this nuanced social situation involving the evolution of Jewish culture through a geopolitical and social context, along wth any other political situation that interests them.

These ontological categories are presented as soon as you implement the prompt,

You can learn the categories and get better and better at understanding their interactions as you get better at applying to ongoing and past wolrd news and social issues, both national and international.

https://chatgpt.com/share/69f9837a-b128-839a-8cda-c725aa59419b

I created this linked prompt example just now, after I wrote this entire comment "by hand" (which I get annoyed by the feeling that I have to continually disclose this among lack of outside reflective behaviours) in the figurative sense but applicable for appropriate comparison with the growing trend in AI use for writing without honest disclosure.

Turn the prompt into a file by copying and pasting it into a word document, converting it to pdf ans using as needed.

This is a new prompt created today as a consequence of a new ongoing development in my own life in the foreseeable future. I have created and shared a similar prompt in the past, this however outside of analysing world news, does through the filter of poltiical science theory. Feel free to propose improvements as you please.

Best regards.

And have faith in your own ongoing learning @Majed  . Learn to take a little more time, and not just any time, but on filling direct educational gaps. With a sense of inspired curiosity.

 

And notice how I missed formal Religious studies, and one most are not typically familiar with, the Cognitive Science of Religion.

This shows how easy it is to miss important categorical information while making on the fly connections, which I obviously am not immune to, so it is important to have healthy self-critique otherwise one experiences failure in their own improvement feedback loop.

That said, I do believe that Political Science done right, always encompasses formal Religious Studies, and or, that Religious Studies and its sub-fields like the Cognitive Science of Religion, are a branch to Political Science. Separation, creates the very division from truth we see in this thread, which further spreads ignorance and further future indirect to direct conflict between the subjects themselves, and the humans and human groups they connect to.

We all must take care on these sensitive subjects, otherwise what does that say about ones own character through the lens of social prudence?

Best regards.

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@Majed Closeness isn't created in a vacuum and can also be caused by fear. People tend to become anti to any group they are unfamiliar with. Overall I don't believe that some religions are consistently closed or open but that it depends on the era and the subgroup. If you meet an ultra orthodox group they will be, on average, less open to hear your views.

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If Jesus was a jewish rabbi, then how come so many people that follow faith in christ are antisemitic? is that an example of cherry picking certain things from a religion and ignoring others to suit themselves?

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Gypsies are just as tribal, and nobody cares about them. Jews are hated for a much more obvious reason: because they gain access to real power, they pull the strings in the societies where they settle. They don't put on entertaining dance and circus shows; they dominate finance, the media, then the politics. So, in the end, there's usually an antisemitic movement, like the one that might emerge in the US if Operation Epic Ridiculous continues down its seemingly inevitable path.

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On 5/5/2026 at 1:20 PM, Nivsch said:

@Majed Closeness isn't created in a vacuum and can also be caused by fear. People tend to become anti to any group they are unfamiliar with. Overall I don't believe that some religions are consistently closed or open but that it depends on the era and the subgroup. If you meet an ultra orthodox group they will be, on average, less open to hear your views.

People hated the Jews because they lived in their country and were much richer, more powerful, and more educated, and moreover, they didn't want to mix with them under any circumstances. They intermarried and helped each other, but within the framework of another culture.

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They are tribal plus they tend to be successful and people get jealous of success. Plus they tend to have power because of their success and wealth and the powerful end up typically becoming corrupt just because of human nature... doesn't really matter if a person is jewish, arab, or from north korea... give a human enough power and/or wealth and they all tend to act similarly. 

Right now most western politicians are addicted to the central bank printing press. Way too much corruption in just about every government globally, and it's hard to unsee it when you see how things really are, all you can do is practice radical acceptance. 

All this said, zionism was a cancer on this planet the 20th century.  Israel should never have been slapped in it's current location in 1948 driving the existing arab population out.  It's been a source of global instability ever since... and why did christians end up such zionists back then?  Religious brainwashing?  The brits are the ones who drafted the balfour declaration to set up a jewish state.... they had occupied that land.   The establishment never really talks about any of this.

Then again, as someone who believes more in science, it's not like any race of people has any "ancient claim" to any land... land belongs to whoever can take it and defend it, period. All races have been enslaved or taken land and had it taken sometime throughout history. 

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