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[zazen]

15 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The war in gaza was a war not a genocide. In a genocide all the gazans would dead, not 2% or them. And was largely instigated by Iran, which funds Hamas, with whom it shares the goal of eliminating Israel from existence.

A plausible one though because it isn't complete. Genocide also by definition means the intent to kill in part or in whole - so even if 100% isn't achieved, doesn't not make it one. Otherwise there would never be a genocide unless that race/people/nation-attempt at becoming a nation is made extinct.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/time-fact-checks-netanyahu-interview-countering-his-denial-of-bankrolling-hamas/ ''Netanyahu had reportedly said at a Likud faction meeting in 2019 that anyone who opposes a Palestinian state should support the funds for Hamas, the enemy of the Fatah-run Palestinian Authority.

When Time asked about the quote, Netanyahu replied: “That’s a false statement. I never said that.”

However, Time noted, besides the numerous reports of the 2019 comments, Netanyahu had reportedly said the same in a 2012 interview with journalist Dan Margalit. Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich also made the claim in a 2015 interview.''

21 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think these are two completely different cases and it's very obvious. The West pressured Russia by exploiting Ukrainian nationalism with an absolutely avaricious motivation: to disrupt the energy flow between Russia and Germany, weaken Russia, and, if possible, promote its Balkanization to plunder its resources. Furthermore, Russia had been using rhetoric of rapprochement with the West for years, even wanting to join NATO, etc.

But with Iran, the West doesn't pressure, it fears. Iran's absolute principle is hatred of the West and the destruction of the State of Israel. It invests enormous sums in weaponry and funding radical Islamist groups based on absolute hatred of Israel and west, as Hamas, Hezbollah or huties. 

Don't you see the difference? On one side you have Putin, a wise guy who seeks the prosperity of his people, and on the other the ayatollahs, guys who shout "Allahu Akbar" while hanging 15-year-old girls for being raped or gays, in public, while burning US and Israeli flags to go to paradise, all while stockpiling thousands of increasingly sophisticated missiles.  You don't need to be a brilliant analyst to see it.

So Putin's wise for seeking prosperity for his people - on terms he didn't have to subordinate his countries sovereignty - because they got nukes and are formidable. But Iran's barbaric because it doesn't want to subordinate its sovereignty either and has had a defiant posture against the West ever since against their own containment?

Domestic rhetoric doesn't mean they're going to act on it - it's part of domestic politics and they want people to rally around the flag when threatened by a external power. But I agree its not strategically wise. It's the same way Medvedev tweets out threatening remarks that increase tensions for no reason or on tv shows / news anchors being hawkish.

Regarding capability - the ayatollah they killed literally had a fatwa against nukes as a weapon. They signed up to the JCPOA that Trump ripped up. They were negotiating last year during which they got bombed. They were negotiating this year and went above and beyond the JCPOA that Trump could have taken and boasted about Peace in the Middle East like a retard - again they got hit DURING negotiations in which they were conceeding massively. Who's the one against peace then? And why do they keep flip flopping around?

My thinking is that they don't really want full economic integration of Iran because that will lead to Iran being a dominant player in the region - so they use the nuclear card and negotiations as a carrot push-pulling - to keep it strategically constrained - then gaslight the world about it being a threat. Same way US doesn't want India to rise in a way that threatens its hegemony, and the way China has risen within their same order and is now threatening their dominance - Iran is even more important to prevent because of Israel being near by.

 

Talks now of Israel thinking about Turkey next:

 

Israel seeks security by dominating the region and fracturing it, by which it will never find security.

Knawledge:

 

 

[zazen]

22 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Just to give me thoughts on the war.

 

I’m absolutely supportive of the Iranian people in their struggle to overthrow their oppressive Islamist government. The reason for this, is because I’m Lebanese, and I’m upset at the Iranian government for supporting Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is one of the worst things that has ever happened to Lebanon. That, and the PLO setting up shop in southern Lebanon, and the civil war.

Hezbollah is a vile organization. I’ve meet teenagers who were approached by the organization for recruitment. They keep dragging the country into war with Israel, and are largely responsible for sectarianism.

Lebanon is not a functioning state. The currency is one of the most worthless in the world, they suffered from the Beirut port explosion which was largely caused by corruption. The country went for a while without proper trash cleanup, sanitation, and an economic meltdown. And instead of focusing on this, Hezbollah will focus more on its obsession with Israel.

If we have to live in shit, that’s okay, just as long as Israel is destroyed.

The largest army in Lebanon is not the Government army, it’s Hezbollah. And when the new Supreme Leader of Iran was announced, they swore their allegiance to him. And Hezbollah is so massive, it’s considered a “state within a state”, as they practically own the South. The main government doesn’t really have autonomy in the south.

An army larger than the national army swearing its allegiance to a foreign head of state? Is this normal? 

Its so unfortunate - the region has been in chaos ever since Israel's occupation / US's domination of the petro dollar - with all the spillover affects its caused. PLO in the South, Israel coming in - Hezbollah filling in the vaccum - Iran bolstering them up as asymmetric deterrence to the point the can't be subordinate to the Lebanese state which is itself weak. The fact they can go into Syria and fight causing more chaos - and that protect the land bridge to Iran for supplies etc.

It's all geopolitics and power competition. If Israel could be at peace with the region and the Palestinian question resolved - things would calm down a lot. Lebanaon could re-build and get stronger to sub-ordinate Hezbollah as it should be etc. 

 

10 hours ago, LordFall said:

Good analysis 

That was great and in line with what I wrote a page back - comes down to corridors (trade) and currency (what that trade is settled in).  I believe Israel heavily influenced things to tilt towards this being done also, after watching the following:

 

[Nivsch]

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Edited Friday at 03:14 PM by Nivsch

[Jodistrict]

 In this video, Jeffrey Sachs provides a critical analysis of the escalating conflict between Iran, the United States, and Israel. He argues that U.S. and Israeli actions have plunged the region into turmoil, characterized by a "brutal war of aggression" against Iran.Here are the key points discussed in the interview:

Destruction and Escalation: Sachs highlights that the ongoing strikes have destroyed significant infrastructure in Iran, resulting in thousands of deaths and a severe economic catastrophe. He suggests this conflict could potentially lead to World War III due to the reckless actions of U.S. and Israeli leadership.

Economic Crisis: The blockade of the Straits of Hormuz has caused the worst energy supply disruption in history, leading to spiking oil prices and a looming global economic crisis.

Iran's Response: Iran's hardline stance, including closing the Straits of Hormuz and targeting U.S. bases, is framed as a response to an existential threat rather than simple aggression .

Failed U.S. Strategy: Sachs criticizes the U.S. for misjudging Iran, drawing parallels to past failures in Vietnam and Iraq. He argues that the desire for "regime change" is delusional and that the American people oppose further direct military intervention

Genocide Allegations: He strongly condemns Israeli military actions, describing their doctrine as indiscriminate killing of civilians and calling it a genocide in Gaza, which is now extending to Lebanon and Iran.

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, zazen said:

So Putin's wise for seeking prosperity for his people - on terms he didn't have to subordinate his countries sovereignty - because they got nukes and are formidable. But Iran's barbaric because it doesn't want to subordinate its sovereignty either and has had a defiant posture against the West ever since against their own containment?

20 hours ago, Hatfort said:

 

No, Putin is wise because he seeks stability, prosperity, and sovereignty for Russia. The ayatollahs are stupid because they seek the destruction of Israel based on the teachings of a medieval warlord they consider a god. Quite obvious right?

3 hours ago, zazen said:

plausible one though because it isn't complete. Genocide also by definition means the intent to kill in part or in whole -

Then any war is a genocide? Why do that demagoguery? You know that if Israel wants they would kill 1 million in one week with phosphorus bombs. It's an expulsion, it's bad enough, but it's not a genocide 

3 hours ago, zazen said:

the ayatollah they killed literally had a fatwa against nukes as a weapon.

Sure but nobody believes it. In Islam it's legitimate to lie the kafir

3 hours ago, zazen said:

My thinking is that they don't really want full economic integration of Iran because that will lead to Iran being a dominant player in the region - s

If Iran would stop burning flags and shouting death America every day in the congress, we would see what happens with integration 

3 hours ago, zazen said:

Its so unfortunate - the region has been in chaos ever since Israel's occupation / US's domination of the petro dollar

Yes, Middle west is not stable because America Satan, without the great Satan, Gaddafi, Saddam, the ayatollahs, Al Assad and isis would do party, hugs and dance . Also dance with the ottomans if the British wouldn't displace them.

Maybe you don't remember that Middle east except Iran was colonized by the turkish for 5 centuries, when any rebellion was suffocated with iron fist, without mercy. Example destruction of Diriyah

Later I will do an analysis of you, if you let me, then you can say if I'm totally wrong 

Edited Friday at 06:12 PM by Breakingthewall

[Butters]

I hope that people will stop making war ❤️

[Elliott]

Marines are being mobilized for deployment. May all these Epstein fighters die an honorable death. 🫡 #IServedInTheEpsteinWars

You Israelis better leave state, Iran is not showing signs of letting up, they will likely annihilate your nazi country.

 

Edited Friday at 10:28 PM by Elliott

[LordFall]

This war is turning me more religious, they did really predict this. From my understanding this will indeed be the last war of mankind and WW3. It's just getting started Iran has a massive strategic advantage here and their new leader mojtaba khamenei has way more military experience than his father. 

Peter Zeihan makes a great point here that now Iran's #1 military objective will be to actually develop a nuclear weapon and the US cannot afford to backdown now and just sue for peace as they pulled the rug of neutrality under their own feet.

May God bless mankind and we make it out of this a stronger more united species. 

[Elliott]

I give fox news and Donny the Diddler 3 days before they start saying that keeping the current regime is for the best. The gas prices are unsustainable for republicans, this will drive up prices on everything. No way we're headed for ww3 now, the u.s. looks to be losing miserably. The u.s. might lose so quick that China doesn't invade Taiwan, that's the u.s.' best case scenario, lol.

Hopefully our friends in Iran are safe, everyone is concerned about a nuke but this gives Iran the greenlight to massacre dissenters. All you expats on here can expat yourselves on the back for that bloodbath! Probably sending them to greet the Marines.

 

Edited Friday at 10:52 PM by Elliott

[Inliytened1]

27 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I give fox news and Donny the Diddler 3 days before they start saying that keeping the current regime is for the best. The gas prices are unsustainable for republicans, this will drive up prices on everything. No way we're headed for ww3 now, the u.s. looks to be losing miserably. The u.s. might lose so quick that China doesn't invade Taiwan, that's the u.s.' best case scenario, lol.

Hopefully our friends in Iran are safe, everyone is concerned about a nuke but this gives Iran the greenlight to massacre dissenters. All you expats on here can expat yourselves on the back for that bloodbath! Probably sending them to greet the Marines.

 

War of attrition.   This will end up backfiring on Iran who will run out.  And if not the US and Israel will land another big devastating punch like the initial one.

And of course no WW3..Iran isolated itself by foolishly lashing out at all its neighbors.  All the US has to do is wait.  

Edited Friday at 11:12 PM by Inliytened1

[Elliott]

 

On 3/13/2026 at 7:06 PM, Inliytened1 said:

War of attrition.   This will end up backfiring on Iran who will run out.  And if not the US and Israel will land another big devastating punch like the initial one.

And of course no WW3..Iran isolated itself by foolishly lashing out at all its neighbors. 

 

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All the US has to do is wait.  

Ya, lol. Wait forever.

Iran has been a self sustained country for 40 years, they don't rely on any outside supplies.

https://modern.az/en/dunya/581432/russia-sends-aid-to-iran-via-azerbaijan/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/china-has-sent-attack-drones-iran-it-discusses-ballistic-missile-sales

 

Educate yourself with a basic map

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Elliott

[Jodistrict]

Shahid Bolsen has an interesting take on this:

“Regarding current tensions, the speaker asserts that the situation involving Iran's actions "is not going to be allowed to spin out of control" (16:39-16:47).He explains that this is because global capital interests require regional stability, and therefore, there is a controlled "escalation ladder" set by the international financial elite that limits how far conflicts can go (16:49-16:54).”

It makes sense to me now why Trump is president.  People scratch their head and ponder why such an arrogant fool could be president.   But that is precisely why the Zionist billionaires put him in power. Because an arrogant fool can be controlled. 

[Wilhelm44]

9 hours ago, Elliott said:

Marines are being mobilized for deployment. May all these Epstein fighters die an honorable death. 🫡 #IServedInTheEpsteinWars

You Israelis better leave state, Iran is not showing signs of letting up, they will likely annihilate your nazi country.

 

If it gets too bad, this Israeli government will probably use their nukes, anything possible with these psychos.

[Elliott]

This is absolutely hysterical. Iran is gonna torpedo France's destroyers, I'll put money on it.

 

 

Financial Times

https://www.ft.com

Trump calls on China, UK and Japan to send warships to force open Strait of ...

3 hours ago — The attack came after US forces struck military targets on Iran's oil-export hub, Kharg Island. Donald Trump said the US had “obliterated 

 

 

 

Europeans have agreed to join the Epstein war. Hey Europeans, every terrorist attack that happens in EU next 30 years, ya, you deserve it. Cowardice doesn't pay.

 

 

 

 

The Jerusalem Post

https://www.jpost.com

11 hours ago — Five US Air Force refueling planes were damaged in an Iranian missile strike 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Elliott

[Jodistrict]

Some interesting facts to ponder on the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the former Supreme Leader of Iran, who was recently killed in a joint U.S.-Israeli military operation on February 28, 2026. While he projected an image of "pious frugality," investigative reports following his death have estimated his personal financial empire to be worth between $100 billion and $200 billion, which would place him among the richest people in the world. 

Given these facts, wouldn’t this have made the Ayatollah a major stakeholder in the continuation and success of the Western capitialistic system?  Why would he or any other wealthy leader in Iran want to destroy the West?   When you ponder facts like this, you can start to see that we the public are sold nothing but propaganda by the news media.  Behind the scenes, this is just a chess game being played for position by the power brokers.  This is why I tend to believe Bolsen that the financial elites have the power to place limits on how far the conflict can go.  But I don’t understand the underlying mechanics.

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[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

Some interesting facts to ponder on the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the former Supreme Leader of Iran, who was recently killed in a joint U.S.-Israeli military operation on February 28, 2026. While he projected an image of "pious frugality," investigative reports following his death have estimated his personal financial empire to be worth between $100 billion and $200 billion, which would place him among the richest people in the world. 

Given these facts, wouldn’t this have made the Ayatollah a major stakeholder in the continuation and success of the Western capitialistic system?  Why would he or any other wealthy leader in Iran want to destroy the West?   When you ponder facts like this, you can start to see that we the public are sold nothing but propaganda by the news media.  Behind the scenes, this is just a chess game being played for position by the power brokers.  This is why I tend to believe Bolsen that the financial elites have the power to place limits on how far the conflict can go.  But I don’t understand the underlying mechanics.

Netanyahu been saying since 92 that Iran are close to having nuclear weapons.

Iranians are smart people, but they really suck at building nuclear bombs apparently.

 

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[zazen]

4 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

Some interesting facts to ponder on the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the former Supreme Leader of Iran, who was recently killed in a joint U.S.-Israeli military operation on February 28, 2026. While he projected an image of "pious frugality," investigative reports following his death have estimated his personal financial empire to be worth between $100 billion and $200 billion, which would place him among the richest people in the world. 

Given these facts, wouldn’t this have made the Ayatollah a major stakeholder in the continuation and success of the Western capitialistic system?  Why would he or any other wealthy leader in Iran want to destroy the West?   When you ponder facts like this, you can start to see that we the public are sold nothing but propaganda by the news media.  Behind the scenes, this is just a chess game being played for position by the power brokers.  This is why I tend to believe Bolsen that the financial elites have the power to place limits on how far the conflict can go.  But I don’t understand the underlying mechanics.

Unverified but also I think it’s state or institutionally managed wealth - not his personal wealth. Due to sanctions they have a whole parallel economy and black money moving around. A lot of the wealth is in Iran (IRGC controlled industries) or some outside in property perhaps - def a leap from Western propaganda that Iran wants to destroy the West in that sense.

Im really conflicted on Bolsens take on Iran and have for a while taken his views with caution - I’ve honed in on his core blind spot which skews his analysis.

It’s that the US state is totally captured by capital interest - thus any state action must have capitals hand behind it - leading to rationalise its actions around that fact.

And amongst differing capital interest the most dominant faction is the Financial elite (FIC) financial-industrial-complex - that has eclipsed and outgrown the (MIC) - military industrial complex which was the old faction dictating foreign policy and profiting of wars.

His logic is - that FIC want stability for investability - they profit more from stable (emerging - global south) markets. And because they are trans national (don’t care for their host nation from which they grew - US) they are partnering with the new centres of power ( GCC, China, BRICS ) who have the same vision of stability, prosperity etc.

Trump is assumed to be amongst that “new money” faction of elites - also due to his close ties with the gulf countries and family business ties. So he’s on board with the vision and overseeing the dismantling of US empire so that multi polarity can emerge - that this FIC will profit from and who are invested in it.

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But now that war has kicked off - it needs to be rationalised. Hasn’t the US pivoted to the FIC’s plans and foreign policy which wants stability?

This is where he reaches IMO and becomes conspiratorial simply because of that core blind spot (US total capture by capital).

His theory is that insider pragmatists in Iran needed this war as a method to take out the hardliners in the way of reform/peace and stability. And that they are aligned on the vision but can’t come to peace due to these hardliners.

As if going to war is the efficient method lol it literally creates more hardliners “rally around the flag effect”. As if the new leader Motjaba was an inside man on the job and feeling pragmatic enough to make a deal after sacrificing his whole family.

I think the security state has its own logic, institutions and motives ie primacy of the US empire. Even if capital hollows out the nation state the empire state remains its own insulated domain that won’t be.

Capital has penetrated the state but not totally captured it to the point it dictates every policy - it may influence sure - but ultimately the state has its own logic of strategic dominance.

 

I think the security state has its own logic, institutions and motives ie primacy of the US empire. Even if capital hollows out the nation state the empire state remains its own insulated domain that won’t be.

Capital has penetrated the state but not totally captured it to the point it dictates every policy - it may influence sure - but ultimately the state has its own logic of strategic dominance. Hence why there is the national security strategy - talking of power, primacy and not just profit which Bolsen has totalised as the dominant logic and explanation behind all US behaviours.

Notice how he applies realism (states competing for security, power) to the gulf countries behaviours in Africa (Sudan, Somalia etc) but doesn’t apply it to the US - because he assumes the state isn’t its own actor - because it’s captured by capital who wants stability for investability.

All kinds of mental gymnastics need to happen to explain geopolitical events from that point on. Trump increasing military budget to 1.5trillion? That’s just for domestic policing and US’s own back yard - not the Middle East which is the future froth region the FIC are invested in lol

US doing sanctions, tarrifs, China tech containment - hurting capital interests - but I thought capitals captured the state Mr.Bolsen? Nope - they just clamped down on Anthropic for not following orders / which OpenAI did. State is the final authority - because they have monopoly on force - no amount of finance can become sovereign over - even if they can invest beyond the nation state itself.

 

It’s more simple: Iran is being tackled now because it’s weakened+vulnerable, has been a long time target, Israel heavily influencing also for its own needs/wants, and multipolarity is challenging the US empire/dollar of which Iran trades outside of - but that Russia and China are too catastrophic to go to direct war with.

Empire acting like empire during a phase it feels it’s losing its primacy in - trying to lock down any interests it can to reverse a trajectory it can’t - and miscalculating due to hubris typical of Kate stage empires - now stuck in a quagmire Iran is going to drag it through to change the balance of power in the region.

**Side note: I think Sunni Muslims have a bias against Shia Iran - perhaps they can’t accept Iran is the defiant one with balls whilst their states are down or subordinate satellites - so they’d rather have the glory of US empire defeat leading to regional stability and prosperity via BRICS - be attributed to their own GCC elites and Western Financial elites in on the plan. (I say this as a Sunni myself - one side of my family)

 

@ Forum - what you guys think? Is it plausible the state is captured to that extent.. I’m not sure but I highly doubt it.