Refelection on suicide as it relates to spirituality.

[Majed]

When you become God, you realize there is no difference between life and death. The only difference is that during life you're constrained to survive your organism, otherwise you die. When you become insane, you can willingly choose to surrender the survival of your oraganism, and choose suicide, which is escaping the hallucination of your own organism, and existing eternally as God.

[theleelajoker]

So what is it? No difference? Only difference?

I would say - HUGE difference. Being alive in this form, or not being alive in this form is as different as it can get.

[Majed]

@Majed People hate death and suicide, because they're life addicts. Also they have misconceptions about what death is. Death isn't about reincarnation or heaven or hell or nothing. Death is about a surrender of the body to infinite consciousness, which is God.

The dysfunction isn't suicide, the dysfunction is your relationship to death.

Edited Thursday at 11:44 AM by Majed

[Majed]

@theleelajoker This form is a construct of your own mind.

[theleelajoker]

3 hours ago, Majed said:

@theleelajoker This form is a construct of your own mind.

Ok, so what?

[Ramasta9]

If you have to commit suicide you haven't mastered the game, and still within it. Your meant to ascend out of it entirely  

Realizing or glimpsing you are God is one thing, total illumination / embodiment / liberation is an entirely different thing.

Edited 20 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Someone here]

Only depressed or miserable people or people in deep suffering commit suicide.  Has nothing to do with enlightenment. 

[Yimpa]

 

[Judy2]

it's kind of like being enlightened as a monk vs as a regular person having to handle financial attachments etc. you could argue that the monk has it easy because their life is set up in such a way as to discourage any sort of attachment they may have - so have they really mastered detachment, are they really enlightened?

i think the same logic can be applied to suicide: it's easy to exist undefined, as God. existing as a form that needs to survive WHILE maintaining detachment from said survival, that's the challenge. so is living through the ugliness and corruption of survival while ultimately still looking back and going "oh, that still counted though. that was still a valid form of Love, no matter how small and contracted". 

 

all these spiritual ideas on and around suicide, if anything, are more a case in point for human attachment to survival. if you weren't attached to your experience (suffering vs no suffering), you would not care about being alive. you would not even notice whether or not you are alive, because yes, indeed, there is no difference. 

[Leo Gura]

On 2/26/2026 at 3:06 AM, Majed said:

When you become insane, you can willingly choose to surrender the survival of your oraganism, and choose suicide,

Dude. You don't need to become insane to choose suicide. Millions of people choose it every year. Life is brutal and suicide is common. Has nothing to do with insanity or even spirituality.

Edited 12 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Majed]

@Leo Gura You missed my point which is that after insanity which results in you losing your human mind, and becoming God, you realize that there are no difference between life and death, except for the survival game you're playing, hence you can consciously choose to cut it off through suicide. This is a different thing from suicide as an escape from the brutality of life. This is more like a rational deliberate choice, even if your life is great, you can still prefer to die and stop playing the survival game. 

[Judy2]

@Majed how do you know that would work? maybe temporarily, but what happens then?

Edited 10 hours ago by Judy2

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Majed said:

you realize that there are no difference between life and death, except for the survival game you're playing

Doesn't everyone know this? You don't need to be enlightened to understand that suicide is always an option. A child understands this.

[vibv]

Death isn't real. But you'll not be able to have these experiences once you break that veil. Do you know how long it took for you to get here!?

Jeez, get a life.

[Ulax]

@Majed Maybe there is some spiritual truth to suicide and spirituality.

But I'd argue using spirituality as a justification for suicide is just an egoic rationalisation for the act.

[Yimpa]

What you really long to end is your need to control any of this. Reality is doing this all Perfectly.