Leo's DemystifySci Podcast Appearance

[LambdaDelta]

4 minutes ago, Basman said:

And I don't believe that you need gore to grow.

You don't need it, but it can be a nice tool. Like having a pentalobe screw head in your toolbox; it has narrow use, but there are things you can't unscrew with a Phillips. 

9 minutes ago, Basman said:

It's also just aesthetically ugly. Watching the worst moments of people's live for entertainment. That's gross and makes you look freak.

Looking at aesthetically ugly things is a shortcut for understanding and appreciating aesthetics. In every domain, not just visually. You look at Trump's behavior and quickly know to do the opposite. How it appears from the outside is of no import. 

[Terell Kirby]

58 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Let’s remember to keep this thread about the podcast.

kinda hard when the topic of molestation is thrown in the mix

[Miguel1]

2 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

kinda hard when the topic of molestation is thrown in the mix

That’s why I am intentionally derailing it back

[Sandroew]

Just one more thing… i just cant go by without professing my admiration to the Aussie slang.

But we are not here to fuck spiders.

[Miguel1]

1 hour ago, Sandroew said:

But we are not here to fuck spiders.

Oh stop it! 

[Basman]

3 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

You don't need it, but it can be a nice tool. Like having a pentalobe screw head in your toolbox; it has narrow use, but there are things you can't unscrew with a Phillips. 

Looking at aesthetically ugly things is a shortcut for understanding and appreciating aesthetics. In every domain, not just visually. You look at Trump's behavior and quickly know to do the opposite. How it appears from the outside is of no import. 

You could say the same about cutting yourself. Not convinced. Like, why are you so attached to it? there's 99% chance that it has nothing to do with growth. 

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Sandroew @Miguel1

I'll voicecap my feral accent for fun and upload it  

[Sandroew]

31 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Sandroew @Miguel1

I'll voicecap my feral accent for fun and upload it  

Crikey, send some vegemite as well and she will be apples!

[UnbornTao]

On 2/25/2026 at 8:32 PM, Nemra said:

Yes.

Before I used them, I invented a bunch of scenarios in my head of what would happen to me.

However, I was so wrong. Wrong to a radical degree.

It's not a mere experience. It's beyond that.

It's was like stripping away of all my constructions that I have invented in a few seconds.

Direct consciousness.

Also, you say I believe in Leo, and then you bring up the masters. We should be consistent, shouldn't we?

Listen to both, but consider they're called masters for a reason. 

In any case, this is a waste of time. Have at it.

[UnbornTao]

@Leo Gura  Have you had the chance to turn into an alien yet?

I swear, people need to calm their cultish predisposition a bit as a general rule. Some of you can be quite impressionable and credulous behind the scenes despite what's said about 'Sovereignty of Mind' and all that nonsense.

Don't just take Leo's words for it. And don't get confused when uppercase letters are added after 'Awakening.' Leo is smart and can be charismatic but I feel that the relationship a lot of people have here is just that of a subscriber or follower.

Some basic scientific principles and rigor would do you good if you don't want to simply be a sycophant or acolyte - which I fear many are, even unconsciously. And Leo is certainly full of shit, too. I feel your automatic reactions tend to be believing him and being far too charitable - and again, in many cases, this obviously is still occurring despite what's claimed on the surface.

Was this supposed to be a religion in the first place - or not?

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[UnbornTao]

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[LambdaDelta]

19 hours ago, Basman said:

Like, why are you so attached to it? there's 99% chance that it has nothing to do with growth.

I have no particular attachment to gore itself, there's other similar practices I mentioned 

On 2/24/2026 at 10:46 PM, LambdaDelta said:

Some months ago shortly after the peak of a powerful LSD trip I browsed r/MedicalGore and was awestruck by absolute Beauty; that's a gear higher than Leo watching porn on 5-MeO-DMT. I also like to stare at pictures of demonic entities and listening to music in endless loops until breaking through to Love. Such a radical approach won't suit everyone, but it's a tried and true principle that whatever disgusts and disturbs you most veils behind it the deepest Love.

Which is exactly what yesterday's blog post is describing 

https://www.actualized.org/insights/squaring-ugliness-with-beauty

I simply happened to intuitively realize this even before logically connecting evil & ugliness to Love, Beauty, Goodness, Equality, Balance, Totality, Truth, etc. through direct consciousness. Which of course includes my own evil and ugliness, that's the whole point — to see it in yourself through the mirror of 'other'. 

And that's just the tip of the iceberg, really. There are places you can visit so imbued with evil it makes you physically sick, speaking from experience.

Statistically you are of course correct, but your model will be made better if it also accounts for the remaining 1%. Not sure why people are so stubborn about this.
In essence we're all freaks here just by virtue of doing this work, but some freaks are freakier than others.
There's numerous avenues for growth, it's as you say; for instance one can grow tremendously by becoming a parent, I respect that and acknowledge the fact I wouldn't dare take this path even if I biologically could. 

P.S.: nothing wrong with cutting yourself either (provided it's performed in an anatomically safe and sterile manner); I've done it a few times out of curiosity, not self-hatred or attention seeking. One of the central ideas of Psychology of Conformity was that the why matters more than the what and how. 

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[Leo Gura]

46 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Have you had the chance to turn into an alien yet?

Yes

[Majed]

@Leo Gura check out my post about how i realized alien mind/consciousness in the spirituality section. 

[UnbornTao]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes

Sure. Provide the recording you said you'd have of yourself turning into one. We'll be waiting.

Or just stop insisting on the drugs so much and call a subjective state what it is. Call it a new flavor of awakening or something - but do it, if you care about what's true. If not, then don't sell crap to people. That's my suggestion.

[Majed]

@UnbornTao Dude you're embarrassing yourself. 

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Sure. Provide the recording you said you'd have of yourself turning into one. We'll be waiting.

Or just stop insisting on the drugs so much and call a subjective state what it is. Call it a new flavor of awakening or something - but do it, if you care about what's true. If not, then don't sell crap to people. That's my suggestion.

You do not understand what I am talking about. And I am not going to bend over backwards to indulge your closedmindedness.

[UnbornTao]

26 minutes ago, Majed said:

@UnbornTao Dude you're embarrassing yourself. 

Haha. Leave some Kool-Aid for the others.

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[UnbornTao]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You do not understand what I am talking about. And I am not going to bend over backwards to indulge your closedmindedness.

That's essentially your default response to any confrontation. But you said you'd provide a video, didn't you?

If you find that you can't, in fact, do what you promised, then it might be time to admit you were wrong. Isn't that part of your philosophy?

To be clear, you can be closed while appearing open. I think this is a clear case of that. After all, what people might hear in these exchanges tends to be, 'Someone claims X,' and the one who says 'no' to that is seen as closed-minded. Maybe not. You can be open and still say no to nonsense. Insisting on BS is closed-mindedness.

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[Leo Gura]

@UnbornTao You are too closedminded to understand what Alien Awakening is. So that lesson is lost on you. Alien Awakening is real, but you will never realize it.

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