Rhythm vs Melody

[Carl-Richard]

44 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys are being all smart-ass with me. But there is a reason why pop-music is so melody-focused. Because what I said is true: what sells music is a delicious melody.

Normie music.

[Leo Gura]

21 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Normie music.

The cope that lovers of dub-step tell themselves when they go to sleep at night

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Eskilon]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys are being all smart-ass with me. But there is a reason why pop-music is so melody-focused. Because what I said is true: what sells music is a delicious melody.

Just because something sells, doesnt mean its good or desirable. Taylor Swift music sells, doesnt mean its good. Selling is a normie criteria for things. Its like you became a marketer for a second lmao.

Edited 5 hours ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Just because something sells, doesnt mean its good or desirable. Taylor Swift music sells, doesnt mean its good. Selling is a normie criteria for things. Its like you became a marketer for a second lmao.

It's not just about selling though. It's about appeal.

Taylor Swift music is appealing. Even if it ain't your style. Dub-step is not appealing except to a few freaks. Which is why it will never out-sell Swift.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[musicandmath111]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Rhythm has less dimension to express that character. Just like rice in a dish doesn't add character to the dish.

This is so f*cking wrong. Listen to Tigran Hamasyan.

(a few of my favorite songs by him: Nairian Odyssey, Ancient Observer, What The Waves Brought, Vardavar)

[Xonas Pitfall]

50 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not just about selling though. It's about appeal.

Taylor Swift music is appealing. Even if it ain't your style. Dub-step is not appealing except to a few freaks. Which is why it will never out-sell Swift.

Not true . . . ? 

Music history alone shows that what people find appealing changes drastically across cultures and time periods.

Imagine introducing Taylor Swift’s music into an era shaped by classical concert traditions, court music, and formal composition standards. Compared to the musical language of the time, her melodies would likely be heard as harmonically simple and structurally repetitive, not refined nor serious.

And if you place her music in periods where religion was far more pervasive and moral norms were stricter, the lyrical themes alone would likely be considered scandalous or inappropriate. What’s seen as normal pop today could easily have been dismissed as degenerate or offensive back then. I can easily imagine Stage Blue churchgoing grandmas and priests in the early 1800s reacting with disgust, thinking, “This is what our children listen to? Where are the holy bells? The chants? The worship of God, the sense of spiritual ascension? Where is the breath of fresh air and love? What is this? Is the devil himself Taylor Swift?” both melodically and lyrically. In the same way, many heterosexual men might feel repulsed by a postmodernist ad today.

[musicandmath111]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nobody buys a song for its beat.

You are wrong. I do. This beat is nothing but jaw dropping, but apparently only for those who have enough musical intelligence. (05:28-06:24)

 

Edited 4 hours ago by musicandmath111

[Xonas Pitfall]

6 minutes ago, musicandmath111 said:

You are wrong. I do. This beat is nothing but jaw dropping, but apparently only for those who have enough musical intelligence. (05:28-06:24)

 

Funky! 🤹‍♂️

[musicandmath111]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Taylor Swift music is appealing. Even if it ain't your style. Dub-step is not appealing except to a few freaks. Which is why it will never out-sell Swift.

This dude easily outperformed Taylor Swift's entire repertoire with this one improv. Same melody, same rhythm, so what is different? The chords! Melody is NOT the main thing Mr Leo. Yes certain styles are niche because they are high consciousness, while mainstream music, which primarily focuses on memorable and repetitive melodies, is low consciousness (for the most part). This remix is 10x better than her original song (Lavender Haze) (full remix starts at 04:19).

 

Edited 4 hours ago by musicandmath111

[musicandmath111]

Seriously @Leo Gura you are musically simpleminded, and your pathetic playlist proves it.

[Nemra]

If you are musically inclined and practice some instrument, you'll notice more stuff about music, like with everything else.

However, you won't listen to or play music that doesn't move you, unless you're learning about music or practicing some instrument.

[Leo Gura]

@musicandmath111

 

[Basman]

Melody, but for techno music it's closer to a 50-50 relationship. 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, musicandmath111 said:

Seriously @Leo Gura you are musically simpleminded, and your pathetic playlist proves it.

To balance out Leo's troll response, I'll musical-intelligence-mog with one of the most intelligent and probably the most original musician I know 🗿:

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Carl-Richard