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Does diet affect spiritual work?

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If any of you are vegan/vegetarian (or have tried it in the past), did you notice any impact on your spiritual work?

On one hand, I understand the idea that we should aim to reduce the suffering of all beings (including animals). But I’m also dealing with some health issues, and I have found I feel my best when I eat some (quality and organic) red meat - probably thanks to the bioavailable iron and various vitamins. Is this a selfish thing that is hindering my spiritual work?

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"Just because the rabbit screams louder then the carrot, it doesn't mean it's more alive" 🥕 

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Yes I have tried this directly, vegetable-based diets tend to break down easier in the stomach therefore stealing less prana from the mental space, making you more energetic and clearheaded. They usually call it Sattvic diet but I suggest you do the experiment to see what works for you personally. 


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Do whatever you want, asking these questions is hindering your spiritual progress 

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What thing do you mean it is hindering your progress?

If you ask me, true goodness is managing your nutrition consciously. You would spread more goodness that way.

People destroy their lives and other people's lives because of bad diets. And you ask if you could achieve higher states. Corruption might not be necessarily the killing of animals for consumption. 

 

 

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Ok, not many will take it seriously, but this is life changing advice.

Learn about food combinatorics. 

Your digestion time can go from 24 hours+ to an hour. :P

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@Human Mint You are trying to become one with reality. If you dont want to stop eating meat and try, everytime you dont do what you want you will fight in your mind with reality. You need to enter flow, not should I or should I not do this, then not wanting to do it when you do it,for the sake of being morally superior. You want to become one with your dream. If you had a dream and there was chicken in front of you you dont say im to morally good for this you just eat it.

You can do other things like breathwork and meditation which will help more versus saying should I or should I not do this, even this is a mind game that needs to stop. Its not flow to do something you dont want to do its anti flow.

Like if you want to stop masterbating when you still want to do it. You want to but force yourself not to. That's not flowstate at all thats decoherance and is more harmful than good. If you want to jerk and find yourself with your dick in your hand just do it.

You can do practices to stop these situations from appearing in your conciousness but to think should I or should I not will just backfire. You go in flow and then add some practices and then you just won't do the things without even thinking about stopping them. And if you still want to do them then keep doing them.

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@HojoYou might have the motovation or dream to stop eating meat in which case makes a lot of sense for you to pursue that. Then you will realize whatever you need to realize. Play your game which is part of becoming one with the dream.

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@Human Mint if he did he wouldn't have to ask if its okay. This suggests he still wants to, so do it, thinking doing something you want to do will hinder your spiritual path will hinder it more than stopping without wanting too. Realizing you can do what you want and God won't judge you is way more powerful.

Not doing it out if morality is spiritual ego which you are trying not to do.

It can hinder in the sense that its like wearing steel toed boots compared to normal shoes. And if that's the case then stop eating all together then and go naked.

If you dont want to and exit flow everytime you want to eat it its better just to keep eating it.

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22 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Human Mint if he did he wouldn't have to ask if its okay. This suggests he still wants to, so do it, thinking doing something you want to do will hinder your spiritual path will hinder it more than stopping without wanting too. Realizing you can do what you want and God won't judge you is way more powerful.

Not doing it out if morality is spiritual ego which you are trying not to do.

The common mistake is people think veganism is spiritual ego because they don't comprehend how that mindset actually works, but it is actually a higher conscious way of living. It entails a more flexible mind which a lot of humans cannot get ahold of. And the mistake some vegans end up doing is they don't correct their nutrition if it goes poorly, at which point they're just masochists.

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Diet matters, but I think many people also overstate the significance.

I was vegan at one point. Now I eat meat everyday and my spiritual clarity has only increased.


"Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. 

I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay.

 And it goes On and On, On and On"

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7 hours ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

If any of you are vegan/vegetarian (or have tried it in the past), did you notice any impact on your spiritual work?

On one hand, I understand the idea that we should aim to reduce the suffering of all beings (including animals). But I’m also dealing with some health issues, and I have found I feel my best when I eat some (quality and organic) red meat - probably thanks to the bioavailable iron and various vitamins. Is this a selfish thing that is hindering my spiritual work?

Yes absolutely.  Eating healthy and staying sober will enhance your spiritual work.  Sauna is especially effective in aiding in meditation and meditative states.  Stay as clean as you can be.


 

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You have a body - and diet obviously plays a role in how it operates. What do you consider to be spiritual work?

This isn't to say that they're directly related in the sense that your diet determines whether you can have an insight or not. But again, it depends on how you're holding spiritual work. For example, fasting and caffeine are likely to influence your meditation sessions if you sit down to meditate. I guess the overall point is that consciousness of the truth isn't determined by your state. And you can contemplate regardless of your experience, whether you are bored, enthusiastic, sad, or jealous. 

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On 1/20/2026 at 6:25 AM, cistanche_enjoyer said:

If any of you are vegan/vegetarian (or have tried it in the past), did you notice any impact on your spiritual work?

On one hand, I understand the idea that we should aim to reduce the suffering of all beings (including animals). But I’m also dealing with some health issues, and I have found I feel my best when I eat some (quality and organic) red meat - probably thanks to the bioavailable iron and various vitamins. Is this a selfish thing that is hindering my spiritual work?

Significant impact yes, body is cleaner, energy flows better, stagnation and toxins are reduced, lymph system is cleansing and in circulation, connection to nature and the universe is cleaner / clearer, especially going into raw veganism and fruitarianism. Each step there is a noticeable shift in consciousness / clarity / perception/ sensitivity ect... 

Meat feels good physically because its a very binding/deeply grounding agent and full of animal-hormones thus drug-like effects on the human body, but comes with the highest karmic load or imprint unfortunately. Often its the critters within us that crave the meat that make us feel shit without it and good with it, but once you cleanse those critters out, pass the detox phase (which can take months), natural bliss, being and energy arises again.

You feel like a child again, fully alive and sober, realizing that most of the world is missing out on what true sobriety actually is, so they are constantly stuck in substances and stimulation, coffee, sugar, tv, media, psychedelics, meat, alcohol, smoking, its and endless cycle.

Eat fruit only for 3 months, your whole universe transforms because you are your whole universe and once the internal terrain is clean, the outside reflections the purity and cleanliness of within. As above so below, as within so without.

Its not easy in a world programmed and conditioned to live to backwardly and artificially, but with a good support group, strong will power, some good books and less distractions from the outside world, it can be done, and it only becomes easier. I've slipped up so many times... Only makes me realize nothing else makes me feel as good as the raw living food that nature provided already in its perfect state perfectly ripened by the sun that's full of energy and life.

Unfortunately a lot of the produce at the stores is picked unripe and traveled around for weeks and stored in fridges for months before it reaches your mouth so even this then becomes challenging because ideally you want to grow your own and pick when ripened off the tree for maximum energy and nutrition. I do my best to shop organic and local farmers markets so its closer and quicker from the source and day it was picked.

I never shop at supermarkets because I notice the difference now, only the occasional coconut or water i need.

Christ and Buddha both taught this and the importance of plant-based "raw food" for spiritual purification and cleanliness, but these texts have been ripped out of most Christian and Buddhist scrolls and hidden from humanity because most humans couldn't stomach those high level teachings because evil was still controlling them. "thou shall not kill" was the biggest most obvious one as well as Genesis 1:29 "I give you every seed-bearing plant and tree that will provide fruit, that will be yours for food". Only "The Essene Gospel of Peace and Way of the Essenes" contain the teachings about raw foods and purifying the body from evil/satan with fasting for at least 7 days.

There are many raw vegan / raw foodist and fruitarian groups out there in FB and youtube and such if you need support while (transitioning) if you feel this is your path, this forum is not one of them unfortunately. Lots of good books out there too like "Mucusless Diet Healing System" and "The Detox Miracle Sourcebook".  Many great sages and monks also speak of similar things but its becoming more challenging to find.

There is also a powerful book called "Mans Higher Consciousness" by Hilton Hotema, it goes very deep into this stuff.

Dr Robert Morse is also great https://www.instagram.com/p/DQ7JF2ZCZQV/

 


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