Science Podcast Appearance Coming Soon

[Rilles]

Wish I could watch this but I quit YouTube for 2026 so I guess I have to imagine it. Tada.

[Joshe]

6 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

At some point, I was in your position too. I took my 5-MeO breakthrough experiences to be far more significant than they actually were. In hindsight, I see those episodes as powerful events but ultimately meaningless - and certainly not "awakening." I'm not retroactively making or creating anything out of those experiences in my mind; they were essentially the same effect the chemical has on everyone else. It was self-deception based on wishful thinking and ignorance of what a direct encounter actually is.

When Leo dropped his 5meo video, I was like “holy shit I gotta try that”. I was super excited but I couldn’t easily acquire it, so it remained a desire for like 3 years. Within that time, much came to light. I realized that 5meo would be like any other psychedelic - you have a profound experience and then come back to reality. I saw the clinging, the obsession, the delusion, and the separation. It started to seem unwise. 

[CARDOZZO]

https://www.youtube.com/@MayimBialik/videos

Leo, talk to her. It would be a great convo.

 

[Human Mint]

15 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

That doesn't make it true, though.

This is more of the same performative charity. For starters, seriously consider the possibility that your position comes from a closed-minded stance, a particular cosmology or way of seeing the universe. The fact that you tend to associate drug experiences with so-called awakening strongly hints at this.

Again, if you're color-blind, I guess you're shit out of luck when it comes to having a Blue awakening.

The bells and whistles of "experience" can easily be conflated with a breakthrough. There's nothing you're aware of that is outside of your experience. Revisiting the other threads may help clarify this distinction, but listening is necessary. Sometimes we think we're after the truth when, in reality, we're chasing a fantasy.

At some point, I was in your position too. I took my 5-MeO breakthrough experiences to be far more significant than they actually were. In hindsight, I see those episodes as powerful events but ultimately meaningless - and certainly not "awakening." I'm not retroactively making or creating anything out of those experiences in my mind; they were essentially the same effect the chemical has on everyone else. It was self-deception based on wishful thinking and ignorance of what a direct encounter actually is.

At this point, if you haven't listened to Ramana, Adi Da, and the others, I don't think you'll drop this belief of yours. It's clear you're committed to Leo's notion. The "cult" remark mostly refers to the relationship many people seem to develop toward this work, which is clear from an outsider's perspective. Take into account the self-validating nature of belief systems.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

https://www.youtube.com/@MayimBialik/videos

Leo, talk to her. It would be a great convo.

Okay. Thanks.

[Inliytened1]

On 1/12/2026 at 0:04 AM, Leo Gura said:

I will be appearing on a technical science podcast soon. It is run by academics.

Probably within a month. We are still scheduling.

Should be interesting. I already had a friendly chat with them and it went well. They ask good skeptical questions. They are materialists but openminded.

I plan to be doing more interview appearances this year across various channels and platforms.

Who?  The podcasts aren't science you need to get in and debate with academia.  The other shit is nothing.  This YouTube crap won't make a dent.

Edited 15 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Joseph Maynor]

3 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Leo Gura and if you want to know why I won't do it is because I've already seen the futility in it.  Ive seen into material desires and I've seen it here.  It is completely futile. 

What do you suggest he do instead?

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Who?  The podcasts aren't science you need to get in and debate with academia.  The other shit is nothing.  This YouTube crap won't make a dent.

They are academics.

Academics have podcasts and channels.

I am not really trying to change dogmatic people, but talking to the openminded. A few people will appreciate what I am teaching.

My Curt Jaimungal interview got 200k+ views.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

3 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Leo Gura and if you want to know why I won't do it is because I've already seen the futility in it.  Ive seen into material desires and I've seen it here.  It is completely futile. 

everything is futile.
why do you keep posting about it though ?

-> same reasons

it still bring experience.

-> even if you believe you're fully and completely enlightened, there might still be subtle enlightment that are just as pleasant.
-> if you didn't believe it, you wouldn't be trying to convince "no one" or speak of anything, you would join the mountain or end your experience.

Edited 12 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Inliytened1]

4 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

everything is futile.
why do you keep posting about it though ?

-> same reasons

it still bring experience.

-> even if you believe you're fully and completely enlightened, there might still be subtle enlightment that are just as pleasant.
-> if you didn't believe it, you wouldn't be trying to convince "no one" or speak of anything, you would join the mountain or end your experience.

You're right i shouldn't be so pessimistic.  I was just in one of those moods 🙃 

We always need to keep up the fight. Im glad Leo is out there making a difference.  

Edited 7 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Ode]

Is Alex O'Connor out of question? It wouldn't be the easiest podcast to get to but it would be interesting to say at least.

[How to be wise]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

They are academics.

Academics have podcasts and channels.

I am not really trying to change dogmatic people, but talking to the openminded. A few people will appreciate what I am teaching.

My Curt Jaimungal interview got 200k+ views.

Why not talk to Alex O’Connor. He has a much bigger channel.

[Inliytened1]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

. A few people will appreciate what I am teaching.

 

No you're right i just get frustrated that almost no one gets this stuff

But if it was not for your channel I wouldn't have known about it.

Even if you can make a difference for one person who stumbles on it, it will be worth it.

So thank you for that. 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Inliytened1

[UnbornTao]

On 19/1/2026 at 5:12 PM, Joshe said:

When Leo dropped his 5meo video, I was like “holy shit I gotta try that”. I was super excited but I couldn’t easily acquire it, so it remained a desire for like 3 years. Within that time, much came to light. I realized that 5meo would be like any other psychedelic - you have a profound experience and then come back to reality. I saw the clinging, the obsession, the delusion, and the separation. It started to seem unwise. 

It provides a hopeful path in one's mind, and I think that's what underlies much of the clinginess. It's discouraging to drop something that essentially turns out to be a fantasy - in the context of consciousness work. It might have value for other purposes, such as healing or opening one's mind. But as you say, you always come down, for a reason.

It's also easy to be swayed by dramatic shifts in state and mistake them for enlightenment, especially when there's no real prior contrast to help you discern what's what. Adi Da spoke about this trap somewhere. 

Edited 1 hour ago by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

@Human Mint Didn't you listen to Pene_Descomunal77's video a while ago? Or read the Teal Swan thread? 

[Inliytened1]

46 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

Why not talk to Alex O’Connor. He has a much bigger channel.

Andrew Huberman.

[Ode]

@Inliytened1 Andrew Huberman is highly overrated imo. 

[Human Mint]

@UnbornTaoIf you use psychedelics you're closer to truth but you say otherwise. 

Obviously there are traps, but you seem to think is not effective at all which it is precisely the trap.

You could be highly distracted and not using your mind properly while doing psychedelics in which case you're guaranteed to believe in fantasies. 

But it is mostly a self-correcting artifact and a mind recalibration tool. You fools can't see that.

[UnbornTao]

@Human Mint Fantasy is a much broader term here, by the way. I recommend you go through some of the past threads. Essentially, no perception is 'closer' to the truth than any other. It is a fallacy.

Edited 23 minutes ago by UnbornTao

[TheBG]

@Leo Gura Dan Koe has hosted a few podcasts on his channel. He is large within his space on YouTube and likes you. I am willing to bet he would want you on, understand what you are saying, and ask powerful questions. 

It would probably be life purpose-oriented, but it might dive into other areas.

I am unsure how much appearing over there makes sense, but as I mentioned in DMs at one point, he obviously advocates for you, as you know.