Why nobody is talking about Iran?

[Karmadhi]

On 1/28/2026 at 6:43 PM, Revolutionary Think said:

I just find it amazing that everyone lost their minds for Gaza with the death toll of this so called 40,000 happening in months if not a couple years and the same death toll in Iran happens in not more than 2 weeks and no ones batting an eye. Not even... @Leo Gura 

PURE HYPOCRISY because it doesn't fit into a narrow potitical idealogy that US bad and allies bad everyone else good. PATHETIC! 

I will list to you the reasons why that is the case according to my investigations

Disclaimer: I am not agreeing with these points per say but simply stating them, reporting them

1. Huge amount of uncertainty about the true death toll. You have claims from 5000 to 60.000 and that varience creates a lot of confusion. In Gaza you had pretty specific numbers that were not contensted much and gave a lot of clarify. Even IDF recently agreed that the Hamas death toll is mostly accurate: https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-believes-70000-gazans-killed-in-war-as-claimed-by-hamas/

2. Footage. This is huge. At first there was no footage so people did not believe things. Now there is indeed footage which is causing a change in the perception. A lot of people have the "I will believe it when I see it" type of attitude. Thing is in Gaza a lot of the footage involved kids and people are way more sensitive when a 5 year old gets killed compared to a 35 year old man.

3. Hypocrisy. Now just as you call the pro Palis hypocrites for not supporting Iran, the pro Palis call the Zios hypocrites for suddently caring about civilians killed when their side killed tens of thousands of civilians including kids

4. Lack of trust about intentions. There is the idea within liberal camps that Israel and USA caused this indirectly and therefore they are responsible instead of the IRGC. Personally I think IRGC is horrible for what they did but a lot of people seem to put the first blame on those other countries. Also, they simply do not trust Western media about Iran (first point I mentioned)

5. Ideological alingement. Basically what you already wrote

 

[Cred]

@GroovyGuru Agreed 100%
 

It's the classic

Liberal: Terrorism bad! Authoritarianism bad! Dictator bad!

vs

Leftist: I spare you with boring details and history. Anyways the story begins when the first fish started to walk on land

[Cred]

@Karmadhi Thanks for the analysis!

[Mohammad]

@BlueOak Thank you dear friend, there are lots of young and enlightened people in Iran, we just want to be able to rebuild our country. We dont want much, just the ability to live and progress, personally and collectively.

 

@GroovyGuru  you are more than welcome to come here, go to tehran, and live with the"final boss!" And drink the blood of iranians! Yes, US has its own agendas, same as Israel, but in a weird way, their goal is same as more than 70%of population over here. Just come over here. Let the boss be your friend. 

[Cred]

17 minutes ago, Mohammad said:

but in a weird way, their goal is same as more than 70%of population over here.

Wouldn't you agree that this is mainly the case because they want the sanctions lifted?

You do realize that the sanctions come from the west and not from your government?

You need to understand that the west is not your ally. They don't want YOU to profit from the oil.

When america installs a puppet regime, sure your situation will improve, since the sanctions are lifted that were unecessary in the first place.

But you will be americas bitch just like everybody. You will be heavily propagandized and be expected to be thankful because the american saviours brought you wonderful human rights because that doesn't hurt the profits of anyone and your material situation will still be shit because the opposite would mean that anyone had to actually care about you.

Sorry for being so dark. Maybe america and israel will go to hell, then you'll be fine. Woah that was even more cynical sorry

[Mohammad]

25 minutes ago, Cred said:

Wouldn't you agree that this is mainly the case because they want the sanctions lifted?

You do realize that the sanctions come from the west and not from your government?

You need to understand that the west is not your ally. They don't want YOU to profit from the oil.

When america installs a puppet regime, sure your situation will improve, since the sanctions are lifted that were unecessary in the first place.

But you will be americas bitch just like everybody. You will be heavily propagandized and be expected to be thankful because the american saviours brought you wonderful human rights because that doesn't hurt the profits of anyone and your material situation will still be shit because the opposite would mean that anyone had to actually care about you.

Sorry for being so dark. Maybe america and israel will go to hell, then you'll be fine. Woah that was even more cynical sorry

You are mostly right. 

But all of you dear friends outside of Iran focus on issues that is way different from reality.

Our problem is not only sanctions.

First of all, why sanctions? Because europeans and americans are psychopaths? No, because the foundational ideology of this regime is to spread their islam all around the world, untill the day they become the rulers of the world! And this is not just a slogan. They REALLY want this! This is hard for everyone who dont understand these demons to believe. We have grown up under their rule. Their ideology is the air they breathe.

But lets say sanctions are the west fault.

Since our childhood, they have been opressing us. In what way? What you should listen to, what you should see, how you should dress, etc.

And the most important factor for millions of us: unimaginable level of corruption. Every demon who is connected to the government use their power to advance in society while holding normal iranians back, exactly opposite to what shah did. Shah did not allow political freedom, but he worked for Iran! These thieves have stolen every bussiness, every university, every industry. Just please go and invistigate. We have been seeing for decades how they have stolen the wealth of our nation, made themselves all powerfull, and then used that money to finance their proxies abroad.

Do you think they use the oil money for us?!! 

They have destroyed Iran's beautiful nature in order to make themselves richer. They have destroyed water reserves. They dont give a shit about animals, or trees, or lakes.

They have stolen and killed, for decades, and none of us forget that.

I can go on and on. Its not hust about geopolitics my friend. I understand, you guys live abroad, and mostly care about geopolitics, but these monsters have destroyed a nation. Even if americans lift sanctions on them, as obama did, we won't forget who they are, and one day will throw them out. If anyone can help us with that task, we welcome it!

Edited January 30 by Mohammad
Misspeling

[zazen]

@Mohammad  Stay safe man.

There's no doubt the IRGC are corrupt af. The thing is that sanctioning doesn't help with that at all and only further entrenches the corruption and security state under seige conditions. Corruption is usually outgrown with surplus, which comes from normalisation and integrated trade with the world increasing exports for dollars or strong currency.

In constant survival mode from being imperially contained by the West - they are constantly needing to put out fires with little to no breathing room, so they grab whatever they can. Sanctions also means informal networks and channels are required to operate which means way more corruption occurs and gets further entrenched.

Sanctions and containment militarises the economy and the IRGC fills the role the state could no longer perform normally. Now they are a parallel state fusing military with economic power which becomes even harder to dislodge. Any attempt at couping this establishment basically means civil war the likes of Syria. This is why many people hesitate to or don't want to be associated with ''Western intervention'' despite supporting or being for the Iranian people. We know what it caused in the past. Even the last revolution wasn't entirely Islamic - it was a mass revolt, after which the Islamic faction was organised to seize and consolidate? But in this case who will take the reigns? It most definitely won't be the diaspora backed monarchist lol.

The only bet is slow reform and sanction relief that will slowly boost GDP and expose the IRGC / gov to global standard and norms which they will then wish to meet in order to be ''investable'' as a country by foreign investment. Constant foreign meddling or intervention gives them the narrative of always having something to ''resist''. Being under sanctions gives them a reason to fight those that ''suffocate us''. And the material reality of that encirclement and sanctions leaves them little to no breathing room to manage the country well. Even wealthy Western nations who are never sanctioned (can't even be) have economic ups and downs and yellow vest protests - imagine being sanctioned. It's absolutely no wonder.

Anyone who underestimates the power of sanctions is ill informed and doesn't understand that it is a financial WMD that only the West has monopoly on - that is being routed around via BRICS who are in the process but not near completion.

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:54 PM by zazen

[Breakingthewall]

On 28/1/2026 at 6:43 PM, Revolutionary Think said:

I just find it amazing that everyone lost their minds for Gaza with the death toll of this so called 40,000 happening in months if not a couple years and the same death toll in Iran happens in not more than 2 weeks and no ones batting an eye. Not even... @Leo Gura 

PURE HYPOCRISY because it doesn't fit into a narrow potitical idealogy that US bad and allies bad everyone else good. PATHETIC! 

The big problem is that the US makes tyrants look good because they appear to be the resistance against a vampiric predator, which isn't entirely untrue. The left will support the ayatollahs, Kim Jong-il, or whoever else stands up to the resource-stealing Goliath.

We might think: the smart thing to do is to collaborate with the US; it's the hegemonic power, and opposing it is stupid and you gain nothing. But in many cases (too many), if you let it have its way, it will rape you like an 8-year-old girl on Epstein's island

[Basman]

Palestine has had years and literal generations to accrue sentiment. "Free Palestine" has been a talking point for liberals long before October 7th. When Israel then has a disproportionate response to October 7th then it is easy for that turn into huge protests for a demographic that isn't unfamiliar with protesting. 

[Basman]

On 1/30/2026 at 2:19 PM, Stick said:

I dont think the regime wants to leave power. So it might develop into an armed revolution. This is what power transition in non democratic countries look like. Of course it can be non violent as well, but 9/10 the guy incharge doesnt give a fuck and just kills to maintain power

The more immediate concern is the military turning. The military couping the government is fairly typical of tribalistic third world nations. That's part of why they use foreign mercenaries (talk about "legitimacy").

They have already moved all their gold to Russia, so it's clear that the regime doesn't feel secure currently.

[Raze]

6 minutes ago, Basman said:

Palestine has had years and literal generations to accrue sentiment. "Free Palestine" has been a talking point for liberals long before October 7th. When Israel then has a disproportionate response to October 7th then it is easy for that turn into huge protests for a demographic that isn't unfamiliar with protesting. 

You must have missed the widespread support the Iranian protests for in 2022.

The lack of support today is because of horrible choices by the Iranian diaspora to call for regime change war (unpopular with anti-Iran republicans), support israel (unpopular with leftists who supported them before), and anti-religion (unpopular with Sunni Muslims who also hated Irans government) losing most of their allies.

[Revolutionary Think]

 

[Mohammad]

@zazen you are correct friend. Also notice that they(IRGC and current rulong class) have no problems with sanctions. They actually welcome it! Because it helped them to become millionaires by stealing the wealth of a nation, and these monsters are mostly ignorant, uneducated backward savages who have used violence to raise to power and then steal the governing body of a big nation.

 

Thay have killed alot of us. Thousands and thousands.We dont care if it takes 100 years, or if we get any support, real support, from outside world or not.

We dont care if its Pahlavi or anyone else who can help us. Trump, Putin, Bernie Sanders! We want these fuckers to go away. They have tortured the soul of a nation for more than 40 years, I understand how you guys dont see the real face of islamic republic. When they fall, and after years pass, you will slowly realize what they actually were, and their history will definitley help humanity to move forward. We need to learn from history, like we've been doing for thousands of years.

Nothing will be normal for us from now on. These fuckers must be destroyed, by any means necessary, if it leads to civil war then be it. 

There's a saying in farsi: marg yek bar, shivan yek bar!

Which basicly means: die once and scream once! We are tired of fighting these monsters just for having a decent life and country. They are basically not Iranians! They do not follow iranian culture. They only speak farsi. They are a cult, a shia cult. IRGC, basij, the supreme fucking leader, all of them. They dont give a shit about Iran and Persian culture. They must go. By any means necessary.

[Revolutionary Think]

@Mohammad I agree with most of what you say but, what's the hope of you guys getting rid of these fuck faces if you're all unarmed?

[Mohammad]

@Revolutionary Think

8 hours ago, Revolutionary Think said:

@Mohammad I agree with most of what you say but, what's the hope of you guys getting rid of these fuck faces if you're all unarmed?

The body of armed forces are patriots. The problem is the leadership and some groups of extremists who will support them to their death. If IRGC command center and top clerics are removed, the body of armed forces, especially the military(different from IRGC) will put their guns down and join the people. A big majority of them are fed up too, for years. 

If new leadership is installed(someone like Reza Pahlavi which has huge number of supporters inside and outside of Iran), there are lots of military generals and personel that will welcome it and install security inside the country.

Right now the biigest problem is top of the pyramid. They must be removed. There is a chance that some chaos could follow after that, but since everyone has lost hope in the current regime, majority of population are willing to take their chances. Thats why millions came to the streets. And if people are not afraid of getting shot, a greater number of people will march. Life is risk, and right now majority of Iranians are willing to take the risks.

[Revolutionary Think]

@Mohammad Best of luck I could only imagine the kind of suffering and uncertainty going on over there. I understand all the anger and the frustration. I wanted to ask if any of you feel betrayed by President Trump opening up his big mouth (in this case typing with his small hands either on a computer or even cell phone) telling everyone help is on the way and then later to keep protesting and take over the institutions. Then his big fat ass didn't act on his message. Then he dragged it out sent in the strike group and now he's doing these stupid talks with the regime in Oman. What do you think of all the people saying bombing you isn't saving you. I think it's incredibly stupid. Surgical strikes and carpet bombing AREN'T THE SAME THING. If I knew there was someone in my neighborhood with weapns 5 or 6 miles away from me planning to use those weapons to kill me and if any plane came by and bombed his house well his house ISN'T MY HOUSE a big different between levelling the entire neighborhood or nuking the f-ing place lol. 

These scum are willing to kill the entire country just so they can stay in power. How is it on the streets now. I know the regime invited their foreign proxies to shoot and kill people. Any chance people can defend themselves with more than motolov cocktails? Does the Artesh not have weapons they can use or does the IRGC just have the way bigger guns? I'm wondering even if the protest stops if the country shuts down and no one goes to work, people are on general strike and no one is paying taxes maybe the regime can just collapse like that instead of tons of blood shed on the street just maybe a general will for people to not participate in the system at all leaving the government not functioning. Just an idea, Anyway best of luck stay safe out there. 

[Mohammad]

@Revolutionary Think

10 hours ago, Revolutionary Think said:

@Mohammad Best of luck I could only imagine the kind of suffering and uncertainty going on over there. I understand all the anger and the frustration. I wanted to ask if any of you feel betrayed by President Trump opening up his big mouth (in this case typing with his small hands either on a computer or even cell phone) telling everyone help is on the way and then later to keep protesting and take over the institutions. Then his big fat ass didn't act on his message. Then he dragged it out sent in the strike group and now he's doing these stupid talks with the regime in Oman. What do you think of all the people saying bombing you isn't saving you. I think it's incredibly stupid. Surgical strikes and carpet bombing AREN'T THE SAME THING. If I knew there was someone in my neighborhood with weapns 5 or 6 miles away from me planning to use those weapons to kill me and if any plane came by and bombed his house well his house ISN'T MY HOUSE a big different between levelling the entire neighborhood or nuking the f-ing place lol. 

These scum are willing to kill the entire country just so they can stay in power. How is it on the streets now. I know the regime invited their foreign proxies to shoot and kill people. Any chance people can defend themselves with more than motolov cocktails? Does the Artesh not have weapons they can use or does the IRGC just have the way bigger guns? I'm wondering even if the protest stops if the country shuts down and no one goes to work, people are on general strike and no one is paying taxes maybe the regime can just collapse like that instead of tons of blood shed on the street just maybe a general will for people to not participate in the system at all leaving the government not functioning. Just an idea, Anyway best of luck stay safe out there. 

 

Totally agree with you man.

Everyone is waiting for the strike! And when I say everyone, you won't believe that its almost literally everyone! People with many different political views have come to a common belief and demand: just destroy these monsters, by any means necessary!

And yes, many people do feel betrayed by Donald's actions. You hear it in social media and among people. But at the same time, some people including me, still believe US will strike them, its just that the matter is complicated( from various angles, geographically, geopolitically, military, complexity of governance in the interim period and the agendas of other countries) and thats why it is taking too long. Untill US strike groups have their positions in the persian gulf and their bases in the region, the chance of attack on islamic republic is high. But I know that trump is not reliable, I just hope he sees some personal benefits in helping Iranians! Also Rubio plays a big role too.

Unfortunately I dont believe striking works in Iran anymore. They easily replace whomever they want, and they have divided every sector so much that its basically impossible for people to unionize. There are many aspects to this, but the main point is that people cannot hurt the regime from the inside, especially economically, and any action against them will backfire on people themselves. 

Army can raise against IRGC and it has happened few times, in small scales, over past 20 years. But since their commanders are mostly IRGC puppets, unless the commanders are removed, there is not a big chance of inner conflict. And yes, almost all of the good and expensive weapons are at IRGCs position!

Thats why outside help is of paramount importance now. And not just sanctions, its hard to hurt these fuckers economically, it will only hurt people( and thus increase discontent with the regime even more). Best way is to hurt them by force, by military action, and then there is a a big chance of inner conflict and hopefully a big change at the top of the power pyramid.

The support that everyone of us get from people outside of Iran is very heartwarming. Much appreciated.

[Revolutionary Think]

9 hours ago, Mohammad said:

Totally agree with you man.

Everyone is waiting for the strike! And when I say everyone, you won't believe that its almost literally everyone! People with many different political views have come to a common belief and demand: just destroy these monsters, by any means necessary!

And yes, many people do feel betrayed by Donald's actions. You hear it in social media and among people. But at the same time, some people including me, still believe US will strike them, its just that the matter is complicated( from various angles, geographically, geopolitically, military, complexity of governance in the interim period and the agendas of other countries) and thats why it is taking too long. Untill US strike groups have their positions in the persian gulf and their bases in the region, the chance of attack on islamic republic is high. But I know that trump is not reliable, I just hope he sees some personal benefits in helping Iranians! Also Rubio plays a big role too.

Unfortunately I dont believe striking works in Iran anymore. They easily replace whomever they want, and they have divided every sector so much that its basically impossible for people to unionize. There are many aspects to this, but the main point is that people cannot hurt the regime from the inside, especially economically, and any action against them will backfire on people themselves. 

Army can raise against IRGC and it has happened few times, in small scales, over past 20 years. But since their commanders are mostly IRGC puppets, unless the commanders are removed, there is not a big chance of inner conflict. And yes, almost all of the good and expensive weapons are at IRGCs position!

Thats why outside help is of paramount importance now. And not just sanctions, its hard to hurt these fuckers economically, it will only hurt people( and thus increase discontent with the regime even more). Best way is to hurt them by force, by military action, and then there is a a big chance of inner conflict and hopefully a big change at the top of the power pyramid.

The support that everyone of us get from people outside of Iran is very heartwarming. Much appreciated.

For sure my parents are from Iran and I speak fluent Parsi. They came here to dumb Los Angeles, CA where there's nothing but, traffic and homeless people lol. I always wondered about going back but, there's no way in hell I would because I see almost every Iranian American that goes back is arrested for spying and then used as a bargaining chip for this piece of shit regime. So I can only really see Iran on video and not in person it's a real shame. 

About Trump ya there are practical and logistical concerns and life is not a video game where you can just push a button and it all changes. I'm guessing that if he were to do a limited strike with no plan then the regime would just go crazy launch a ton of missiles definitely at Israel and maybe at some of the Arab countries and if the right defenses weren't in place it would be a disaster and at the same time if not enough offensive capability wasn't in place either it wouldn't be enough for a strike to finish the job which would also be a disaster. If that was the case that fat idiot shouldn't have sent that message. There should've just been better cordination somehow with him and the protestors. I know people are thinking it gave the people of Iran hope and made then excited to go out into the streets but, these are human lives not chess pieces on a board I don't think that it's right. 

The thing about Trump is that he changes his mind on a whim like a fool and doesn't think about the day after and what kind of effect it has. During the 12 day war he said regime change is a good idea then immediately changed his mind and said it was too messy. One thing he did I think that was freaking terrible was when after the US got rid of the Fordo and Isfahan site (and one other hardened nuke site I can't remember maybe Natanz) was that he told Israel to STOP. Israel was also going to take out Khamenei and he didn't let it happen either. It's like he has a split personality. Unreliable douche! 

I really think that during 2022 the Iranian people really had a chance then we saw that go away. It's just so freaking annoying how this has all been working out. Like in 2025 during the 12 day war the Iranians could've came out on the streets too and then the regime would've really had it's hands full but, I think it's easier said than done and I'd understand why people wouldn't want to come out at a time of war. I think that the best thing was the US NOT getting involved in the 12 day war to hit those hardened structures especially Fordow. If that didn't happen Israel would've had the excuse to keep bombing the regime when it didn't have any air defenses until the regime was weak enough for Israel to do some kind of special operation to take out those places. Or even better if Israel didn't have the capability to take out Fordow and Natanz they could've just bombed the regime to non-existence so instaed of getting rid of the place there was just no regime to use it anymore lol. That would've been the optimal outcome in my perspective. Anyway I just hope these talks go nowhere and all that American firepower in the Sea doesn't go to waste and final removes the regime. I can understand the people too and their reluctance to go to the streets with these evil psychopathic barbarians and their Arab proxy friends patrolling it. I just hope the US, Israel (or any other country but, most of the Europeans seem to be cowards) can hit the repression centers and target the people doing the repression and then the people of Iran can finally get rid of these sh*t sucking Mother F**king assholes. I know I used harsh words but, that's the kind of words these mass murderers deserve. 

[Breakingthewall]

The only way for Iran to free itself from the medieval obscurantism of Islamic dictatorship is through a military coup.

I suppose the regime has placed loyalists in positions of power, but there's always ambition. Perhaps at some point a leader will emerge and the regime will fall, only to be replaced by another dictator.

What seems impossible is for the people to triumph through protests and establish a democracy.

[Elliott]

Ya, just keep up pressure internally and ask for pressure externally. It will happen.