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Why nobody is talking about Iran?

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On 1/28/2026 at 6:43 PM, Revolutionary Think said:

I just find it amazing that everyone lost their minds for Gaza with the death toll of this so called 40,000 happening in months if not a couple years and the same death toll in Iran happens in not more than 2 weeks and no ones batting an eye. Not even... @Leo Gura 

PURE HYPOCRISY because it doesn't fit into a narrow potitical idealogy that US bad and allies bad everyone else good. PATHETIC! 

I will list to you the reasons why that is the case according to my investigations

Disclaimer: I am not agreeing with these points per say but simply stating them, reporting them

1. Huge amount of uncertainty about the true death toll. You have claims from 5000 to 60.000 and that varience creates a lot of confusion. In Gaza you had pretty specific numbers that were not contensted much and gave a lot of clarify. Even IDF recently agreed that the Hamas death toll is mostly accurate: https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-believes-70000-gazans-killed-in-war-as-claimed-by-hamas/

2. Footage. This is huge. At first there was no footage so people did not believe things. Now there is indeed footage which is causing a change in the perception. A lot of people have the "I will believe it when I see it" type of attitude. Thing is in Gaza a lot of the footage involved kids and people are way more sensitive when a 5 year old gets killed compared to a 35 year old man.

3. Hypocrisy. Now just as you call the pro Palis hypocrites for not supporting Iran, the pro Palis call the Zios hypocrites for suddently caring about civilians killed when their side killed tens of thousands of civilians including kids

4. Lack of trust about intentions. There is the idea within liberal camps that Israel and USA caused this indirectly and therefore they are responsible instead of the IRGC. Personally I think IRGC is horrible for what they did but a lot of people seem to put the first blame on those other countries. Also, they simply do not trust Western media about Iran (first point I mentioned)

5. Ideological alingement. Basically what you already wrote

 

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@GroovyGuru Agreed 100%
 

It's the classic

Liberal: Terrorism bad! Authoritarianism bad! Dictator bad!

vs

Leftist: I spare you with boring details and history. Anyways the story begins when the first fish started to walk on land

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@BlueOak Thank you dear friend, there are lots of young and enlightened people in Iran, we just want to be able to rebuild our country. We dont want much, just the ability to live and progress, personally and collectively.

 

@GroovyGuru  you are more than welcome to come here, go to tehran, and live with the"final boss!" And drink the blood of iranians! Yes, US has its own agendas, same as Israel, but in a weird way, their goal is same as more than 70%of population over here. Just come over here. Let the boss be your friend. 

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17 minutes ago, Mohammad said:

but in a weird way, their goal is same as more than 70%of population over here.

Wouldn't you agree that this is mainly the case because they want the sanctions lifted?

You do realize that the sanctions come from the west and not from your government?

You need to understand that the west is not your ally. They don't want YOU to profit from the oil.

When america installs a puppet regime, sure your situation will improve, since the sanctions are lifted that were unecessary in the first place.

But you will be americas bitch just like everybody. You will be heavily propagandized and be expected to be thankful because the american saviours brought you wonderful human rights because that doesn't hurt the profits of anyone and your material situation will still be shit because the opposite would mean that anyone had to actually care about you.

Sorry for being so dark. Maybe america and israel will go to hell, then you'll be fine. Woah that was even more cynical sorry

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25 minutes ago, Cred said:

Wouldn't you agree that this is mainly the case because they want the sanctions lifted?

You do realize that the sanctions come from the west and not from your government?

You need to understand that the west is not your ally. They don't want YOU to profit from the oil.

When america installs a puppet regime, sure your situation will improve, since the sanctions are lifted that were unecessary in the first place.

But you will be americas bitch just like everybody. You will be heavily propagandized and be expected to be thankful because the american saviours brought you wonderful human rights because that doesn't hurt the profits of anyone and your material situation will still be shit because the opposite would mean that anyone had to actually care about you.

Sorry for being so dark. Maybe america and israel will go to hell, then you'll be fine. Woah that was even more cynical sorry

You are mostly right. 

But all of you dear friends outside of Iran focus on issues that is way different from reality.

Our problem is not only sanctions.

First of all, why sanctions? Because europeans and americans are psychopaths? No, because the foundational ideology of this regime is to spread their islam all around the world, untill the day they become the rulers of the world! And this is not just a slogan. They REALLY want this! This is hard for everyone who dont understand these demons to believe. We have grown up under their rule. Their ideology is the air they breathe.

But lets say sanctions are the west fault.

Since our childhood, they have been opressing us. In what way? What you should listen to, what you should see, how you should dress, etc.

And the most important factor for millions of us: unimaginable level of corruption. Every demon who is connected to the government use their power to advance in society while holding normal iranians back, exactly opposite to what shah did. Shah did not allow political freedom, but he worked for Iran! These thieves have stolen every bussiness, every university, every industry. Just please go and invistigate. We have been seeing for decades how they have stolen the wealth of our nation, made themselves all powerfull, and then used that money to finance their proxies abroad.

Do you think they use the oil money for us?!! 

They have destroyed Iran's beautiful nature in order to make themselves richer. They have destroyed water reserves. They dont give a shit about animals, or trees, or lakes.

They have stolen and killed, for decades, and none of us forget that.

I can go on and on. Its not hust about geopolitics my friend. I understand, you guys live abroad, and mostly care about geopolitics, but these monsters have destroyed a nation. Even if americans lift sanctions on them, as obama did, we won't forget who they are, and one day will throw them out. If anyone can help us with that task, we welcome it!

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@Mohammad  Stay safe man.

There's no doubt the IRGC are corrupt af. The thing is that sanctioning doesn't help with that at all and only further entrenches the corruption and security state under seige conditions. Corruption is usually outgrown with surplus, which comes from normalisation and integrated trade with the world increasing exports for dollars or strong currency.

In constant survival mode from being imperially contained by the West - they are constantly needing to put out fires with little to no breathing room, so they grab whatever they can. Sanctions also means informal networks and channels are required to operate which means way more corruption occurs and gets further entrenched.

Sanctions and containment militarises the economy and the IRGC fills the role the state could no longer perform normally. Now they are a parallel state fusing military with economic power which becomes even harder to dislodge. Any attempt at couping this establishment basically means civil war the likes of Syria. This is why many people hesitate to or don't want to be associated with ''Western intervention'' despite supporting or being for the Iranian people. We know what it caused in the past. Even the last revolution wasn't entirely Islamic - it was a mass revolt, after which the Islamic faction was organised to seize and consolidate? But in this case who will take the reigns? It most definitely won't be the diaspora backed monarchist lol.

The only bet is slow reform and sanction relief that will slowly boost GDP and expose the IRGC / gov to global standard and norms which they will then wish to meet in order to be ''investable'' as a country by foreign investment. Constant foreign meddling or intervention gives them the narrative of always having something to ''resist''. Being under sanctions gives them a reason to fight those that ''suffocate us''. And the material reality of that encirclement and sanctions leaves them little to no breathing room to manage the country well. Even wealthy Western nations who are never sanctioned (can't even be) have economic ups and downs and yellow vest protests - imagine being sanctioned. It's absolutely no wonder.

Anyone who underestimates the power of sanctions is ill informed and doesn't understand that it is a financial WMD that only the West has monopoly on - that is being routed around via BRICS who are in the process but not near completion.

 

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On 28/1/2026 at 6:43 PM, Revolutionary Think said:

I just find it amazing that everyone lost their minds for Gaza with the death toll of this so called 40,000 happening in months if not a couple years and the same death toll in Iran happens in not more than 2 weeks and no ones batting an eye. Not even... @Leo Gura 

PURE HYPOCRISY because it doesn't fit into a narrow potitical idealogy that US bad and allies bad everyone else good. PATHETIC! 

The big problem is that the US makes tyrants look good because they appear to be the resistance against a vampiric predator, which isn't entirely untrue. The left will support the ayatollahs, Kim Jong-il, or whoever else stands up to the resource-stealing Goliath.

We might think: the smart thing to do is to collaborate with the US; it's the hegemonic power, and opposing it is stupid and you gain nothing. But in many cases (too many), if you let it have its way, it will rape you like an 8-year-old girl on Epstein's island

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Palestine has had years and literal generations to accrue sentiment. "Free Palestine" has been a talking point for liberals long before October 7th. When Israel then has a disproportionate response to October 7th then it is easy for that turn into huge protests for a demographic that isn't unfamiliar with protesting. 

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On 1/30/2026 at 2:19 PM, Stick said:

I dont think the regime wants to leave power. So it might develop into an armed revolution. This is what power transition in non democratic countries look like. Of course it can be non violent as well, but 9/10 the guy incharge doesnt give a fuck and just kills to maintain power

The more immediate concern is the military turning. The military couping the government is fairly typical of tribalistic third world nations. That's part of why they use foreign mercenaries (talk about "legitimacy").

They have already moved all their gold to Russia, so it's clear that the regime doesn't feel secure currently.

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6 minutes ago, Basman said:

Palestine has had years and literal generations to accrue sentiment. "Free Palestine" has been a talking point for liberals long before October 7th. When Israel then has a disproportionate response to October 7th then it is easy for that turn into huge protests for a demographic that isn't unfamiliar with protesting. 

You must have missed the widespread support the Iranian protests for in 2022.

The lack of support today is because of horrible choices by the Iranian diaspora to call for regime change war (unpopular with anti-Iran republicans), support israel (unpopular with leftists who supported them before), and anti-religion (unpopular with Sunni Muslims who also hated Irans government) losing most of their allies.

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