Gigsi

Question for those who have awakened to God-consciousness

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1 hour ago, Gigsi said:

So you’re saying this experience just exists, and that’s it.  I go through it simply because it happens to exist?

It just is.


I will be waiting here, For your silence to break, For your soul to shake,              For your love to wake! Rumi

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1 hour ago, Gigsi said:

Also, this experience I’m having clearly started at some point  what I call my birth

You can’t pin point at all where this experience started. Maybe that should be a clue to you. It certainly was not at that point you call your birth that is 100% not the case. Why would you just come out of your mother and suddenly start experiencing at that instant? Would you not have been experiencing a month previously whilst in the womb as a near full grown newborn? Or even earlier. At what point would there be a beginning to what you call experience? At what point of brain development? Which senses are arising first? Each sense is an experience in itself. Or did your experience begin later, after birth, when an ego developed. Is there even an experience to be had for you before the development of an ego? Maybe your experience didn’t even begin until you were 3 months old, or 6/7 months old. You don’t know. When is your first memory from? Is that maybe when your experience began? If you died at 3 months old, would you even know you had lived? All questions for you to ponder. Maybe, just maybe, the reason you can’t pin point a beginning of your experience, which by the way remember you did claim it began at your birth, but now hopefully clearly see that can not be the case, but maybe, you can’t pin point a beginning, because there was no beginning, just something different. And maybe there is no end, just something  different. And anyway, the you spin a life, if you ever awaken, you may just realise that none of that experience ever happened at all, other than you sitting there in that very moment, the only moment that exists, spinning that shit. I’ll just leave that there

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1 hour ago, Gigsi said:

Is it possible that what awakening reveals is just one infinite mind? one “God” but that this isn’t all that exists? That you only ever awaken within this one, because you’re inside it, even if there could be others outside of it? And that no matter what happens, the awakening is always into this one mind, not beyond it?

Well, investigate for yourself and find out.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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49 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, investigate for yourself and find out.

Perhaps the "White Holes" you sometimes refer to need investigation?

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When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Awakening tells you that you are God, it does not tell you why you are dreaming a human dream. It is hard to know why God dreams whatever it dreams.

Just because it can.


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Awakening tells you that you are God, it does not tell you why you are dreaming a human dream. It is hard to know why God dreams whatever it dreams.

Why do you assume there is a why? Maybe ‘why’ is part of the dream


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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5 hours ago, Gigsi said:

I resonate with the absence-of-purpose part. But when you say ‘absolute perfection’ or ‘coherent patterns,’ that already sounds like meaning being reintroduced in abstract form. How is that different from purpose, just without a God figure? And how do you know this rather than it being a poetic description of what appears?

 

Also, this experience I’m having clearly started at some point  what I call my birth. That alone makes it feel like something before this allowed or triggered this experience to begin. I’m not saying intention or purpose, just that it had a start. How do you look at that without turning it into another story?

 

Absolute perfection or coherent patterns means that only what is perfectly coherent with itself can manifest, since the slightest incoherence would imply non-appearance. Imagine the universe at a quantum level: every field vibration must be synchronized with the totality of vibrations without deviation, since it exists because of this synchronicity.

Your birth and every breath you take occur because they are coherent with the totality of manifestation. Reality manifests because there are no absolute limits; nothing contains it. However, there are relative limits, since any manifestation exists in relation to everything else. Therefore, it is limited and created by the totality of existence, and at the same time, it creates and limits the totality of existence

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@Breakingthewall Ever have a day where everything seemed to be an incoherent interference pattern? xD


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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Just now, cetus said:

@Breakingthewall Ever have a day where everything seemed to be an incoherent interference pattern? xD

Of course, and the fact of having that feeling was synchronized with the entirety of existence to the infinite power.

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@Breakingthewall It keeps it spicy.

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When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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Awakening is being conscious you are conscious. It is an awakening from unconsciousness.

It makes sense, otherwise, what's the purpose or point in life at all unless you are aware of life.

That's why the universe awoken from unconsciousness, simply because it could, and it desired it. 

Imagine life never knowing it ever existed, what a complete waste of time and energy that would be.

 

All that matter just lying around unconscious forever, how dull and useless. So the good news is that nothing was ever dull, boring or wasted, and so here we are, now, and knowing it.


I AM The Last Idiot 

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Even if you were God, nothing would fundamentally change. Life would still unfold according to its own laws, accounting for the whole, not personal desire.

And perhaps that is for the best, because an individual mind is rarely wise enough to know what truly serves its own form.

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54 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

what's the purpose or point in life at all unless you are aware of life

Without limits, at some point a dual system will emerge that gives rise to consciousness. "Some point" is always, because there is no beginning or end, as those would be absolute limits.

Reality has no purpose, it is just inevitable. Any absolute purpose would be an absolute limit, implying that without it there would be no reality. And that purpose would be part of reality, not its cause. Any cause would be part of the reality, same than any possible god. Then there is not god, cause or pourpose, just reality 

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@Gigsi it's mostly delusion, self-deception and stage green group think.

Having said that, there are variety of encapsulating levels to this universe (holarchy) and in some layer of this dream it "may" be possible that some of those mechanics do exist.

The way you notice this is by increasing your state of consciousness and by deciphering higher and higher layers. Then in the desired layer you wanna work in, you expand "horizontally" and explore the workings of that "level". In the same way you wanna understand the mechanics of cells, you break down body, then organs, then cells and in that layer you work. On the macroscale, you wanna understand your continent, first you start by your village, then your region, then your country, then your neighbouring countries and finally your continent. You stop breaking through into higher layers to explore horizontally the working of the layer you want, e.g. of continent.

That's how you would go about systemically. In your path through psychedelics or yoga, you explore dimension of reality and if something feels like it would have information instead of going into higher consciousness, you stop there and explore.

There's a huge potential trap. The straight path is to always increase consciousness and Infinity to reach God, that's what will lead you to the ultimate treasure. By stopping to explore these superfluous mechanics you may get distracted and satisfied with peanuts.

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God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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