Thoughts on Bonnie Blue and Sex positivity/Negativity?

[LordFall]

I find bonnie blue and other women similar to her like Lily Phillips and Kazumi so interesting. Their behaviour is obviously an exaggeration of human sexuality but there's a lot to learn from it. Shows that it's a massive deal because they're pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable in society. If the whole of society was sex positive it wouldn't really be a worthy news story, just women enjoying their lives and intertwining it into their careers as public entertainers as they see fit. 

I think it's cool to see people be so comfortable in their sexuality and be so resistant to the fear of judgement. Obviously most people shouldn't probably live like that but there's something there for all of us to learn in terms of self-love and being resistant to conformity and group think. 

They remind me of sacred prostitutes of past civilizations. 

[aurum]

It's fine as far as helping people overcome sexual repression. But being too liberal about sex is not good.

Sex requires constraints. 

[LordFall]

Sure but these constraints are much closer to being repressed rather than being widely pushed too far in our modern society. 

[aurum]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

Sure but these constraints are much closer to being repressed rather than being widely pushed too far in our modern society. 

Very debatable.

We'd need to narrow the claim rather than discussing all of "modern society".

Modern society is a hodgepodge of sexual repression, liberalism and hedonism. Some people need liberation, some need constraints.

[Deziree]

I don't see comfort in it. Rather lousiness and a need to make quick money and notoriety. Glorification of prostitution. Eventually people will condemn the repetitive patterns of her behavior because that's not something we want kids to look up as role models. Hedonism at it's finest and moral debauchery. It's not even normal. A complete lack of emotional involvement. That's like a blow up doll sorry. This is not sex positivity at all, rather sexploitation.

 

Edited December 20 by Deziree

[Schizophonia]

It’s certainly not very pleasant to be Bonnie blue; she does this because it's all she knows.

 

Edited December 20 by Schizophonia

[something_else]

I don’t think she deserves hate for it. I also don’t think it should be actively encouraged.

[Eskilon]

Bonnie Blue is what happens when you have an unhealthy or non-existent Fi and Ni

Edited December 20 by Eskilon

[Twentyfirst]

The issue is women influence the girls. Especially if these feminists don't want men to influence young girls. How else will girls know how to behave? It's called role models. You want young girls to have prostitutes as role models? Why? What for? 

[Shermaningeorgia]

Sex positivity is a good thing. Bonnie blue is the extreme end of such. 

[LordFall]

On 12/20/2025 at 7:01 AM, Deziree said:

I don't see comfort in it. Rather lousiness and a need to make quick money and notoriety. Glorification of prostitution. Eventually people will condemn the repetitive patterns of her behavior because that's not something we want kids to look up as role models. Hedonism at it's finest and moral debauchery. It's not even normal. A complete lack of emotional involvement. That's like a blow up doll sorry. This is not sex positivity at all, rather sexploitation.

 

Why does the way somebody live their life shock you so much? The main reason that prostitution is shunned is it breaks down the structures of society, it's the most basic profession for a reason. Males exchanging labor for access to femininity. Her turning it into a performance arts and pushing the boundaries of what culture can take is applied artful sociology imo. 

[Shermaningeorgia]

Bonnie Blue is an extreme. she doesn't represent most young women in Britain or the wider Western world. For many sex positvity is just about enjoying sex and not having hangups on it. 

[WillCameron]

I'm with the idea of sexuality being sacred and liberated, but I don't consider what they're doing to be anything like that. They treat sex in consumptive terms from the having mode rather than as a process of intimate co-creation in the being/becoming mode. Ask yourself, does what they do bring people closer together or drive them further apart? The men who obsess over them are not learning to connect more deeply with themselves let alone women. That is not sacred sexuality, at least imo.

[Consept]

Funny story, I saw Bonnie Blue on a flight a few months ago, she was on the first row as well, so I had to walk right past her. She did not look comfortable in her skin, she had a hood up, was holding on to a teddy bear and aggressively colouring in her colouring book. She took pics with whoever asked but I did kinda feel sorry for her imagining what it must be like everyone looking at her and whispering behind her back but then less sympathy because she really courted this notoriety. 

A wider point what shes doing in her career isn't really a case of sexual liberation, its really just marketing, its a gimmick. She's smart in that she knows what to say and what to do to get attention but I dont think its representative of what she would do if money and fame weren't involved. She still could be sexually free and get that side of her out with swimgers parties or orgies or whatever, but sleeping with 1000 guys at a time is not something anyone really craves to do realistically. Its like someone who does eating challenges and puts them online, yeah they probably love food but if content wasn't involved they wouldnt eat that much. 

 

 

[Shermaningeorgia]

Some grossly overblow this OF phenomenon. There are only 3m OF performers in the world. That's a small portion of the global population. According to some, it's as if most younger women are doing OF which is false. 

[LordFall]

14 hours ago, WillCameron said:

I'm with the idea of sexuality being sacred and liberated, but I don't consider what they're doing to be anything like that. They treat sex in consumptive terms from the having mode rather than as a process of intimate co-creation in the being/becoming mode. Ask yourself, does what they do bring people closer together or drive them further apart? The men who obsess over them are not learning to connect more deeply with themselves let alone women. That is not sacred sexuality, at least imo.

I would disagree. She is single handedly challenging the taboos on sexuality worldwide. Her exploration of sexuality is beyond what most people on earth and even on this forum are willing to explore. She's perhaps the closest person on earth to something like infinite sexuality. 

11 hours ago, Consept said:

Funny story, I saw Bonnie Blue on a flight a few months ago, she was on the first row as well, so I had to walk right past her. She did not look comfortable in her skin, she had a hood up, was holding on to a teddy bear and aggressively colouring in her colouring book. She took pics with whoever asked but I did kinda feel sorry for her imagining what it must be like everyone looking at her and whispering behind her back but then less sympathy because she really courted this notoriety. 

A wider point what shes doing in her career isn't really a case of sexual liberation, its really just marketing, its a gimmick. She's smart in that she knows what to say and what to do to get attention but I dont think its representative of what she would do if money and fame weren't involved. She still could be sexually free and get that side of her out with swimgers parties or orgies or whatever, but sleeping with 1000 guys at a time is not something anyone really craves to do realistically. Its like someone who does eating challenges and puts them online, yeah they probably love food but if content wasn't involved they wouldnt eat that much. 

 

 

There's not much about your description that says not being comfortable in her skin. Many women like to be what a traditional man would call infantile and do stuff like coloring and like have stuffed animals out of emotional expressivity and coziness. If she's interacting with fans positively and not going everywhere with massive amounts of security and being hostile in public I would say she's specifically at peace with the universe and not demonstrating trauma. 

She was married with a job in government before doing this so I think her case is an interesting example of exploring a life purpose that's pushes the boundaries of traditional society and not caring about conformity.

I think she's definitely a good role model for people not in terms of following in her footsteps but finding a way to monetize a lifestyle that's more pleasurable to you than the traditional 9 to 5. 

5 hours ago, Shermaningeorgia said:

Some grossly overblow this OF phenomenon. There are only 3m OF performers in the world. That's a small portion of the global population. According to some, it's as if most younger women are doing OF which is false. 

True but it's very culturally relevant because it's a powerful form of entrepreneurship emerging that threatens the current forms of our social norms. 

[Consept]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

I think she's definitely a good role model for people not in terms of following in her footsteps but finding a way to monetize a lifestyle that's more pleasurable to you than the traditional 9 to 5. 

Id disagree just because I dont think extremes in any sense are usually positive. My central point is that this isn't something shes just doing and happens to film and monetise it, shes aware of the ragebait she will receive and is actively courting it. Her interviews are almost a character designed to annoy people that may have a moral issue with her. My point isn't a moral one necessarily im just countering your point that theyre somehow sexually liberated, I think this is a complete marketing ploy and if it didnt get any attention she wouldn't do it or even if it got the same attention as your average porn film she wouldn't do it. 

Shes not taking into consideration the effect it could have and probably is having on girls where now boys may expect this kind of behavior and girls feel like they have to perform this behaviour. These are real things that happen and shes happy to do them because of the money and fame not for sexual liberation 

[Cireeric]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

I would disagree. She is single handedly challenging the taboos on sexuality worldwide. Her exploration of sexuality is beyond what most people on earth and even on this forum are willing to explore. She's perhaps the closest person on earth to something like infinite sexuality. 

There's not much about your description that says not being comfortable in her skin. Many women like to be what a traditional man would call infantile and do stuff like coloring and like have stuffed animals out of emotional expressivity and coziness. If she's interacting with fans positively and not going everywhere with massive amounts of security and being hostile in public I would say she's specifically at peace with the universe and not demonstrating trauma. 

She was married with a job in government before doing this so I think her case is an interesting example of exploring a life purpose that's pushes the boundaries of traditional society and not caring about conformity.

I think she's definitely a good role model for people not in terms of following in her footsteps but finding a way to monetize a lifestyle that's more pleasurable to you than the traditional 9 to 5. 

True but it's very culturally relevant because it's a powerful form of entrepreneurship emerging that threatens the current forms of our social norms. 

Do you really think this is her authentic, unique life-purpose? She is just pushing the path of OnlyFans and milking the algorithm to its most overblown limit. She is just doing the next most sensationalist thing that will circulate in the algorithm. I also find it to be an interesting phenomenon philosophically but I dont see a good example of true life purpose here.

[Shermaningeorgia]

She's obviously pretty and saw an opportunity. Like Elle Brooke and others who've made big money from OF. 

Most people who get big online in some capacity do so via luck or just catching the algorithm. 

[Shermaningeorgia]

8 hours ago, LordFall said:

I would disagree. She is single handedly challenging the taboos on sexuality worldwide. Her exploration of sexuality is beyond what most people on earth and even on this forum are willing to explore. She's perhaps the closest person on earth to something like infinite sexuality. 

There's not much about your description that says not being comfortable in her skin. Many women like to be what a traditional man would call infantile and do stuff like coloring and like have stuffed animals out of emotional expressivity and coziness. If she's interacting with fans positively and not going everywhere with massive amounts of security and being hostile in public I would say she's specifically at peace with the universe and not demonstrating trauma. 

She was married with a job in government before doing this so I think her case is an interesting example of exploring a life purpose that's pushes the boundaries of traditional society and not caring about conformity.

I think she's definitely a good role model for people not in terms of following in her footsteps but finding a way to monetize a lifestyle that's more pleasurable to you than the traditional 9 to 5. 

True but it's very culturally relevant because it's a powerful form of entrepreneurship emerging that threatens the current forms of our social norms. 

I don't think what she's doing reflects actual social norms. She's an anomaly or exception. Most people of her age have generally more liberal views on sex compard to older generations, but even then few would do what she does. it's a grift mainly.