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People are Extremely Selfish

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13 minutes ago, bazera said:

@Leo Gura

Yeah I've been pondering that for some time, but I have one difficulty. I haven't experienced non-egoic, non-selfish pure consciousness yet, I just have my life experience so far as a reference, and I don't have much contrast between selfish and non-selfish perception. Everything is basically selfish from my POV, more or less. 

I even see my own agenda when I do "non-selfish" activity like helping others for example. 

I guess non-selfish would be something that I do that's not in relation to "me" and myself. But all I know is "me", so yeah, it's a tricky one.

I'll keep pondering.

Survival = selfishness. Check out Leo`s 3 part episode on what is survival.

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@SimpleGuy

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Survival = selfishness. Check out Leo`s 3 part episode on what is survival.

Yea I've seen it. The tricky part is distinguishing what is survival vs what is not in every day experience.

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@SQAAD people like those who seriously follow and actualize what Leo teaches are doing it because at some point they suffered a lot. That suffering motivated them to finally make a serious change. It still came from selfishness, in order to escape pain. 

We all are a bunch of selfish mfs. But i get your point, we see stuff they don't and it is frustrating because the world could be so much better.

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1 hour ago, bazera said:

@SimpleGuy

Yea I've seen it. The tricky part is distinguishing what is survival vs what is not in every day experience.

Yeah this is tricky. Although I`ve never experienced anything mystical (to me it seems so), so I can`t tell what is not survival. But it looks like that mother`s love for her baby is kinda not survival in some sense. But still I`m in doubt.

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24 minutes ago, SimpleGuy said:

But it looks like that mother`s love for her baby is kinda not survival in some sense.

Psychological / ego survival for sure.

The fact of the matter is a stage yellow person is less selfish than a stage red. But he is nowhere fully selfless.


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