Wealth & Consciousness Are Compatible?

[AION]

47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Quite a lot, actually. If you really valued truth you would not be creating cheap, gross fast food to maximize profit.

So why did god created it though? I think SD orange food culture is a necessary chain in the development. I’m not going to change the world so I’m not judging others and let them do their thing since only their own direct suffering will change them anyway. That is just how humans are build. 

[Leo Gura]

Even the way they advertize fast food isn't truthful. Fake images of fake food.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

47 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Not consciously though, you would have some kind of excuse. 

Okay, but like... it’s not the same as selling cigarettes, alcohol, and stuff like that, it’s food. It’s not going to harm you that much if you keep things under control. You can tell the difference, right? Also, it’s not that easy to make healthy food quickly on a mass industrial scale, and even if it were, maybe not enough people would buy it to sustain the business. The food might not be tasty enough, and not enough people are truly health-conscious to reap the benefits, etc. So fast food chains fill that niche, for now at least. Right?

59 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Wtf am I reading. 

Care to engage with any substance? Lmao, if it were disgusting, logically people wouldn’t be eating it. And yeah, those two items are the healthiest options at McDonald’s, and they’re fine to eat as long as they’re not the only things you eat LOL

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Even the way they advertize fast food isn't truthful. Fake images of fake food.

So using graphically enhanced pictures of food is lying? Then literaly most of marketing is lying. Since I'm guessing that this is your stance anyway lol, then I guess yeah, we can label it as lying

[Davino]

12 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

So using graphically enhanced pictures of food is lying? Then literaly most of marketing is lying. Since I'm guessing that this is your stance anyway lol, then I guess yeah, we can label it as lying

It's not only lying, it's deceiving. How are you gonna train your mind to be truthful if your job is to deceive. The caveat happens to be that to become filthy rich, deception is the easiest way. Having limited resources, becoming billionaire rich in a way that allows you to become insanely conscious and mature is indeed challenging. 

I'd say it's possible but I haven't seen anyone exhibiting the qualities to do both at excellence. The sacrifice and luck is too much.

Even in human history, such convergence is rare, in my research I've only found a few Hindu kings particularly inclined for spirituality & philosophy in a particularly favourable time-space.

Having said this, I'm sure you can be a millionaire and be very mature and conscious. Money like spirituality has many leagues and the fish at the surface are not like the sharks at the bottom of the ocean.

Edited 1 hour ago by Davino

[Jannes]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

You can be aware that this food is not the pinnacle of health and still run a business selling it. Also, if it were gross, people wouldn’t eat it. Just like you said about sugar, it’s all about the quantities you eat, not just the quality. And McDonald’s, for example, isn’t all that bad if you mostly stick to salads and breakfast menus

But the same logic goes. If its wrong to create and sell crack to crack addicts its also wrong to sell junk food to junk food addicted people. Less wrong sure, but that doesnt make it right. 

There are plenty of smaller restourants which sell healthy food but yes generally doing something consciously is harder. 

7 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Care to engage with any substance? Lmao, if it were disgusting, logically people wouldn’t be eating it. And yeah, those two items are the healthiest options at McDonald’s, and they’re fine to eat as long as they’re not the only things you eat LOL

Sorry but it reads pretty comically.

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Also, if it were gross, people wouldn’t eat it. 

Is your average american for example refusing to eat any unhealthy junk? NO! half their diet consists of garbage. Some people only eat garbage. 

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Also, if it were gross, people wouldn’t eat it. And McDonald’s, for example, isn’t all that bad if you mostly stick to salads and breakfast menus

Who goes to McDonalds to buy a salad!? On the menu list in germany the salad doesnt even have its own category, there are two salats in the extras category mixed in with different fries. 

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

15 minutes ago, Jannes said:

But the same logic goes. If its wrong to create and sell crack to crack addicts its also wrong to sell junk food to junk food addicted people. Less wrong sure, but that doesnt make it right. 

But these are not necessarily junk-food-addicted people. There was a hidden need that existed before fast food came onto the market - a clear need for fast, convenient sustenance. You could even argue it was a need for tasty, fast, convenient sustenance. And so, fast food chains filled that niche. On the other hand, the supposed "need" for cigarettes, crack, and similar things was completely fabricated, just BS brainwashing to make you feel like you were in the cool kid club or something lmao

[Jannes]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

But these are not necessarily junk-food-addicted people. There was a hidden need that existed before fast food came onto the market - a clear need for fast, convenient sustenance. You could even argue it was a need for tasty, fast, convenient sustenance. And so, fast food chains filled that niche. On the other hand, the supposed "need" for cigarettes, crack, and similar things was completely fabricated, just BS brainwashing to make you feel like you were in the cool kid club or something lmao

Thats a double standard. If you argue that something only manifests itself in success if there was a hidden need before then the same would go for crack, cirarettes etc. 

Yes you need food to survive and not cigarettes but you dont need it to be junk. If you say people need junk then people also need cigarettes. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

10 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Thats a double standard. If you argue that something only manifests itself in success if there was a hidden need before then the same would go for crack, cirarettes etc. 

Yes you need food to survive and not cigarettes but you dont need it to be junk. If you say people need junk then people also need cigarettes. 

Let me illustrate my point with a simple scenario, starting with a question: Have you ever been a smoker and addicted to it? If not, do you crave nicotine? Now, imagine you become very hungry after not eating anything during a whole night out. You want to go back home, but you see a McDonald's nearby. In this scenario, McDonald's is the most convenient place to get food in the area, given the way the city is structured. Would you have cravings for McDonald's? If you answer honestly, you should see the difference lol