Wealth & Consciousness Are Compatible?

[Carl-Richard]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I never said it was.

Most things are 50/50.

When in doubt, assume a thing is 50% genetic and 50% environment.

 

On 8.11.2025 at 1:28 AM, Leo Gura said:

 

On 8.11.2025 at 1:24 AM, Carl-Richard said:

 

On 7.11.2025 at 11:17 PM, Leo Gura said:

Personality is genetic. It doesn't change. What changes is your confusion about your personality.

Personality is not just MBTI, personality is more fundamental and unique.

MBTI is to personality as IQ is to intelligence.

That's not true. You think two identical twins raised up on different sides of the world would have the same personality?

Yes

 

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[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, How to be wise said:

Again I fully understand your argument and it makes sense but there's no denying that if we focus on the illusiory world we will not be aware of its state of illusion. I haven't figured out how to live fully in the world and at the same time be aware that it is pure illusion and it is not real at all.

Just literally become enlightened and spiritual practice is over, now you can live in the illusion and you don't have to cling to a spiritual ego that thinks it needs to "be aware of the illusion".

[Leo Gura]

@Carl-Richard Does not contradict what I said.

If one of the twins gets raped as a child of course that will affect personality.

What I'm saying is more nuanced than it seems. You should just assume that about anything I say.

Edited 20 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Schizophonia]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I never said it was.

Most things are 50/50.

When in doubt, assume a thing is 50% genetic and 50% environment.

Genetic is imaginary there is just karma.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Genetic is imaginary there is just karma.

By that logic your karma is as imaginary as genetics.

If you call the reason why a kangaroo is a kangaroo and not a human, its karma, you will see how silly that sounds.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

@Carl-Richard Does not contradict what I said.

If one of the twins gets raped as a child of course that will affect personality.

What I'm saying is more nuanced than it seems. You should just assume that about anything I say.

Surely then you must have had something more specific and nuanced in mind when you said "personality doesn't change"? In what way does personality not change?

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Surely then you must have had something more specific and nuanced in mind when you said "personality doesn't change"? In what way does personality not change?

Of course.

Just look at your own personality and notice how consistent it has been your entire life.

The answer is right inside you.

You've done A LOT of personal development but your personality is still fundamentally what it was. Unless maybe you got a brick to the skull.

Edited 17 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Harikrishnan]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course.

Just look at your own personality and notice how consistent it has been your entire life.

The answer is right inside you.

You've done A LOT of personal development but your personality is still fundamentally what it was. Unless maybe you got a brick to the skull.

What is personality? Isnt it collection of qualities that make you. How you are, way you think, feel and act in the world. Patterns, emotion, how you present yourself in the world. Can all this be transformed. A new way of thinking, a new way of feeling, acting and presenting. Can’t I be a new man altogether? 
Or when you say personality, what you are meaning is essence, the isness the I. Is it that you mean?

Edited 16 hours ago by Harikrishnan

[Leo Gura]

Don't forget that if the Buddha was alive today he would be a millionaire.

The reason ancient sages were poor was because there were no monetization technologies and no markets for spirituality. Unlike today. The collective wealth of mankind is 1,000,000,000,000x higher today vs the Buddha's time. So there is no excuse to be poor in the 21st century.

Edited 16 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Harikrishnan said:

Can’t I be a new man altogether?

No you can't. Your brain is not magically plastic. Changing your brain is a lot harder than anyone comprehends.

Even AIs have personalities, and changing it too much kills the AI. Every new version of ChatGPT is a new AI.

You can think of personality as the parts of your brain that don't change no matter how much you try.

No matter how much personal dev you do you will still have hair on your ass. That is genetics.

Edited 13 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Harikrishnan]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No you can't. Your brain is not magically plastic. Changing your brain is a lot harder than anyone comprehends.

Even AIs have personalities, and changing it too much kills the AI. Every new version of ChatGPT is a new AI.

You can think of personality as the parts of your brain that don't change no matter how much you try.

No matter how much personal dev you do you will still have hair on your ass.

So I shouldn’t be expecting highly of your future rewiring subconscious program.   I have been doing all these meditation, contemplation, psych last 10yrs, no wonder I wasnt able to change like I wished. 
some hard truths, but ha it made me peaceful. 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Harikrishnan said:

So I shouldn’t be expecting highly of your future rewiring subconscious program.

No. Be careful!

Nothing I said contradicts the power of that course. The course is even more powerful than you imagine. But it will not change your personality. It will not turn you into a kangaroo.

Jeff Bezos did not change his personality but he did earn $100 billion dollars. So there is plenty of room for growth for you. Don't act like you can't create amazing things just because genetics is real. Jeff Bezos does not need to become a kangaroo to be happy and neither do you.

Edited 15 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Harikrishnan]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No. Be careful!

Nothing I said contradicts the power of that course. The course is even more powerful than you imagine. But it will not change your personality. It will not turn you into a kangaroo.

Jeff Bezos did not change his personality but he did earn $100 billion dollars. So there is plenty of room for growth for you. Don't act like you can't create amazing things just because genetics is real. Jeff Bezos does not need to become a kangaroo to be happy and neither do you.

I wanted to hear this. 😂 and now make that course my friend quick, so I can make money and come to your retreat in coming years. 

[The Blind Sage]

4 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Genetic is imaginary there is just karma.

Karma = memory
Genes are a form of memory, therefore they are one aspect of karma, a subset if you will.

And sure, it's imaginary, but so is everything else including physical reality, doesn't mean you can unimagine it so it's kind of a moot point

[Jehovah increases]

Karma does not exist. Keep dreaming, humans. But if you believe in it, have fun.

Edited 11 hours ago by Jehovah increases

[SimpleGuy]

Damn. When Leo talks about something, it looks like he contradicts himself every time. Oh nuance, that nuance...

[Schizophonia]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

By that logic your karma is as imaginary as genetics.

If you call the reason why a kangaroo is a kangaroo and not a human, its karma, you will see how silly that sounds.

What I mean is that you are simply God shifting his attention into infinity and form is generated by an opposing phenomenon of inertia (ego/time).

There must be a way to purify/simplify this, but you know what I mean.

This inertia is strong yes so it's unlikely you'll suddenly have hair anytime soon, but hardness is not non-contingency.

[Schizophonia]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No you can't. Your brain is not magically plastic. Changing your brain is a lot harder than anyone comprehends.

Even AIs have personalities, and changing it too much kills the AI. Every new version of ChatGPT is a new AI.

You can think of personality as the parts of your brain that don't change no matter how much you try.

No matter how much personal dev you do you will still have hair on your ass. That is genetics.

My personality has changed drastically in just a few years and continues to change every day as I burn through my karma.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Buddha was a millionaire king. 

 

Anyway, good point. Your post sparked something in me. Thank you 

Edited 8 hours ago by Thought Art

[Eskilon]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't forget that if the Buddha was alive today he would be a millionaire.

The reason ancient sages were poor was because there were no monetization technologies and no markets for spirituality. Unlike today. The collective wealth of mankind is 1,000,000,000,000x higher today vs the Buddha's time. So there is no excuse to be poor in the 21st century.

This is just stupid to say. It goes agaisnt everything Buddha taught and his history. He didnt left his wealth and didnt go back to his wealth after awakening for nothing. Even if you threw billions on his feet he would walk away.

Your logic doesnt even work because there must be thousands of unknown yogis who are awake but they are not millionaires and dont want to be.

It seems like your capitalist bias here tbh. Just because one is exceptional or rare that doesnt mean they need to convert to millions. This is the capitalist bias.

Edited 8 hours ago by Eskilon