Spiral Dynamics Book

[Nivsch]

@Judy2 He has "The Religion of Tomorrow" but it is very long and repetitive not that comfortable to read at least for me but try it and take the extreme stages mentioned there with a grain of salt.

Edited November 27, 2025 by Nivsch

[Leo Gura]

15 hours ago, Judy2 said:

@Jannes @Leo Gura Does Ken Wilber also have a book on Spiral Dynamics or is all of his work online? 

His books go beyond Spiral Dynamics.

• Integral Psychology
• Integral Spirituality

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Integral Meta Theory 

[Daniel Balan]

23 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There is an exclusive Audible audio product called Spiral Dynamics Integral which is better than the book.

Hi Leo, do you ever plan to re-record your stage turquoise video that has been taken down by youtube?

BTW, why they took it down? Why they haven't taken down all of the other videos if you say there was a trade mark violation? And what was wrong with the turquoise video? Did you made a too much overlap between your work with stage turquoise in that video?

[Harikrishnan]

4 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Hi Leo, do you ever plan to re-record your stage turquoise video that has been taken down by youtube?

BTW, why they took it down? Why they haven't taken down all of the other videos if you say there was a trade mark violation? And what was wrong with the turquoise video? Did you made a too much overlap between your work with stage turquoise in that video?

Leo turquoise video is from his on experience and went beyond but spiral dynamic book didn’t had that. So they made it removed, coz not following what is written in book.

[Kid A]

On 26.11.2025 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Balan said:

Your dad will 100% have a crystal clear understanding of spiral dynamics if he reads my notes on every stage. I haven't done purple because it is irrelevant in today's society and frankly after 50 hours of pausing every 30 seconds and taking notes on Leo's video, I didn't have the patience to do a summary for purple given how insignificant that stage is in the 21 century. 

I disagree here. Stage Purple is the lifestyle our bodies and minds are still programmed for. Therefore, it might actually be the most important stage to understand. It’s at least the stage I’m most interested in. If we want to build lives and societies with as much fulfillment and happiness as possible, I think it’s crucial to understand this way of life. For example, how do you expect to live a happy and fulfilling life if you don’t have anything in your life that resembles a good old tribe? Maybe you have some family members and friends you see once in a while, but that’s probably not nearly enough for anybody. The socialization I’ve had in my life that truly was magical and fulfilling was when my family and I were with other families we were close friends with, with kids around my age. That was kind of like a tribe. On the other hand, normal family gatherings have never given me much, and just being with my buddies has pretty much always just given me a shallow and weak form of enjoyment.

We also get a pretty false picture of Stage Purple from our culture, the way it’s shown through Hollywood, etc. For example, a chief is something I have always associated with Stage Purple tribal life, but that’s actually something you find more in Red societies. Purple tribes usually don’t have one strong leader like that.

Conclusion: If you don’t have anything better to do, I would love it if you took notes on Purple as well!

Edited Monday at 11:02 PM by Kid A

[Kid A]

9 hours ago, Kid A said:

Conclusion:

Seems like I’ve subconsciously adopted ChatGPT’s writing style. Now I’m ashamed.

[Carl-Richard]

I've just skimmed through parts of it but I find the writing style awful and repetitive.

Hanzi Freinacht "The Listening Society" is a step up from even Wilber.

Edited yesterday at 04:48 PM by Carl-Richard

[Joseph Maynor]

I've read it multiple times.  It's an interesting book.  The chapters balance an off the cuff to carefully constructed vibe.  Every chapter is different.