What are crop circles ?

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can find videos of humans making them.

Yeah, the relatively simple ones, but I would love to see them try making them intricate enormous ones, with rope and cardboard. 

[Wilhelm44]

 

[Leo Gura]

The crops are clearly folded down over each other one row at a time. No alien landing would do that.

Crop circles are just human art projects.

UFOs are not that large. UFO craft are small. No UFO craft uses downward thrusters to stay aloft. A UFO craft does not push on the ground when it lands. This is a silly human notion. And what aliens are dumb enough to land in the middle of a cornfield when they could land in clear ground to the side?

This is like a helicopter landing in the middle of a cornfield. Dangerous and stupid.

Edited Sunday at 06:51 PM by Leo Gura

[Wilhelm44]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The crops are clearly folded down over each other one row at a time. No alien landing would do that.

Crop circles are just human art projects.

UFOs are not that large. UFO craft are small. No UFO craft uses downward thrusters to stay aloft. A UFO craft does not push on the ground when it lands. This is a silly human notion. And what aliens are dumb enough to land in the middle of a cornfield when they could land in clear ground to the side?

This is like a helicopter landing in the middle of a cornfield. Dangerous and stupid.

That's assuming that crop circles are the result of UFO landings.

Maybe it was done without actually landing, or with some other tech.

There does seem to be reports of radiation or some kind of heat involved.

 

 

 

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Joshe said:

To build the alien case, you'd have to contend with these and more: 

 

I am sure that these "serious investigations" were 'properly' done by people who were not out to discredit previous investigations right from the start.

Edited Sunday at 07:46 PM by Wilhelm44

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Maybe it was done without actually landing, or with some other tech.

The tech is called a wood board with two ropes.

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The tech is called a wood board with two ropes.

No it's not, lol

 

[Joshe]

3 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I don't think any of these so called serious investigations have been able to replicate some of the more intricate crop circles. Using cardboard to flatten the crops lol.  

That's because to replicate the more intricate ones like in your picture, you'd need to take it very seriously and invest considerable resources to implement it. You'd have to take it as seriously as the artists themselves. That would be my guess as to why the more intricate ones haven't been reproduced, if that is indeed true. 

Also, ChatGPT says cardboard is an outdated method. These days, they use GPS, lasers, pre-cut ropes for measuring distance and laying the crop down, night-vision, drones, etc. Here's how it's done: 

[Joshe]

3 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Yeah, the relatively simple ones, but I would love to see them try making them intricate enormous ones, with rope and cardboard. 

What are the odds that a civilization advanced enough to cross galaxies would coincidentally choose the same medium (fields) and visual language (geometric circles) humans already use for art and pranks?

Lol. Think about it bro!

The only move I see from here is: "The aliens created them first and humans copied them." 🤦‍♂️

Edited Sunday at 09:43 PM by Joshe

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Some of these crop circles that have been researched suggest that certain effects seen in crop formations, like bent or "blown-out" stalks, are consistent with those caused by microwave radiation. I believe there is some discourse around this floating about. I know many have also questioned the studies that went into them.

Essentially, some of the crops that create the patterns were not shown to be cut, but rather blown out and bent over at a uniform height. Almost like they were created with a huge magnetron like that found in a microwave. Initially, these effects were thought to have been caused by radiation, but the process was replicated with a magnetron.

I have no links to any of this, its out there if you are curious. Just some stuff I have come across.

 

[Mayonnaise]

@Leo Gura 

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

And what aliens are dumb enough to land in the middle of a cornfield when they could land in clear ground to the side?

i literally spit out my drink lol

[Extreme Z7]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

And what aliens are dumb enough to land in the middle of a cornfield when they could land in clear ground to the side?

This is like a helicopter landing in the middle of a cornfield. Dangerous and stupid.

Uhm...to better hide the craft? Why would you compare it to a helicopter landing when you just said there's no downward thrust.

Not disputing that most crop circles are fake, by the way. I've seen the documentaries about people creating crop circles on their own using computer graphics, a piece of wood, and total lack of anything better to do.

[Wilhelm44]

@Joshe  I would really like to see these so called serious investigations, that somehow discredited all the other investigations that showed that some form of heat may have been involved etc. (For example, how long after the initial investigation did they wander along onto the site). When people are doing investigations with clear bias and purpose to discredit, they should actually be double checked themselves. Chances are if they found something that clashed with their worldview, they probably suppressed it.

 Also, drones would not have been available to check for symmetry when making most of the earlier ones.

ps, even if a lot of crop circles are human made, this is not proof that they all are.

And we also cant just assume that all testimony is fake. Just like we cant ignore all testimony when it comes to UFO's etc. Some witnesses are more credible than others.

Mainstream science simply wont do proper research on this, it's just not in their best interests, too woohoo for them. 

I would be more sceptical of a mainstream investigation than an independent one, when it comes to supernatural topics.

Which mainstream scientist will actually risk his career by standing up and saying theres something strange about some of these crop circles ? It's just not gonna happen.

You are also assuming that all these geometries are somehow a human invention, when there could be some universal significance also. We might have more in common with some alien species than you think.

Most people have a bias against the supernatural, because it tends to defy modern logic. No amount of evidence will convince them.

Consciousness/Existence is the most magical/extraordinary thing going. So the onus for proof should actually be on those trying to discredit the supernatural, not the other way around. We got it all backwards on this planet. 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[emil1234]

but why does this ONLY happen on crops? why are they never ever seen in woods, mud, dirt, grass, snow, ice?

[Basman]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

UFOs are not that large. UFO craft are small. No UFO craft uses downward thrusters to stay aloft. A UFO craft does not push on the ground when it lands.

How do you know that?

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Basman said:

How do you know that?

Dude, we have reports from people who work on UFO craft.

Don't act like this doesn't exist.

The US government owns over 10 UFO craft. And we know the size of the aliens.

Edited 15 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Andrey]

The Age of Disclosure documentary is coming out on 21.11.2025 on amazon prime

[Ramasta9]

Light-codes, think of them as vibrational patterns that emit a certain frequency of harmonic resonance, which generate activation codons within DNA and the environment. Upgrades / Support, so to speak. Creation is one big cosmic play, but its so intelligent it appears foolish and child's play.

[Wilhelm44]

38 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Light-codes, think of them as vibrational patterns that emit a certain frequency of harmonic resonance, which generate activation codons within DNA and the environment. Upgrades / Support, so to speak. Creation is one big cosmic play, but its so intelligent it appears foolish and child's play.

I'd like to actually visit one of these sites one day to feel what it feels like. Have you been ?

[Joshe]

12 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

When people are doing investigations with clear bias and purpose to discredit, they should actually be double checked themselves.

But at that point, you would simply say the double-checkers are in on the discrediting scheme, because  that's how protecting belief works. 

What makes you assume those who discredited it have a "clear bias" and lack integrity? Most scientists would love to discover some actual paranormal activity. Their entire careers run on discovery. Nothing would make them more famous than proving something paranormal. 

12 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

 Also, drones would not have been available to check for symmetry when making most of the earlier ones.

Drones are not necessary, just a modern quality assurance tool. 

12 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

ps, even if a lot of crop circles are human made, this is not proof that they all are.

True, but can you admit it seems silly that aliens would reproduce human prank art? 

12 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

And we also cant just assume that all testimony is fake. Just like we cant ignore all testimony when it comes to UFO's etc. Some witnesses are more credible than others.

There is a litany of problems with human testimony. Credibility is just one problem. If you understood the whole litany, you could not apply significant weight to testimonial evidence alone, even when there's corroborating testimony. Humans convinced they witnessed paranormal activity isn't enough, even from credentialed sources. Human perception is not a good instrument for measuring truth. This is why courts don't allow hearsay and impose statues of limitation, among other things. Actual physical or logical proof should be the bar.

13 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Mainstream science simply wont do proper research on this, it's just not in their best interests, too woohoo for them. 

Which scientist would devote several months and considerable resources to debunking what is easily debunked from their armchair? I'm guessing not many. Maybe they aren't so much afraid of looking woo-woo as they are afraid of the reputational cost of spending considerable resources debunking something that could be debunked in an afternoon. 

13 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You are also assuming that all these geometries are somehow a human invention, when there could be some universal significance also. We might have more in common with some alien species than you think.

No I'm not, but I am assuming drawing them on the medium of a crop field is a human invention. Because humans drawing circles in fields has been observed and their modern-day techniques have been documented. 

13 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Most people have a bias against the supernatural, because it tends to defy modern logic. No amount of evidence will convince them.

Crop circles in no way defy modern logic - you just think they do because you had no good explanation for how they are constructed. And upon finding out, if you were epistemically serious, you would have allowed the weight of that knowledge to take it's natural place in the chain of reason. 

13 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Consciousness/Existence is the most magical/extraordinary thing going.

Exactly. Which is why we don't need to fabricate mystery.