Which psychedelic produces the biggest mindfuck

[bobbyward]

Which psychedelic produces the biggest mindfuck, is the most scary, with intense visuals ? 

[Leo Gura]

It depends on your genetics.

[bobbyward]

I have tried a few different ones, for me dmt. I am interested in trying salvia 

Edited October 13 by bobbyward

[Oppositionless]

I've only done mushrooms lsd dmt and 5 meo dmt (and ketamine and dxm if you count those)

 

in terms of mindfuck 

 

mushrooms  > dmt > dxm > ketamine > lsd > 4 ho met > 5 meo dmt 

I've done 4 ho met 4 times , 5 meo once and the rest over a dozen times 

I guess the 5 meo mind fuck is realizing you imagined the entire universe, but nm dmt already did that and paired it with the most absurd alien geometry , and on psilocybin my consciousness merges with demonic alien beings 

I don't know where to place weed because I lived in that low level psychosis headspace for several years .

Edited October 14 by Oppositionless

[theoneandnone]

21 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

I've only done mushrooms lsd dmt and 5 meo dmt (and ketamine and dxm if you count those)

 

in terms of mindfuck 

 

mushrooms  > dmt > dxm > ketamine > lsd > 4 ho met > 5 meo dmt 

I've done 4 ho met 4 times , 5 meo once and the rest over a dozen times 

I guess the 5 meo mind fuck is realizing you imagined the entire universe, but nm dmt already did that and paired it with the most absurd alien geometry , and on psilocybin my consciousness merges with demonic alien beings 

I don't know where to place weed because I lived in that low level psychosis headspace for several years .

5 meo dmt imagined the entire universe what?

[Oppositionless]

20 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

5 meo dmt imagined the entire universe what?

The 5 meo trip took me to God , the one , everything and every one merged into a singularity and I was generating it by being conscious of it and I knew if I stopped being conscious of it it would cease to exist.

 

Cannabis and NN dmt showed me the same thing but there was still a witness. 
 

I understand you may not want to hear this as you've been struggling with solipsism, so I want to reassure you that these are just insights arising with a certain experience and ultimately none of this matters , life is meant to be lived .

Edited October 14 by Oppositionless

[vibv]

I don't get visuals on DMT at all now. Just more consciousness.

Maybe I should try upping the dose. It's fascinating how psychedelics work.

[Peo]

Mushrooms is fun and insanity at the same time. Although i repect the drug so i used low dose and too scare to take more. It can show you love and insanity. 

Edited Tuesday at 01:49 PM by Peo
Grammar mistakes

[bobbyward]

@Leo Gura which one of the meo's would you say typically produces the most visuals ? 

[Rigel]

The one you take a higher dose of.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, bobbyward said:

@Leo Gura which one of the meo's would you say typically produces the most visuals ? 

None of them do much.

5-MeO-MALT or 5-MeO-MIPT are the most visual.

MALT has neon magenta visuals/vibes.

MIPT has more body feel and emotions.

Edited Thursday at 11:34 PM by Leo Gura

[theoneandnone]

On 10/13/2025 at 9:01 PM, Oppositionless said:

The 5 meo trip took me to God , the one , everything and every one merged into a singularity and I was generating it by being conscious of it and I knew if I stopped being conscious of it it would cease to exist.

 

Cannabis and NN dmt showed me the same thing but there was still a witness. 
 

I understand you may not want to hear this as you've been struggling with solipsism, so I want to reassure you that these are just insights arising with a certain experience and ultimately none of this matters , life is meant to be lived .

Haha thanks man (me) or whatever you are thanks for the response!

[Harikrishnan]

Where do you guys get psych these days, most of dark web market seems to have exit scammed.  

[Ero]

LSD for me by far.

[Jehovah increases]

Psilocybin at very high doses can really fck with your mind, and put you in a state of insanity, but not always. The trick is to just go with it until it becomes the norm. Of course, you also have datura and Silvia, but there are a lot of factors that come into it as well.

Edited Saturday at 06:16 AM by Jehovah increases

[vibv]

On 14.10.2025 at 3:48 PM, Peo said:

Mushrooms is fun and insanity at the same time. Although i repect the drug so i used low dose and too scare to take more. It can show you love and insanity. 

Which makes them perfectly suited for what I do (A Musical emotional journey through the darkest valleys of the human mind unto the highest Peaks Of Love via Storytelling).

[Aaron p]

Salvia would fuck your shit up quick time

[Oppositionless]

On 10/16/2025 at 10:24 PM, Harikrishnan said:

Where do you guys get psych these days, most of dark web market seems to have exit scammed.  

I wish I could tell you. It depends heavily on where you live... in the US and Canada it's stupid easy for a wide variety of substances .

Ive never ordered on the dark net. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Oppositionless

[Harikrishnan]

7 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

I wish I could tell you. It depends heavily on where you live... in the US and Canada it's stupid easy for a wide variety of substances .

Ive never ordered on the dark net. 

perks of being in first world country.