Which psychedelic produces the biggest mindfuck

[bobbyward]

Which psychedelic produces the biggest mindfuck, is the most scary, with intense visuals ? 

[Leo Gura]

It depends on your genetics.

[bobbyward]

I have tried a few different ones, for me dmt. I am interested in trying salvia 

Edited 10 hours ago by bobbyward

[Oppositionless]

I've only done mushrooms lsd dmt and 5 meo dmt (and ketamine and dxm if you count those)

 

in terms of mindfuck 

 

mushrooms  > dmt > dxm > ketamine > lsd > 4 ho met > 5 meo dmt 

I've done 4 ho met 4 times , 5 meo once and the rest over a dozen times 

I guess the 5 meo mind fuck is realizing you imagined the entire universe, but nm dmt already did that and paired it with the most absurd alien geometry , and on psilocybin my consciousness merges with demonic alien beings 

I don't know where to place weed because I lived in that low level psychosis headspace for several years .

Edited 8 hours ago by Oppositionless

[theoneandnone]

21 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

I've only done mushrooms lsd dmt and 5 meo dmt (and ketamine and dxm if you count those)

 

in terms of mindfuck 

 

mushrooms  > dmt > dxm > ketamine > lsd > 4 ho met > 5 meo dmt 

I've done 4 ho met 4 times , 5 meo once and the rest over a dozen times 

I guess the 5 meo mind fuck is realizing you imagined the entire universe, but nm dmt already did that and paired it with the most absurd alien geometry , and on psilocybin my consciousness merges with demonic alien beings 

I don't know where to place weed because I lived in that low level psychosis headspace for several years .

5 meo dmt imagined the entire universe what?

[Oppositionless]

20 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

5 meo dmt imagined the entire universe what?

The 5 meo trip took me to God , the one , everything and every one merged into a singularity and I was generating it by being conscious of it and I knew if I stopped being conscious of it it would cease to exist.

 

Cannabis and NN dmt showed me the same thing but there was still a witness. 
 

I understand you may not want to hear this as you've been struggling with solipsism, so I want to reassure you that these are just insights arising with a certain experience and ultimately none of this matters , life is meant to be lived .

Edited 7 hours ago by Oppositionless

[vibv]

I don't get visuals on DMT at all now. Just more consciousness.

Maybe I should try upping the dose. It's fascinating how psychedelics work.