Is it posible to reach 5-MeO states by meditating?

[Jowblob]

1 hour ago, Clarence said:

I use my own discernment. It's pretty clear that he is not 17 000 years old.

See this is why you're stuck even though you don't know if he's truely 17000 year old or not your ego is already denying it , there are timelines/worlds different from ours. The same that each one of us has different consciousness level. Perhaps he's not even human and he sees himself in an astral body, just enjoying the earthly build/world for example... Ever thought of that? That's why these kind of videos are not coming to your consciousness it is because you didnt evolve far enough yet.

[Schizophonia]

@Jowblob Do you have siddhis ?

[Jowblob]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

@Jowblob Do you have siddhis ?

I have, but just like @Davino i can't speak about it much. you develop them ones you reach a new state of mind/baseline consciousness

Edited Monday at 01:28 PM by Jowblob

[Davino]

15 hours ago, TheGod said:

I'm talking about the God realization what I reach on 5MeO-DMT when I realize I'm the only conscious being and everything is me of course it includes infinity. 

Yes, it's possible but unlikely.

15 hours ago, TheGod said:

Please explain what are these states what they have in common and the differences between them 

On Jhanas:

 

On Equanimity:

Good meditation advice:

 

The full path of vipassana and meditation in one video:

 

 

[Davino]

4 hours ago, Jowblob said:

I have, but just like @Davino i can't speak about it much. 

I can speak about it but see no value in doing so. But if anyone in the path acquires siddhis I agree is a good sign, but I don't idolize them either.

[Leo Gura]

No way, no how. Not in a million years. Not in the same ballpark. Not on the same planet. Not even in the same universe.

However, there is a crucial caveat: most people's trips are so weak that meditation could easily match that level of weakness. But if we're talking about trips like mine. No way. No meditator will reach those states of consciousness.

The issue is that people have weak trips and then assume that's what I'm talking about and then act shocked that I deny their meditation. The issue is that you don't know the states I'm talking about and you probably never will. They are completely beyond human imagination or experience. They cannot even be stored in human memory. The consciousness is so advanced that a human mind cannot even remember it.

Edited Monday at 09:18 PM by Leo Gura

[Yali]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Not even in the same universe.

Then what’s the point of dedicating oneself to meditation purely for the sake of understanding? Maybe meditation shouldn’t even be practiced for that reason at all, but rather for other purposes—like its mental health benefits. @Leo Gura

[TheGod]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 The issue is that you don't know the states I'm talking about and you probably never will.

How can you be so sure about it ? Of course, I’m very positive 95% of the people will never reach anything close to what I reach and this forum is a great prove of it where 95% have no idea what they are taking about and it pises me off because these people have thousands of posts here, remaining shockingly stupid obviously delusional and ideological.

But I reached a few times states where I transcended you, so you dear Leo have never had any trips. I imagined all of them. 

[amberlight]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No way, no how. Not in a million years. Not in the same ballpark. Not on the same planet. Not even in the same universe.

However, there is a crucial caveat: most people's trips are so weak that meditation could easily match that level of weakness. But if we're talking about trips like mine. No way. No meditator will reach those states of consciousness.

The issue is that people have weak trips and then assume that's what I'm talking about and then act shocked that I deny their meditation. The issue is that you don't know the states I'm talking about and you probably never will. They are completely beyond human imagination or experience. They cannot even be stored in human memory. The consciousness is so advanced that a human mind cannot even remember it.

And why do people have weak trips? 
Is it simply a lack of intention and focus during the trip?
How do you create potent trips?

[Jehovah increases]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

l They are completely beyond human imagination or experience. They cannot even be stored in human memory. The consciousness is so advanced that a human mind cannot even remember it.

This is so true it's that simple.

[Jowblob]

17 hours ago, Davino said:

I can speak about it but see no value in doing so. But if anyone in the path acquires siddhis I agree is a good sign, but I don't idolize them either.

How to achieve or develop new siddhis? And what siddhis do you have?

[Leo Gura]

On 9/29/2025 at 2:24 PM, Yali said:

Then what’s the point of dedicating oneself to meditation purely for the sake of understanding? Maybe meditation shouldn’t even be practiced for that reason at all, but rather for other purposes—like its mental health benefits. @Leo Gura

There is a point because psychdelic states don't last. Meditation can raise your baseline state. But just because meditation raises baseline does not mean it can give you those insane peaks. The insane peaks are necessary to deeply understand God. Raising baseline is good for everyday life.

20 hours ago, TheGod said:

How can you be so sure about it ? Of course, I’m very positive 95% of the people will never reach anything close to what I reach

But I reached a few times states where I transcended you, so you dear Leo have never had any trips. I imagined all of them. 

Well, I am not saying it's literally impossible. People with rare genetics can achieve amazing states just doing nothing. But this is very rare and not to be relied upon.

From my POV, I have experienced states of consciousness which no spiritual teacher who I've ever read about has spoken about. So that's why I say what I say. Does that mean no one has done it? No. It just means it's insanely rare and you will not achieve it using typical means.

16 hours ago, amberlight said:

And why do people have weak trips? 

Genetics.

Or just low dose

Edited Tuesday at 11:55 PM by Leo Gura

[TheGod]

54 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Raising baseline is good for everyday life.

Semen retention raises baseline of consciousness in my experience. I've been practicing it for 5 years. 

Have you tried it Leo ? 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, TheGod said:

Semen retention raises baseline of consciousness in my experience. I've been practicing it for 5 years. 

Have you tried it Leo ? 

I don't like it. It makes me too horny. Bad way to live. I got shit to do, I can't be horny all the time.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Same. That’s what I don’t like exactly about multi orgasm teaching of Mantak Chia. But, it at least helps last longer in bed. 

[TheGod]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't like it. It makes me too horny. Bad way to live. I got shit to do, I can't be horny all the time.

It was bad for me in the beginning as well but then it makes you very aware. 

What was the longest you abstained? 

 

[Jowblob]

2 hours ago, TheGod said:

Semen retention raises baseline of consciousness in my experience. I've been practicing it for 5 years. 

Have you tried it Leo ? 

What benefits/siddhis did you have for holding and how long did you hold?

Edited Wednesday at 03:44 AM by Jowblob

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, TheGod said:

It was bad for me in the beginning as well but then it makes you very aware. 

What was the longest you abstained? 

 

It's just not something I've been interested in. I know I will be horny like a dog and I don't want to live like that.

[Jowblob]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's just not something I've been interested in. I know I will be horny like a dog and I don't want to live like that.

I wanted to tell you what sperm becomes at a next stage of consciousness/mind and how to achieve it but i realized that god or higher self must have a reason to keep you that way. Personally i think he uses you as fully human self to keep doing what you do.

Edited Wednesday at 04:22 AM by Jowblob

[LoneWonderer]

1 hour ago, Jowblob said:

I wanted to tell you what sperm becomes at a next stage of consciousness/mind and how to achieve it but i realized that god or higher self must have a reason to keep you that way. Personally i think he uses you as fully human self to keep doing what you do.

Bro, projection 101 here