Cathy92506

Do You Believe A Person Who Is Awakening Is Actually...

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a person who is just really good at processing their emotions?
For example, they go throughout the day, and if they identify with thoughts and/or emotions, they write them down, process them, and figure out why they are attached to them. And that helps to let it go.
They do this with all those identifying and attaching thoughts and emotions.
Soon, this person becomes a natural at it.
They go throughout their whole day not identifying with any of them, and if they do, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

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The observer is observed.

Then the witness or person or ego disseappears.

 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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It's about how much of you is an expression of love and wisdom. How much of you is the expression of the I AM. And how much of you is an expression of ego or fear. 

In a sense you could say there are no enlightened people, there are only expressions of enlightenment and expressions of ignorance at play. 

Edited by Salvijus

Freedom is love under all conditions. 

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A good sign of an awakened person is he is definitely free from attachment and toxic emotions. 

Like for example someday you feel that you have high energy or strong Aura and people feel uncomfortable In your presence yet you don't bully them.

An unaware person uses his High energy to annoy others. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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No it has nothing to do with that. Drug addicts on the street are trying to awaken. An autistic screaming person is more awaken then a a therapist.

Edited by Hojo

Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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Emotions are good since they tell you when ego is running the show, It's my cue to choose again. My companion to awakening. Whether for example I feel mercy or vengeance, I am perpetuating illusions.  

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6 hours ago, Cathy92506 said:

a person who is just really good at processing their emotions?
For example, they go throughout the day, and if they identify with thoughts and/or emotions, they write them down, process them, and figure out why they are attached to them. And that helps to let it go.
They do this with all those identifying and attaching thoughts and emotions.
Soon, this person becomes a natural at it.
They go throughout their whole day not identifying with any of them, and if they do, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Great point and definitely a part of the many facets of awakening! It fair to say that an awakened person is aware of their emotions and isn't run by them. There's infinitely more to awakening also. 

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2 hours ago, enchanted said:

Great point and definitely a part of the many facets of awakening! It fair to say that an awakened person is aware of their emotions and isn't run by them. There's infinitely more to awakening also. 

Such as?

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@Cathy92506 If you mean to say that Awakening is nothing more than skill at handling emotions, then the answer is definitely NO.

Technically, Awakening has nothing to do with emotions. However, if you seriously pursue Awakening then emotional skillfullness will come as a byproduct of much consciousness work.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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In a nutshell, 'Someone who is awakening', without being prescriptive through definition, is often one who has firstly, on some level, experientially realised that the essential nature of themselves is not their thoughts, but rather 'that' which is aware of their thoughts, and 'that' which is ever-present 'in' all experience (though really, it's not 'in', but rather 'as' all experience, though this may not be realised yet at this stage).

'Someone who is awakening' is then one who has the necessary determination & curiosity to experientially figure out & understand what is really & genuinely meant by 'Truth'

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10 hours ago, Cathy92506 said:

a person who is just really good at processing their emotions?
For example, they go throughout the day, and if they identify with thoughts and/or emotions, they write them down, process them, and figure out why they are attached to them. And that helps to let it go.
They do this with all those identifying and attaching thoughts and emotions.
Soon, this person becomes a natural at it.
They go throughout their whole day not identifying with any of them, and if they do, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

What you are describing is someone who heard about meditation and starts meditating from a perspective of self help books or they are fallowing somebody :) 

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11 hours ago, Cathy92506 said:

a person who is just really good at processing their emotions?
For example, they go throughout the day, and if they identify with thoughts and/or emotions, they write them down, process them, and figure out why they are attached to them. And that helps to let it go.
They do this with all those identifying and attaching thoughts and emotions.
Soon, this person becomes a natural at it.
They go throughout their whole day not identifying with any of them, and if they do, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

That's personal development. And non-identification pertains to the beginnings of emotional work. The final stages look less like denying, non-identifying, depersonalising, disowning and more like self-love, self-acceptance and total self-embracement.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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On 8/28/2025 at 0:44 PM, Davino said:

That's personal development. And non-identification pertains to the beginnings of emotional work. The final stages look less like denying, non-identifying, depersonalising, disowning and more like self-love, self-acceptance and total self-embracement.

What does "self-love and acceptance" look like? Someone who does healthy habits, such as eating healthy and exercising? Practicing daily gratitude? And what does "total self-embracent" look like? Are you talking about someone who looks self-confident?

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Awakening is whatever you think it is.

Sounds like if you managed your emotions better, you’d have awakenings but there is no ‘awakening’ in general or only one awakening.

You can awaken to ‘oneness,’ God, Love, etc. And if those are goals, go right ahead.

Awakening needs direction or indirection— but consciously.

Your post has already set you up for this.

Spend any amount of time working on your emotions and I’ll bet my life savings you get micro-awakenings within a few hours and larger ones throughout time, with consistency— emotional awakenings, specifically.

Edited by yetineti

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7 minutes ago, Cathy92506 said:

What does "self-love and acceptance" look like? 

There's a video of Leo talking extensively on this:

 

8 minutes ago, Cathy92506 said:

Someone who does healthy habits, such as eating healthy and exercising? Practicing daily gratitude? 

Is eating fast food everyday an act of love to yourself and body? Is sitting in the coach like a potato closed from sunlight in a sedentary fashion, a loving advice you'd give to anyone? Is being ungrateful towards life a loving attitude?

When you find yourself in confusion you can try to make it the opposite, to see the contrast. Or ask yourself what advice would you give to the person you most selflessly love.

14 minutes ago, Cathy92506 said:

And what does "total self-embracent" look like? Are you talking about someone who looks self-confident?

It looks like a process of wholeness or like Carl Jung used to say, the process of individuation, to become a total human being. To integrate the shadow and everything we dislike and repress of ourselves into our consciousness and love it. Some people say, it feels like ordering your room, it's not broken, it's just out of place, once it's balanced all your psyche finds it's gorgeous equilibrium and dance.

Self-confidence may be a by-product of this process, but if you care about that, you might look into more specific personal development resources like "Six Pillars of Self-Esteem" by Nathaniel Branden.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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6 minutes ago, yetineti said:

Awakening is whatever you think it is.

O.o?


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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On 8/28/2025 at 2:50 PM, Cathy92506 said:

Such as?

For example realizing illusions the ego constructs, like the illusion of a family, or the illusion of being part of a nation. Imagine if you realize you're constructing your family, then you immediately see past any kind of drama, jealousy, envy, because you identify less with it. And I am explaining just the first stages of spiritual work, which is where I am currently at. But as you may start to see, it goes in the direction of oneness.

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For me, awakening is a radical transformation.

Emotional awareness and processing is one of the things that can lead to it.

But as I realized, the genuine will to surrender to the transformation of the self is the way I can best describe as the major thing that triggers the awakening, at least from my experience.

It is not easy to surrender to radical transformation, to shed the old skin, old identity, behavior, patterns, beliefs, perceptions, like a snake shedding its skin.

It requires courage, overcoming the fear of the unknown and allow everything from the old self that needs to die, to die. Even if we are very attached to it.

There is backlash from the ego. The skin becomes sticky, tight, it resists the sedding. The transformation.
 

Like an old person who wants to live a little more at the expense of the newborn.  

This may be a very difficult and painful process, and at the same time very liberating, because the old skin can be very suffocating. Limiting, like spiritual prison. 

And once done, we reborn. With new skin. Fresh like a newborn. Looking at the world with new and fresh eyes.


Alienated from our old identity, unidentified with the past, strangers to it. Until the next transformation.


Take hold of your own life. See that the whole existence is celebrating.

These trees are not serious, these birds are not serious.

The rivers and the oceans are wild, and everywhere there is fun, everywhere there is joy and delight. Watch existence, listen to the existence and become part of it. -Osho

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